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beneficii Broom Hatter                  Since: 11-18-05 Last post: 6299 days Last view: 6295 days |
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| Talk about a real twist of fate. Edith Delgado, an 18 year-old girl living in California, was drag-racing her friends and was trying to pass a red Ford Explorer, when she couldn't and she hit the Explorer, causing it to go sliding across several lanes before it tumbled on its roof, killing all inside.
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A chaffeur and 2 members of the Tongan Royal Family were inside the Explorer. None of them survived. Ms. Delgado, on the other hand was uninjured, but was jailed on suspicion of vehicular manslaughter and speed racing. Here's the story. |
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Scatterheart Paratroopa   Since: 11-18-05 From: Sydney, Australia Last post: 6319 days Last view: 6295 days |
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| IMHO, if this person doesn't get as harsh a penalty as if raming the president of the U.S., then that's just bullshit.
Besides street racers, the real problem here is everyday speeders. The speed signs aren't a reccomendation...they're the maximum speed FFS! 
Nothing pisses me off more than when my girlfriend's driving with me, and inpatient fuckers start flashing their headlights at us, or do something really stupid. Almost everyone seems to think that it's alright to speed a little bit...but it's not, and people need to be punished MUCH harsher if not obiding by the road rules. Police departments would be much richer if they only focused on road rules, instead of petty drug dealers and other not-so-dangerous crimes. |
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Deleted User Banned    Since: 05-08-06 Last post: None Last view: 6296 days |
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Originally posted by Scatterheart I hate that. I'll be riding with someone and some idiot will drive on the wrong side of the road to get by us or they'll honk the horn 2 seconds after a light turns green. Them impatient fools. Anyways, whoever street races either were never punished by their parents or never listened to the warnings in the video games. You shouldn't street race, or at least do it where they have all sorts of safety procedures set up and it's being done legally, like those things on G4. But apparently, people could care less about their lives and then go kill themselves by doing things like this. I'm surprised people aren't afraid to street race because of things like this. Dumb people are out there driving recklessly and are getting away with it until they die. These people should be stripped of their licenses and get put in jail for a long time. That'll teach 'em. |
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Tarale    2710 Affected by 'Princess Bitch-Face Syndrome' ++++!! Persona non grata Since: 11-17-05 From: Adelaide, Australia Last post: 6295 days Last view: 6295 days |
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| Reckless and rude driving pisses me off too. I can't get on the roads without some arsehat tailgating me cause they are too impatient to actually do the speed limit. Then they will just get closer and closer to my vehicle in an attempt to push or intimidate ME into speeding, and act like I'M the one doing the wrong thing.
There are a lot of idiots around here who drag as well, or race -- my brother being one of them -- and it pisses me off as well. It's really kinda intimidating if you're on the road with those people. My former housemate used to race too -- but there was a big difference -- he did it on a race track, under racing conditions!! He was never silly enough to do it on the roads. 
Bleh... traffic shits me so very very much. |
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Scatterheart Paratroopa Since: 11-18-05 From: Sydney, Australia Last post: 6319 days Last view: 6295 days |
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| Ah! Well my girlfriend might've seemed to have found a solution.
Got an impatient fucker behind your ass? Just tap the brakes slightly, the swerve left and right a little, and they'll think you're pissed (drunk)-as hell! Either that...or constantly flicker your rear fog lights on and off... They tend to look like breaking lights too! 
