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| Acmlm's Board - I3 Archive - SMW Hacking - This board has changed a lot hasn't it? |
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The Ultimate Koopa Red Paragoomba Account banned at user's request.                   Since: 12-24-05 From: England Last post: 6518 days Last view: 6518 days |
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| Sorry for this irrelevant topic, but... well, when I say it's changed, I mean it's just full of people asking questions such as 'Does anyone have a link to hack X?', or other questions like that, whereas in the past, it used to have topics containing newly released hacks with screenshots. The newest hack topic was last replied to on 17th (4 days ago), and the 2nd newest topics (unless I missed some) were "SMW: Return to the Mushroom Kingdom Screenshots" and "ExAnimated Overworld", both of which were created by peter_ac, and only had a time period of 10 hours, 28 minutes. So, my question is, how come this board seems to be getting suddenly... well, boring? (Would this be partly why this is in the 'Crap' category (I forget the actual category's name... already!)? | |||
Smallhacker Super Koopa I AM A Group Of Officially Frustrated Younglings, G.O.O.F.Y. MEMBER |
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| Newbies comes here, asking newbie questions. People gets sick of answering the same questions over and over again. An FAQ is written to make people stop asking questions. Nobody cares about stickies or announcements and asks their questions anyway. The good hackers then gets enough and leaves.
In other words, the community is slowly dying due to good hackers leaving before the new hackers have learned enough to be good hackers, stopping the evolution. The not-yet-good hackers leaves. Left is the not-good-at-all hackers. After a while, they leave as well. The community is now dead. Summary: SMW Hacking is doomed unless we can make morons LOOK FOR INFORMATION OR TRY TO FIGURE STUFF OUT THEMSELVES before asking anything. |
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Alastor Fearless Moderator Hero    Since: 11-17-05 From: An apartment by DigiPen, Redmond, Washington Last post: 6289 days Last view: 6289 days |
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| I could fix the problem in about five seconds if the anti-flaming rules were abolished and I was made admin (and thus given authority to ban whoever I want).
Take that how you will. (edited by Stealthy Trash Soil on 06-23-06 06:36 PM) |
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Kingpin Since: 11-21-05 From: Amarillo, TX Last post: 6295 days Last view: 6289 days |
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| Never thought I would find myself saying this, but I fully support "Stealthy." We need less talk and more bans. Not just temp bans either, permabans. | |||
Sukasa Birdo Not quite as active as before. Xkeeper supporter Xk > ||bass I IP Banned myself! Twice!  Since: 11-17-05 From: Somewhere over there Last post: 6290 days Last view: 6289 days |
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| I concur. I don't think it's any surprise that BMF and FuSoYa and other good hackers aren't seen around here. N00bs drive prettymuch everyone away. | |||
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Smallhacker Super Koopa I AM A Group Of Officially Frustrated Younglings, G.O.O.F.Y. MEMBER |
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| I like Stealthy's method. Cruel, but efficient. | |||
Cirvania Cyball I guess this is as close as Xkeeper will get to spell it right. :< Since: 11-17-05 From: The Island of Puerto Rico. Last post: 6291 days Last view: 6290 days |
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| Yes. Kyouji's method seems to be appropriate in this case.
I would like to emphasize the "flaming" part. The rules should have an exception for this forum (and possibly ROM hacking as well). If we are allowed to openly flame the idiots who come here asking "i cna't do exgfx, plz help?" or "Do my ASM hack for me", they'll leave on their own and never come back. And if they come back, by all means, drop the banvil. |
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Kingpin Since: 11-21-05 From: Amarillo, TX Last post: 6295 days Last view: 6289 days |
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| No. Members shouldnt be aloud to flame, because they wont leave. They will just keep flaming as well. Then every thread would be a flamewar. Just let mods and admins flame. That should be fine. | |||
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Pas'ra'chilli Red Paragoomba  Since: 01-23-06 From: Albuquerque Last post: 6362 days Last view: 6321 days |
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| Well something needs to be done. I come back after a year hiatus and find this waiting for me.
