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Trapster

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Since: 11-19-05
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Posted on 11-27-05 07:33 AM Link
Okay thatīs the most unnecessary "something" Day ever.

And how many people cares about it, anyway.
Kattwah

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Posted on 11-27-05 11:51 AM Link
Hey, it could be worse...

There could be a national "Boycott Cheese Graters" day

Im JUST SAYING
Trapster

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Since: 11-19-05
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Posted on 11-27-05 12:01 PM Link
I donīt like cheese so it wouldnīt be the end of the wolrd for me.

Rydain

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Posted on 11-27-05 03:22 PM Link
Originally posted by Alastor the Stylish
Originally posted by Rydain
Buy Nothing Day
Lordy lord lord. That is the stupidest idea ever. You're not hurting the corporations at all, because they don't exactly do a daily count of merchandise purchased, and people are just going to buy the same stuff before/after anyway. How this does anything to help is just beyond me.
You seem to be getting Buy Nothing Day confused with the 24-hour gasoline boycott that makes its rounds via email on occasion. That really is pointless because if you drive a gas-burning car, you can't opt out of buying gasoline, and you're going to have to buy it sometime anyway. As I mentioned before, I would not take BND to the ridiculous extreme of refusing to buy something I needed and would have just bought on any other day (gas, food, etc.) However, both of the premises you use for insulting the idea of BND are flawed.

Black Friday is one of the biggest shopping days of the year in the United States, and retailers do in fact care about how much money they make on that day. This is why they go to such lengths to entice massive crowds of people into their stores. It is not just a matter of a few stores having sales at the same time. I have also never seen sleazeball moneymaking tactics taken to such an extreme on any normal sale weekend. On Black Friday, retailers will commonly offer a very limited supply of expensive merchandise at an unusually deep discount. The idea is that people will gather in hordes to storm the store trying to get their mitts on that stuff. Regardless of whether or not they score a 50% discounted plasma TV, they will likely buy other merchandise, which is not discounted. Now, enticing people into the store with sales is standard business procedure, but the idea of encouraging stressed-out mobs of people to choke the store all day long seems excessive to me, especially because it brings out impolite and dangerous human behavior - anything from line cutting to trampling and knocking down others to getting into fist fights over that last Xbox. It disgusts me that people allow themselves to get so worked up over some stupid nonessential item.

Furthermore, the average consumer can very well be enticed to buy something that they would not have otherwise purchased just because it is on sale. They don't think about whether or not they really want it, how they would use it, etc. All they see is a massive discount that they might not come across ever again, so they think they're saving a boatload of money.

The point is that on Black Friday, by and large, people don't go out and take advantage of LOW LOW PRICES to get things they had already planned on buying. They go out and buy because they are conditioned to - because they have a Pavlovian reaction to retailers' tricks. Even if Buy Nothing Day does not currently put a massive dent in retailers' bottom lines on major shopping days, it is a conversation starter. Over time, if more people think about why they shop, they may be less inclined to waste time, money, and stress on gewgaws that they neither need nor want.

As I said earlier, I don't have anything against Black Friday shopping per se. If you get a great deal on something you would have ordinarily bought, and you don't lower yourself to the level of some ill-behaved troglodyte in the process, that's all fine and dandy. My opinion would better be represented by "If you go shopping on a major day for retailers, think about what you're buying instead of just drooling over a sale tag and, above all, don't be an asshole" Day.


(edited by Rydain on 11-27-05 02:48 PM)
Trapster

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Since: 11-19-05
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Posted on 11-27-05 05:21 PM Link
I think Iīm gonna ask some people that are good hackers to do a raid on shock-therapy.com.

I want that site of the net. Stupid image changing #%#&.

Anyway, letīs drop that.
Alastor
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Since: 11-17-05
From: An apartment by DigiPen, Redmond, Washington

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Posted on 11-27-05 07:49 PM Link
Originally posted by Rydain
You seem to be getting Buy Nothing Day confused with the 24-hour gasoline boycott that makes its rounds via email on occasion. That really is pointless because if you drive a gas-burning car, you can't opt out of buying gasoline, and you're going to have to buy it sometime anyway. As I mentioned before, I would not take BND to the ridiculous extreme of refusing to buy something I needed and would have just bought on any other day (gas, food, etc.) However, both of the premises you use for insulting the idea of BND are flawed.

Black Friday is one of the biggest shopping days of the year in the United States, and retailers do in fact care about how much money they make on that day. This is why they go to such lengths to entice massive crowds of people into their stores. It is not just a matter of a few stores having sales at the same time. I have also never seen sleazeball moneymaking tactics taken to such an extreme on any normal sale weekend. On Black Friday, retailers will commonly offer a very limited supply of expensive merchandise at an unusually deep discount. The idea is that people will gather in hordes to storm the store trying to get their mitts on that stuff. Regardless of whether or not they score a 50% discounted plasma TV, they will likely buy other merchandise, which is not discounted. Now, enticing people into the store with sales is standard business procedure, but the idea of encouraging stressed-out mobs of people to choke the store all day long seems excessive to me, especially because it brings out impolite and dangerous human behavior - anything from line cutting to trampling and knocking down others to getting into fist fights over that last Xbox. It disgusts me that people allow themselves to get so worked up over some stupid nonessential item.