Makes you wonder about the percentage of drivers out there who actually obide by the rules. I'm guessing... 20%. |
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Tarale 2710 Affected by 'Princess Bitch-Face Syndrome' ++++!! Persona non grata Since: 11-17-05 From: Adelaide, Australia Last post: 6295 days Last view: 6295 days |
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Originally posted by Scatterheart I dunno, but I'd say clearly not enough. And I always find it laughable when I see those signs on the side of the road that say "Police now targeting... tailgating" because I NEVER SEE ANYTHING HAPPEN ABOUT IT. Hell, the POLICE will friggen tailgate you even at times
I think it's disgusting -- furthermore, if you DO speed up because you feel unsafe because of the git behind you, you'll get done for speeding -- although there IS some recourse through the court system where you MAY be able to get off if you can provide a convincing argument that you were being bullied/tailgated. Oh well, the only moderately comforting idea about tailgating is that if they crash into the back of you due to their idiocy, it's THEIR fault and they have to pay all the insurance. Course, you're also likely to wind up with serious back problems and such if they do too |
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Young Guru Snifit  Since: 11-18-05 From: Notre Dame, IN Last post: 6302 days Last view: 6295 days |
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Originally posted by Tarale Good luck trying to prove that they were 100% at fault, cause if you can't, you've got that niffty little hike in insurance for the next three years, which nobody enjoys. On a side note, the problem isn't people that speed, it's people that drive reckless. And before you jump on me for this, there is a way to speed without being reckless. I hate being in the car with one of my friends because he's reckless, and it doesn't really matter weather he's driving fast or slow, he just doesn't pay attention to what's going on. On the other hand, my best friend and I both usually drive 10-20 over the speed limit in just about any situation, but the difference is that we are both really attentive drivers and could probably name off every make, model, year, color, and modification on every single car that we passed in the last hour, not to mention every single pot hole, mis-painted lane line, bent traffic sign, etc. Driving is all about being aware and having control of your vehicle. If you can do that, then it doesn't really matter how fast you drive, you're probably 100 times safer than the person who isn't in control of their vehicle going the speed limit. Ok, I'm done with my rant on how speeding isn't an evil thing. And I do agree that racing is probably the dumbest thing you can do (at least on regular streets, racing at tracks in a racing environment is a ton of fun and not a bad thing at all). Roads are not meant to be raced on, they don't have the care that race tracks get, little dips, pot holes, and in general uneven and beaten to shit pavement do not mix well with racing speeds and movements. |
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Doritokiller Mole Since: 06-15-06 From: California Last post: 6438 days Last view: 6301 days |
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| People around where I am drive not a simple 5 miles above the Speed Limit, but more like 20. Say I'm on Highway 101 with my mom. Speed Limit's 60 mph. She's going 65 mph. Almost everyone on the highway will pass us. And it's not one of those passes where they slowly pass you. This is one where they are going like 1 1/2 times faster than us.
Well, at least we never have drag races. Heh. I was just reminded of this time I saw an ice cream truck drive by my house slowly. I see it coming back again, at about twice its speed. Just about 10 feet behind it was a van going slightly faster. |
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Sweet Kassy Molassy Out of ice cream and PB. Would KILL for a milkshake right now.  Since: 06-17-06 From: LoozeeAnna Last post: 6296 days Last view: 6295 days |
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Originally posted by Young Guru I'm not sure how it works everywhere, but where I live anyone who hits someone from behind is automatically at fault, regardless of what anyone claims the situation to have been. I could get on the highway, change lanes in front of someone, hit the brakes, and they'd be legally at fault because they rear-ended me. Yeah, it could be abused like I described above, but it probably far more often protects the interests of honest drivers. |
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drjayphd Torosu OW! BURNY!  Since: 11-18-05 From: CT Last post: 6298 days Last view: 6296 days |
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Originally posted by Doritokiller   (tends to do more like 80 when the limit's 65)
But it's just because I know what I'm capable of and therefore, don't go that fast unless, well, traffic's that fast. Those douches who do 100 and weave without signaling? I KEEL YOU! |
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Sweet Kassy Molassy Out of ice cream and PB. Would KILL for a milkshake right now. Since: 06-17-06 From: LoozeeAnna Last post: 6296 days Last view: 6295 days |
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| I'm guilty too. I had a long distance girlfriend in San Antonio for a while and I got used to driving for hours on US 79. I tended to do about 90 because it was straight and mostly deserted and there are very few towns.
Unfortunately that carried over when I was living 40 minutes from school. The parking situation at and around my university is abyssmal and I got used to driving really fast to make my 8am classes so I'd have time to park. It seemed like no matter how early I got up and left the house I was cutting it close. Fortunately I've gotten out of that habit. I'd rather just cruise and jam to the stereo and I pretty much obey speed limit. (edited by Kasdarack on 07-10-06 01:23 AM) |
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Doritokiller Mole Since: 06-15-06 From: California Last post: 6438 days Last view: 6301 days |
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| Here's something that truly confuses me. There are many, many car crashes happening everywhere, strokes of stupidity while driving, etc. We still drive under so many intimidating things. We know how fast life can end in a car. So you missed that brake? What's the worst that can happen? The very worst. You could be planning on what to do later that day, and then all of a sudden, those plans will be virtually impossible. It's strange... | |||
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Tarale 2710 Affected by 'Princess Bitch-Face Syndrome' ++++!! Persona non grata Since: 11-17-05 From: Adelaide, Australia Last post: 6295 days Last view: 6295 days |
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| I'll admit that I speed too. But I tend not to on roads with heavy traffic, and I especially try not to tailgate because I know how horribly dangerous and intimidating it can be.