Every time the old board crashed it got a little harder to come back and now that I am back I find that all I want to do is leave. I've got an old sense of obligation but not much else keeping me here. There's no point in trying to explain things to people who can barely type English. And it's hard to be helpful in a forum ripe with such users. With SMW Central up and running I believe that in a very short time I won't even need to come here. Eventually all the documentation, programs, and hacks I want will all be there. The forum is almost obsolete. Too bad, but those are the times. |
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Graviteh Red Paragoomba Since: 11-20-05 Last post: 6378 days Last view: 6378 days |
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Originally posted by Sukasa + You're dumb. |
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C:/xkas bio.asm Compiled ASM code  Since: 11-17-05 Last post: 6289 days Last view: 6289 days |
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| Am I the only one here that disagrees with all that newbie bashing thing? By doing so, you're destroying the next generation of 'good hackers'. Also most of you guy did newbie stuff at some point. Would you liked to have been banned at this time? Probably not. Here are some examples in case you guy don't renember:
Sukasa asking a question answered in the FAQ, with that anti-newbie policy, he would've been flamed or even banned for this, peter_ac asking a generic GFX ripping question, and Cirvante asking random questions about how to do stuff There is also probably a lot more if you dig. Edit: How did I forget, BMF's first thread was called 'WOOHOO! I'm learning ASM!'. Sadly, all post in it got deleted but that proves even BMF did newbie stuff. Edit 2: I wanted to add this sightly edited acmlmoron comic. 
Why do you feel obligated to tell every single newbie who asks a question to read the FAQ in a rude manner? If you don't feel like being nice about it, leave the thread for someone else to help the person. Eventually, someone has to be nice and answer the question without being rude. Instead of being 'tired of answering the same question over and over again', don't answer it. It's as simple as that. The board looks like a whole lot nice community with idiots than flamers. (edited by Bio.exe on 06-23-06 11:38 PM) (edited by Bio.exe on 06-23-06 11:46 PM) (edited by Bio.exe on 06-23-06 11:48 PM) (edited by Bio.exe on 06-24-06 01:02 AM) (edited by Bio.exe on 06-24-06 01:02 AM) (edited by Bio.exe on 06-24-06 01:06 AM) (edited by Bio.exe on 06-24-06 01:08 AM) (edited by Bio.exe on 06-24-06 01:09 AM) (edited by Bio.exe on 06-24-06 01:10 AM) (edited by Bio.exe on 06-24-06 01:13 AM) |
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wtfweb Red Koopa  Since: 02-10-06 Last post: 6300 days Last view: 6290 days |
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| i think we should just (be allowed to) taunt stupid people for being stupid...
as harshly as possible someone makes a stupid topic? it gets laughed at andr its creator gets personally insulted for being a bad poster that way people will realize that there's a certain expectation for posting but on the other hand, if someone is just asking a simple question, there's no reason not to answer them and be nice about it. dont close topics just because the question they ask is answered in some FAQ somewhere (edited by wtfweb on 06-24-06 02:13 AM) (edited by wtfweb on 06-24-06 02:14 AM) |
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mikeyk Shyguy Since: 02-22-06 Last post: 6452 days Last view: 6297 days |
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| while some people make a case for new comers to ask whatever come to their mind, i think it's easy to lurk for a while and get a sense for what's appropriate. i think it's too common for noobs to look past available resources... especially the lunar magic help file. it's a great source for almost everything a newbie could need. to think of the time that fu put into it only for everyone to ignore it is disheartening.
it's easy to judge everyone at being noobs at some point, but that doesn't mean the board should be crowded with the same questions. i remember reading tons of posts before i ever imagined asking a silly question. you can take a look at my first post ever here (nearly two years now, but fitting that it's about sprite editing). maybe there has been a decline in hacks... it has been awhile since i've seen a screenshots thread, but i don't think that it's something permanent. i hope that we can see some quality work from the smw hacking community. |
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Boom.dk Since: 11-18-05 From: Denmark Last post: 6307 days Last view: 6289 days |
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| I fully agree with Bio.