Furthermore, the average consumer can very well be enticed to buy something that they would not have otherwise purchased just because it is on sale. They don't think about whether or not they really want it, how they would use it, etc. All they see is a massive discount that they might not come across ever again, so they think they're saving a boatload of money.

The point is that on Black Friday, by and large, people don't go out and take advantage of LOW LOW PRICES to get things they had already planned on buying. They go out and buy because they are conditioned to - because they have a Pavlovian reaction to retailers' tricks. Even if Buy Nothing Day does not currently put a massive dent in retailers' bottom lines on major shopping days, it is a conversation starter. Over time, if more people think about why they shop, they may be less inclined to waste time, money, and stress on gewgaws that they neither need nor want.

As I said earlier, I don't have anything against Black Friday shopping per se. If you get a great deal on something you would have ordinarily bought, and you don't lower yourself to the level of some ill-behaved troglodyte in the process, that's all fine and dandy. My opinion would better be represented by "If you go shopping on a major day for retailers, think about what you're buying instead of just drooling over a sale tag and, above all, don't be an asshole" Day.
Good lord that's a long post

Anyway the thing is that. I've never even heard of Black Friday sales before now. I've never seen any advertisements for them or anything. So I guess the concept is just foreign to me. And yeah, I live in the US =/

And I'm aware that it's unlike the gas thing. That hadn't even entered my mind, actually. I just still don't see how it helps. The few people who do this are probably ones who would be smart about what they're doing anyway, and the rest wouldn't care. I just can't imagine the number of people who would observe "buy nothing day" simply because they heard about it as in any way significant.

Oh, and traps, don't get mad at a website for doing something awesome. Plenty of sites have "bandwidth thief" messages, it's just that this one changes it to something the posting of which is a bannable offense on most places where it would be hotlinked anyway. It's your fault for not checking before you did something like that.


(edited by Alastor the Stylish on 11-27-05 06:52 PM)
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Posted on 11-27-05 11:54 PM Link
I can see it's effect more in the States but the problem is that when the school newspaper writes about it every year, they're saying you should buy NOTHING. No meals, no coffee, no newspaper, nothing. So by trying to force that idea down our throats and taking the most extreme position on the day, even though I'm sure most which follow the day don't take it to that extreme... it doesn't make Buy Nothing Day sound appetizing. :\
Trapster

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Since: 11-19-05
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Posted on 11-28-05 08:25 AM Link
But some days you donīt NEED to buy anything because you already have enough.

But it still doesnīt have anything yo do with the Buy Nothing Day.

Are there more weird days like this?
Kattwah

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Posted on 11-28-05 04:28 PM Link
I just dont go out on Black Friday... nothing big...

Besides... stores are scary enough to keep me away in the first place...

Buy Nothing day is really, just... not necessary...
Alastor
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Posted on 11-28-05 04:33 PM Link
See? That's what I said. People agree with me.
Trapster

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Since: 11-19-05
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Posted on 11-28-05 05:26 PM Link
Originally posted by KATW
I just dont go out on Black Friday... nothing big...

Besides... stores are scary enough to keep me away in the first place...



And we donīt have Black Friday in sweden.

Are you afraid of stores, KATW?
Kattwah

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Posted on 11-28-05 05:43 PM Link
I am not afraid of stores trapster...

Im afraid of the crowds of people, who will actually TRAMPLE, yes TRAMPLE (Has happened several times here) for merchandise.
Trapster

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Since: 11-19-05
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Posted on 11-28-05 06:38 PM Link
Well, Iīve never seen a store be THAT crowded before. And I hope I wonīt.

Itīs not always like that, you know.
Danielle

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Posted on 11-28-05 07:25 PM Link
As I was driving home Friday morning at 4 am, there was a line outside of Best Buy about 100 people deep, because they opened their doors at 5 am for "huge savings."

I laughed at those people. It was like.. below freezing in Washington.
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Posted on 11-28-05 07:54 PM Link
So how does everyone like my addition to my custom title?

Lex Luger is truly a hero for all ages.
Xkeeper
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Posted on 11-28-05 08:36 PM Link
I'm banned.
Kattwah

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Posted on 11-28-05 08:43 PM Link
Originally posted by E
I'm banned.
Why are you posting...

OMG EXPLOITZ

PS: Emptyeye, wouldnt that fit better OVER the text? Or even under the text?
DarkSlaya

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Posted on 11-28-05 08:52 PM Link
Yay, finnaly got my freaking local server to work.

(note to self: Listen Port Number)
Emptyeye

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Posted on 11-28-05 10:41 PM Link
I think it works best like this, actually. Almost got it looking how I want it to...
Trapster

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Posted on 11-29-05 11:10 AM Link
Originally posted by
I'm banned.


OMG, heīs invisible.

Well, almost. "Lex Luger is truly a hero for all ages."

Iīve heard the name but I donīt really know who the guy is.





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