Besides, I want enough time to stop if the driver in front of me has to suddenly. And yes, here... if you're hit from behind, regardless, it's the other driver's fault.  So as I said, it is slightly comforting to know that the tailgating idiot is going to have to pay out my insurance if they run up the back of me when traffic conditions change suddenly
But yes, I enjoy a good speed... usually in the middle of nowhere... in which case I enjoy a really good little bit of speeding, wheeeee!  |
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Sweet Kassy Molassy Out of ice cream and PB. Would KILL for a milkshake right now. Since: 06-17-06 From: LoozeeAnna Last post: 6296 days Last view: 6295 days |
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| Fastest I've ever driven was 125 miles per hour in the accord I used to have. It had some kcik, not bad for a 4 cylinder. I didn't keep that up for long. I had the feeling I was barely on the road and the spoiler was screaming bloody murder. I was on a /really/ long straight stretch though so I figured I'd see what it could do. It was my first car and I'd just gotten it. | |||
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Deleted User Banned Since: 05-08-06 Last post: None Last view: 6296 days |
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Originally posted by Kasdarack Isn't this what roller coasters are for? They may not get up to that fast, but they're safer and they can go upside down, kinda like your car when you speed off the side off the road at a speed like that, only you'll die that way or at least have some sort of major injury.
I can't drive yet, but I know that when I'm driving I won't be stupid things like this. Seriously, my parents threatened so I'm a little scared to do it. Besides, I have games I can do that in.  (edited by Syn on 07-10-06 02:02 AM) |
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Tarale 2710 Affected by 'Princess Bitch-Face Syndrome' ++++!! Persona non grata Since: 11-17-05 From: Adelaide, Australia Last post: 6295 days Last view: 6295 days |
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| Fastest I ever went was 160kmph on a long, straight, empty desolate stretch of road in the middle of nowhere.
Fastest I was comfortable going at though was 130kmph. The speed limit in that area was 110kmph (state limit). This was in a car that I was very comfortable driving, on a road that I was very familiar with, during daylight hours. If it were nighttime, or a different car, or a different road I'd not have done the same. I didn't spend all that long at the 160kmph mark either, noticing some instability in the way the car felt. Wouldn't try the same shit in the City at all (ie, speeding -- not 160kmph... that would be suicide...) (edited by Tarale on 07-10-06 02:09 AM) |
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Sweet Kassy Molassy Out of ice cream and PB. Would KILL for a milkshake right now. Since: 06-17-06 From: LoozeeAnna Last post: 6296 days Last view: 6295 days |
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| Rofl. I Don't like roller coasters. I ride them all every time I go to Six Flags, but never enjoy it. I like speed and heights ok, but I don't deal well with not being in control.
This might stem from a bad experience in an ultralight plane though. The pilot asked if I liked roller coasters and I made the mistake of replying in the affirmative. I had just had a large meal. I didn't puke, but I didn't have any kind of fun either. I vaguely recall enjoying coasters before that... |
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Hawksun Red Koopa  Since: 04-06-06 From: Canada Last post: 6516 days Last view: 6516 days |
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| I don't especially mind speeding on reasonable levels (as in 10 km/h over the speed limit tops, if you can even call that speeding). However, speeding (excessive or not) in a residential area is just plain wrong.
I also remember that the evening of the day one my friends just got his licence, he drove around 160-170 km/h on a long lane that segued into a "T" intersection near my home. However, he misjudged the length of the lane and thus couldn't slow down enough before realizing that there was a sidewalk in front of his car. Let's just say that we were pretty relieved to be fine and dandy after the crash (which luckily wasn't that big). Events like that are reasons why I don't really like speeding and will probably not do it upon obtaining my first car (but then my mindset my change, but who knows/cares). As for tailgating crashes faults, I think it's resolved on a case by case basis around here. |
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Young Guru Snifit Since: 11-18-05 From: Notre Dame, IN Last post: 6302 days Last view: 6295 days |
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Originally posted by Kasdarack That's a pretty increadible law. I know that where I live it's case by case for the exact reason you stated in the last part of your post. People were scamming insurance companies like crazy, so now they investigate it. And I'm pretty sure if you rearend someone where you live but have a really good insurance investigation team that can prove that the person in front of you was driving 65 and just decided to mash the brakes for no reason aside from making you crash you could probably get them to pay for it. |
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