You are teachers. Teachers are asked the same questions many times each year. I know they get paid for it, but you also get something... given that you want the SMW hacking scene to stay alive, that is. ... and teachers also had to start by going to school. I've tried to solve this problem by creating a so called "N00b SMW Hacking" forum at my board. Every thread that's more than 7 days old gets deleted automatically. With this forum, I want to avoid moderators and other users flaming n00bs and closing their threads by simply not answering them if they don't want to. Maybe Acmlm should have the same. If you think about it... the time it takes for someone to fetch a proper "THIS THREAD SUCKS" image, write a message to flame the poster, and click the close thread button... Does it actually take less time than actually answering the question? Or is it just to show that you are a mighty moderator? (edited by Boom.dk on 06-24-06 06:07 AM) |
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Alastor Fearless Moderator Hero Since: 11-17-05 From: An apartment by DigiPen, Redmond, Washington Last post: 6289 days Last view: 6289 days |
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| boom.dk, you say we are teachers? Hah. That would mean that the noobs are students. If you'll notice, I have no problem with people asking questions not answered by the sticky threads or the announcement, which are more or less our textbook equivalents. However, they go ignored the vast majority of the time. If these people are students, they're damned awful ones. In my college classes, I pay attention to what the instructors say, read the material, and ask questions only when I can't find the answer. The "students" we have on this forum practically ask us to do their homework FOR them. That I will not do. (edited by Alastor the Stylish on 06-24-06 11:29 AM) |
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spel werdz rite Since: 11-19-05 Last post: 6290 days Last view: 6289 days |
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| My first post was asking if there was a Super Mario All-Stars Editor. This was before the sticky saying to Google it, but the n00b1n355 was still there. I was an idiot when I started, I constatly bumped threads was my major beginners mistake. What turned me around was the three strike system. I was warned that I could get banned for keeping this up, and they linked me to the FAQ (which I didn't bother to read when I registered). After that, I started trying harder and I built on experience. Now, I am building a SMAS editor! I'm learning C++ and I'm doing this on my own. My point is, the three strike system should stay in effect. We should include "not asking questions in the FAQ/Sticky." Maybe even just two strikes, because one warning is enough before the BANvil is dropped.
One more thing, Alastor can't be Admin because he'd drop the BANvil on me so fast, that I'll be at power level -3. |
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Yoshi Master Shyguy  Since: 11-18-05 From: That one place. Last post: 6302 days Last view: 6299 days |
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| I don't often come out with suggestions, but I think we should have a basic SMW hacking forum like before, but instead, make the n00bs proove themselves before given the option of even entering the SMW hacking forum. We will make this forum act sort of like the admin forum where you won't have the option of entering unless you've proven yourself worthy. We could some how label worthy hackers filtering out the bad hacks and stupid questions. Thats the only thing I can think of. | |||
Pac Bandit Free Ice Man!  Since: 11-18-05 From: Ireland Rate me Last post: 6289 days Last view: 6289 days |
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| I knew those old posts would come back to haunt me someday. _¬
wtfweb, the first one, I like. 
Originally posted by mikeykHere, here. Thing is, nobody ever does that. spel werdz rite, sorry I was a moron. 
Now I'm usually an optimist, but to me, the SMW Hacking community at Acmlm's Board has been permanently destroyed. I can see SMW Central's board getting slightly more active soon, but I can't see many of the good SMW hackers like mikeyk, The Kins, and Juggling Joker moving there, because of our image. =/ Thing is, this forum, and the SMW hacking community is neglected here, it is under crap, after all. But all of this hasn't discouraged me from working on my hack, no, I'm still gonna make it, and finish it, and release it at SMW Central, and possibly here if this forum is still alive when it's done. |
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Rexxon Newcomer Since: 06-24-06 Last post: 6528 days Last view: 6528 days |
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| I'm kind of in the middle of the road in regards to this particular topic.
On one hand, I can understand that having the same questions repeated time after time would become annoying. On the other hand though, If we were harsher and every quesiton was just referred to a FAQ, Would there be anything left? I don't see many threads about new hacks lately, Pretty much all the posts are about questions. Thus, If these threads dissappeared, The board would be pretty much dead, Right? Now I know how to use the editor, But I still have severe problems with ExGraphics and such. Mostly I work on level editing. I like reading these questions, As they are a means of learning. I mostly lurk, But I may post if I have a question, Regardless of the 'noobieness' of it. Are you saying you don't want my kind around? Thank you for your time listening to this semi-rant, Everyone. |
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Boom.dk Since: 11-18-05 From: Denmark Last post: 6307 days Last view: 6289 days |
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| Yes, Kyouji, that's exactly what I'm saying. I agree with you about the students being awful, but you probably weren't much better when you started in school. Ok, ok, most of the people here are older than you were at that time, and should exercise common sense a little more. I can see it from their point of view, though. I would also rather have someone answer my questions than look through an endless number of manuals and guides and such.
... but of course you shouldn't do their homework. |
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