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Sparx

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Posted on 08-18-06 03:56 PM Link | Quote
Originally posted by icegoom
Originally posted by pikaguy900
If I remember correctly, those Electrokoopas from Super Mario Sunshine could only be defeated by sprying them with water after they throw their shells. Then, when the shells come back, they get electrocuted and they're defeated.


That's right, I was just trying to figure out how it would work without F.L.U.D.D.

Originally posted by mikeyk
if people make graphics for any of their requests... like this electro koopa, it would provide me with a lot more motivation to make it. i'd love to see some of the creativity that you guys have.


OK, here's some somewhat rushed concept art from me:



I tried to make it look like the one from Mario Sunshine, only standing on two legs like the other Koopas from SMW. The tuft of hair can easily go if it's too much work to code an extra row of tiles on top of the otherwise 16 x 16 shelless Koopa.

And Sparx, if you had a different idea, don't let me stop you from showing it.


Well, my idea was pretty much that, just with not as good graphics. So, it would probably work for me, too.
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Posted on 08-18-06 05:29 PM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Sparx
Originally posted by pikaguy900
If I remember correctly, those Electrokoopas from Super Mario Sunshine could only be defeated by sprying them with water after they throw their shells. Then, when the shells come back, they get electrocuted and they're defeated. Maybe if this custom sprite was made, it could instantly be destroyed if it walked into water. Maybe that could be the only way to beat them- make them fall in the water. Maybe then, the water would be full of electricity, making you take damage if you fall in it, but if any enemy falls in it besides Thwomps, Thwimps, Dry Bones, Bony Beetles, Fishbones, and those other non-living enemies in castles besides Mecha-Koopas would instantly be destroyed. That's probably a long shot though, but funny nonetheless.



Yeah, but they could also be killed by jumping on them when their shells were off
So, basically, tosses shell at mario to a certain distance, then returns. You could use a graphics change for the shell (electricity running around it), it could be invincible with a shell on, but vulnerable when it's off. It should kill water based enemies like fish only (besides Mario). Instantly dies in water (custom block water), and as an extra bonus, invulnerable to fire

Oh yeah, now I remember. They could be destroyed like that, but it was dangerous, since defeating them like that allowed their shells to keep going, if I remember correctly. If the Electrokoopa was made, mabye it could be made to have it throw a sprite (its shell), which comes back to the koopa like a boomerang, but if the Electrokoopa is destroyed by any way other than making it fall in water, the shell would keep following you, or whatever you want.
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Posted on 08-19-06 11:43 AM Link | Quote
Big Problem:
Sometimes original sprites go crazy in a level with custom sprites. They're moving left without animations and their tiles are flipped. After a while they start to act normal. It happened with red and blue koopas, mega moles, spineys and bom-ombs. Here's a gif:



It's not caused by the blocks, because it happens even on normal cement blocks! Has anyone the same problem?


(edited by ghettoyouth on 08-19-06 10:44 AM)
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Posted on 08-19-06 12:13 PM Link | Quote
ghetto, i've figured out the issue. i was using a sprite table that doesn't get reset after the sprite dies. i'll have to tweak a bunch of my custom sprites, but it will be fixed for the next release.
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Posted on 08-19-06 12:36 PM Link | Quote
Ok good to hear, thank you!


(edited by ghettoyouth on 08-19-06 11:36 AM)
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Posted on 08-19-06 05:20 PM Link | Quote
I'm very interested in Sprite Tool, and I have a few questions:

1: I tried using the Poison Mushroom in my hack, but it gave me a special Coin that comes from the 'Coin Game Cloud' sprite. I don't recall having that sprite in the 2 GFX files I was using for sprites. To put this simpler, what tile number does the Poison Mushroom use? Also, on a side note, is there a way I can make a "custom" block that spawns a Poison Mushroom when hit? I know you can change what comes out of certain blocks already in a hack, but is there a way to make another block using a Hex Editor? (And, also on the subject of Hex Editors, is it possible to change a Block's description using a Hex Editor?)
2: Do you have any future plans for Sprite Tool? I like this program a lot, and I'd like to know what to look forward to.
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Posted on 08-19-06 05:20 PM Link | Quote
Oh... That would explain what was happening. I thought I just screwed something up while I was working on my hack. The only thing that happened close to this to me was (before Spritetool) that the Koopa tiles went crazy. First, they wouldn't animate, then they just got their tiles flipped (upside-down Koopas) no matter how many times I re-did the graphics. (No custom blocks or sprites.)
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Posted on 08-19-06 05:27 PM Link | Quote
pikaguy: if for example your ROM was named mario.smc, edit (or create) with notepad the mario.DSC file that's in the same folder as your ROM. Then check the LM help file for info on how to change the block descriptions with said file.

replace mario.smc and mario.dsc with the name of your ROM.
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Posted on 08-19-06 05:29 PM Link | Quote
Oh yeah, I forgot about that DSC file. Until I found the special pipes that FuSoYa used in DW:TLC (To anyone who thinks I'm stealing them: They're public now. They're way deep in this forum, and they're in the Custom Block database in SMW Central.), I had no idea what the DSC file did. Thanks!

Edit: I can't seem to find an entry about it in the LM help file. Also, upon opening my hack's DSC file, I noly got a list of the Custom Blocks inserted into my hack. I'd like to change the descriptions of the normal blocks (the ones already included in a SMW ROM from the start), without making my own custom block and changing that. Speaking of which, what's the offset of Block 128 (Direct Map16 Access) in a Hex Editor? I'd like to change that, since Block 127 is the exact same thing.


(edited by pikaguy900 on 08-19-06 04:58 PM)
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Posted on 08-19-06 08:02 PM Link | Quote
Here are some of my edits of smb3 sledge bro.(except for the first)
Normal Sledge Bro. Edit is the 2nd one
Cameo Sledge Bro. Edit is Klump(SMB3 Styled!)
Special Sledge Bro. Edit is Coconut Kong(can be used in Jungle Levels)
Other Sledge Bro. Edit is Sledge Chuck(I gave him Icegoom's Chuck's Head with a little edits.
I probably need to work on Klump a little more.

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Posted on 08-20-06 12:21 AM Link | Quote
How about releasing an ExGFX file? Sledge bros. have already been done, so there's no need to make more of them. Just different graphics.
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Posted on 08-20-06 06:45 PM Link | Quote
It's time for the weekend update... here are the changes:
+ Ghettoyouth mentioned that regular sprites were sometimes acting funky. This should be fixed now. I edited several of my sprites to no longer store to $15AC,x
+ At Ice Man's request, I've added versions of all the piranha plants that are compatible with the HDMA toolkit
+ New sprite: Power Thwomp. The same as the regular Thwomp, but stuns Mario if he is on the ground.
+ New sprite: Electricity (requested by Knight of Time). This sprite bounces back and forth between two surfaces. The first extra bit determines if it moves horizontally or vertically. There's a normal version and one that hurts Mario even if he's spin jumping.
+ New sprite: Ground Pound Koopa (requested by Watermelon).

This guy runs towards Mario and pounds the ground every so often. Mario becomes stunned if he is on the ground. Graphics are included for this sprite in the tilemaps subdirectory.


(edited by mikeyk on 08-20-06 05:47 PM)
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Posted on 08-20-06 07:01 PM Link | Quote
Oh, thank you very much !


(edited by Watermelon on 08-20-06 06:03 PM)
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Posted on 08-20-06 07:25 PM Link | Quote
My Sledge Bros. edits are just different graphics you can use in different environments.
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Posted on 08-22-06 01:00 PM Link | Quote
yay I made a custom generator
clicky
This sprite will generate lightning and thunder. Well, it just jumps to the lightning routine in SMW but it's still nice and you can turn it off with sprite D9


(edited by ghettoyouth on 08-22-06 12:01 PM)
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Posted on 08-22-06 10:58 PM Link | Quote
Originally posted by mikeyk
if people make graphics for any of their requests... like this electro koopa, it would provide me with a lot more motivation to make it. i'd love to see some of the creativity that you guys have.

