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mikeyk

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Posted on 07-02-06 02:57 AM Link | Quote
The major part of sprite tool is done, and I have some people testing it at the moment. Here's some screens of some sprites that are included...



There's a few more that aren't pictured, but these are the sprites that will probably be included in the first public release. To save a few questions, that should be in a few weeks.
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Posted on 07-02-06 02:59 AM Link | Quote
Do you have a complete understanding of everything that goes on in roms? Muchly more, this rom? It seems like you can practically do ANYTHING in it. It must've taken extensive reprogramming....
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Posted on 07-02-06 03:05 AM Link | Quote
WHOA!

Those are the wootest sprites I have ever seen in SMW. Mikeyk, you can make anything posible with sprite hacking. I applaud you for your extensive hard work.

*rates Mikeyk a 10*
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Posted on 07-02-06 03:13 AM Link | Quote
Okay, this has been bugging me for a while.

Are the donut lifts coded purely as sprites?
'cause I would think that would cause an assload of lag if you put a bunch of them on the screen at once.

If you haven't already done so (and if you have, feel free to ignore me), you should consider adding a block that spawns the donut lift sprite when Mario stands on it for however long, which I'm pretty sure is how it worked in the original games.
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Posted on 07-02-06 03:21 AM Link | Quote
I was under the impression that the lag involved in having many sprites on the screen was related to the amount of code required to handle them (collision detection, movement code, etc). But donut lifts are stationary most of the time and maybe one or two will be moving in position at any given time b/c they only move when Mario is standing on them or when they are falling. Though I agree that making them as tiles that turn into sprites would be way less overhead.
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Posted on 07-02-06 03:24 AM Link | Quote
Well, the code would slow down a lot, as they'd all be checking for mario's collision with them every frame. they don't need to move to slow down SMW.
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Posted on 07-02-06 03:31 AM Link | Quote
The donut lifts are blocks that turn into sprites. That's how they've been since I released the code here http://home.comcast.net/~dkaminski/disasm/dis.html, but now they're significantly easier to insert with sprite tool.
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Posted on 07-02-06 04:42 AM Link | Quote
Mikey, you are a g0d among men.

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Posted on 07-02-06 08:47 AM Link | Quote
What other sprites are included that aren't pictured? *hopes for a Fire Brother*

This looks so cool. Can't wait till a release.
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Posted on 07-02-06 09:07 AM Link | Quote
JESUS FUCK CHRIST!!!

Here's the kicker though: How easy is it to place new sprites in levels?
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Posted on 07-02-06 09:30 AM Link | Quote
I'm even more impressed about the Rotodiscs. Aren't they just modified Ball 'N Chains, since the chain of these sprites doesn't affect Mario's movement anyway ?
Also the ball itself is smaller than the Rotodisc.

Anyway, I have no clue in pure ROM/ASM hacking at all, but how does the game keep track if a Donut Lift already fell down or if it still is in place ?
As for question-, turn blocks and coins there probably are flags which check if it got destroyed/picked up (?), I'm not sure.
And can enemies cross Donuts Lifts normally or do they act like air for them ?


(edited by Surlent on 07-02-06 08:31 AM)
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Posted on 07-02-06 09:55 AM Link | Quote
I was sent a beta of Sprite Tool in its command line form by mikeyk last week, and it's incredibly easy to use and insert the sprites. Great work again, mikeyk.

*agrees with Rain Man*
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Posted on 07-02-06 09:57 AM Link | Quote
Originally posted by peter_ac
and it's incredibly easy to use and insert the sprites.
That is a fantastic deal of information Peter! I feel educated...



(hint: how easy this is to use is directly linked to the chances of me working on Ninji Saga 2 again)
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Posted on 07-02-06 10:14 AM Link | Quote
Originally posted by peter_ac
Sprite Tool in its command line form


Actually, it's not a command line program (even though mikeyk states that it is in the readme).

A command line tool is used by opening a DOS console, jumping to the directory the program is located in and typing "sprite_tool smw.smc sprites.txt". However, Sprite Tool asks for the file names and lets you input them, giving it a GUI, Graphical User Interface (as opposed to CLI, Command Line Interface).

*Ehem* Sorry about that.

Anyway. Sprite Tool is pure pwnage. I hope that it's released soon so all of you can enjoy it.
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Posted on 07-02-06 10:16 AM Link | Quote
0_0 WHOAHMIGOD!!!

It makes me want to return to SMW hacking...

If that can make bosses too, you are almost a god


(edited by Shiryu on 07-02-06 09:17 AM)
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Posted on 07-02-06 11:14 AM Link | Quote
Originally posted by The Kins
Originally posted by peter_ac
and it's incredibly easy to use and insert the sprites.
That is a fantastic deal of information Peter!

I could take the time to explain how it works as it is, but it's likely to work differently when it has a GUI. Basically, it just runs by referring to an external text file which contains the path to the sprites and which slot to use. But as I said, it will probably be a lot more user-friendly when mikeyk releases it.

Another thing that makes this awesome, is that you can insert up to 200 extra sprites without overwriting any of the old ones.
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Posted on 07-02-06 11:48 AM Link | Quote
200 extra sprites? Without overwriting old ones?

This is gonna create some intresting SMW hacks.

And you can create your own sprites? How much knowledge will you need to do this?
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Posted on 07-02-06 11:58 AM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Rain Man
And you can create your own sprites?

Of course. Otherwise, it would be pretty useless.

Originally posted by Rain Man
How much knowledge will you need to do this?

All you need to know is ASM and how sprites works.
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Posted on 07-02-06 11:59 AM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Smallhacker
Originally posted by Rain Man
And you can create your own sprites?

Of course. Otherwise, it would be pretty useless.


It wasn't a question, it was a show of excitement. Although it is rather hard to tell over the internet.
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Posted on 07-02-06 12:04 PM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Smallhacker
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How much knowledge will you need to do this?

All you need to know is ASM and how sprites works.
Not really. It also lets you create modifications of original sprites, like you could in MWR or Tweaker, and insert them as brand new sprites. I know very little ASM, and I found it simple to make them.


(edited by peter_ac on 07-02-06 11:05 AM)
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