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Cloud7

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Posted on 07-12-06 02:30 PM Link
You know something that really pisses me off? Hacks that contain graphics from other games, especially SMB3. That makes me sick! The authors of those hacks think they're doing something impressive by changing SMW's graphics. Well, guess what: IT'S NOT IMPRESSIVE AT ALL!!!! You just copied the graphics from another game and pasted them on SMW! Is it so hard to draw your own!?

Now, this would'nt bother me so much if those who rip graphics were'nt so arrogant. But they all think they're so talented by changing the graphics, and then criticise newbies who don't edit the graphics. I personally think that not editing the graphics at all is way better than pasting SMB3 graphics in your hack. At least those who don't edit the graphics admit they can't draw with pixels, instead of hiding it by making the game seem flashy and "different."
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Posted on 07-12-06 02:35 PM Link
I think anything is better than original SMW graphics, because some graphics from SMW are, well, bad. I agree with SMB3 GFX being overused though. Having SMB3 GFX isn't special at all now.

There are hacks with original SMW GFX that are good though, so GFX isn't the most important thing of a hack. The graphics may be good and pretty, but graphics can't fix bad level design or too hard/easy difficulty of your hack.
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Posted on 07-12-06 02:38 PM Link
Yeah, I agree that level design is the most important aspect, but original graphics made by the hacker can also make the game more fun.
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Posted on 07-12-06 03:10 PM Link
I don't see why you let it bother you so much.
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Posted on 07-12-06 03:43 PM Link
If this kind of thing pisses you off, then you shouldn't be coming to the boards.

It happens and it WILL happen.
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Posted on 07-12-06 03:45 PM Link
Actually Cloud you're kinda right . I mean I've seen good hacks out there that don't use graphics from other games like: RAGB's Return to Dinosaur Land, now that game was awesome. But, there are some hacks that are full of SMB3 stuff like
Spoiler:
peter_ac's Return to the Mushroom Kingdom.
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Posted on 07-12-06 04:05 PM Link
Ha! Yeah! That sure was a spoiler!

And yes, peter_ac was one of the hackers of whom I was thinking about when I wrote this monologue...
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Posted on 07-12-06 04:19 PM Link
Certain graphics do look better than the originals... I can see what you mean, creativity and the hacker's originality in Gfx would help make a hack more unique, but really, what's the big deal. There are worse hacks out there that you could be complaining about, rather than ones which you don't like simply because of ripped gfx. (See Legoman's hacks for more details).
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Posted on 07-12-06 04:25 PM Link
It's not impressive that graphics are ripped, its impressive how they're used. If someone rips YI/Castlevania/Evo/whatthehellelseever, and use it in a good way, there is no need to care. Some people aren't artistic, and take the GFX from other games to make their hacks look flashy.

I see nothing wrong with this...while SMB3 may be overused, look at peter_ac's ExAnimated overworld. It's SMB3, but it's awesome looking, and much better than what most people can do

(reading over this, I just realized I kept swapping topics...wow )


(edited by S.N.N. on 07-12-06 04:56 PM)
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Posted on 07-12-06 04:27 PM Link
Originally posted by Cloud7
And yes, peter_ac was *insert crappy grammar here* when I wrote this monologue...
Yay! A let's bitch about peter_ac thread!


(edited by peter_ac on 07-12-06 03:32 PM)
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Posted on 07-12-06 05:52 PM Link
Originally posted by Cloud7
And yes, peter_ac was one of the hackers of whom I was thinking about when I wrote this monologue...
Submit a decent non-GFX hack and come up with some valid points, and then we'll talk. I can't help but think you're biased against Peter.

Yes, peter_ac's hacks are full of SMAS rips. But they also have decent level design, which is sadly not present in most n00b hacks (including Legoman's). And while he may be a little arrogant at times, yes, his criticism is usually good, unless the hack's really retarded.

And it's not that we criticize the n00bs because of not changing the graphics, we criticize them because they leave blatantly obvious glitches (graphical or not) and have crappy level design. I'm sorry, but I'll take a SMB3/Megaman/Actraiser flavored level with neat design over a crappy level made out of cement blocks any day of the week.
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Posted on 07-12-06 07:45 PM Link
Eh, if someone would hate my hack just because I used SMAS rips... I'd just not take their criticism seriously. I, myself, don't give a shit if what I'm using is overused. If my levels are good, I'm satisfied with the hack regardless of what graphics it uses.

And Cirvante... one of the best hacks is STILL FPI's "Second Reality Project," which didn't have any graphic hacks
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Posted on 07-12-06 10:00 PM Link
i personally don't like when mario's sprite graphics are ripped from another game. it just feels really weird to me when i'm playing with something that looks like smb 3 mario but has mario world physics.

but as for rips in general, background and even foreground rips are often nice - even more so when they fit the graphics style of the hack.

but i would never ignore a hack just because it uses smb3 mario graphics since the only thing i care that much about is level design.
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Posted on 07-12-06 10:33 PM Link
Was this rant topic really necessary? It's nearly a proven fact that no matter how much it's generally agreed that ripping sucks and should be banned from SMW 4 LYFE, but still people do it and think they're hardasses because of it. It ain't gonna stop just cuz some 12 year old on a rampage decides he doesn't like it and wants to tell everyone else about it.

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