Hmmmmm... I put together some custom chain chomp GFX.
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This is on the top of my most wanted sprites list. It would be the COOLEST if you put it together.
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Posted on 08-22-06 11:05 PM Link | Quote
I recently thought of this, and here's the idea:
I call it an "Ice Koopa". What it does is shoots ice at you, and if the ice touches you, you get frozen. You could be stuck in the position you were in, and there could be custom graphics over Mario that looks like a big chunk of ice, making it look like he's actually frozen in the ice. At this time, you cannot move, and technically, you're taking damage. If you get hit, a "counter" will increase by 1, and it starts at 1. You take the appropriate amount of damage for each number. (In other words, if the number is 1, you take damage once. If you're not Small Mario, and the counter is 2, you lose a life, since you take damage twice, meaning you take damage as Big/Fire/Cape Mario, then you take damage again as Small Mario, though it happens all at once, meaning once you're free, you lose a life.) However, after a while, you escape the ice, and the damage is dealt. However, you can force the ice to break sooner if you keep trying to move or jump. Just press any button to try to get free. It's fun, and it's great for cold areas! The palette would be once that's Light Blue, like Normal Palette 4.

Edit: Oh yeah, it also looks the same as a Normal Koopa, only different tile locations, so you can have them look different. Plus, if you stomp on it to get it out of its shell, it can still fire ice at you. If you use your Cape's Spin ability, you can bat the ice back at the Koopa, which makes it frozen. At that point, it starts to "melt". (It acts like the Throw Block sprite, only with different tiles, and with Graphics like the Ice Blocks in SMB3.) You can pick it up and throw it too.


(edited by pikaguy900 on 08-22-06 10:09 PM)
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Posted on 08-22-06 11:22 PM Link | Quote
Originally posted by pikaguy900
I recently thought of this, and here's the idea:
I call it an "Ice Koopa". What it does is shoots ice at you, and if the ice touches you, you get frozen. You could be stuck in the position you were in, and there could be custom graphics over Mario that looks like a big chunk of ice, making it look like he's actually frozen in the ice. At this time, you cannot move, and technically, you're taking damage. If you get hit, a "counter" will increase by 1, and it starts at 1. You take the appropriate amount of damage for each number. (In other words, if the number is 1, you take damage once. If you're not Small Mario, and the counter is 2, you lose a life, since you take damage twice, meaning you take damage as Big/Fire/Cape Mario, then you take damage again as Small Mario, though it happens all at once, meaning once you're free, you lose a life.) However, after a while, you escape the ice, and the damage is dealt. However, you can force the ice to break sooner if you keep trying to move or jump. Just press any button to try to get free. It's fun, and it's great for cold areas! The palette would be once that's Light Blue, like Normal Palette 4.

Edit: Oh yeah, it also looks the same as a Normal Koopa, only different tile locations, so you can have them look different. Plus, if you stomp on it to get it out of its shell, it can still fire ice at you. If you use your Cape's Spin ability, you can bat the ice back at the Koopa, which makes it frozen. At that point, it starts to "melt". (It acts like the Throw Block sprite, only with different tiles, and with Graphics like the Ice Blocks in SMB3.) You can pick it up and throw it too.

I doubt if that would be possible, but letīs see...


(edited by Watermelon on 08-22-06 10:23 PM)
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Posted on 08-22-06 11:24 PM Link | Quote
Well, like I said, it's an idea, and ideas can be turned down, attemtped but failed, and even impossible. Still, it wouldn't hurt to try.
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Posted on 08-22-06 11:42 PM Link | Quote
Whatever happened to "Anything is possible with ASM!"? It would take some work of his own, pikaguy would need to be descriptive of what tilespace he would like to use with the sprite and it's actions. I'm sure if mikeyk is up for it, he could do it.
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