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| Acmlm's Board - I3 Archive - World Affairs/Debate - Assuming Jesus had a child... |
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Jomb Deddorokku                  Since: 12-03-05 From: purgatory Last post: 6298 days Last view: 6298 days |
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Am i actually communicating with Neitzluber, or is this just someone else speaking on his behalf?  |
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Deleted User Banned     Since: 05-08-06 Last post: None Last view: 6296 days |
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Originally posted by Jomb Neitzluber talks in third person when he's sad. |
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Rom Manic  Since: 12-18-05 From: Detroit, WHAT?! Last post: 6295 days Last view: 6295 days |
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What if Jesus had ED?  |
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geeogree Red Cheep-cheep  Since: 11-17-05 Last post: 6309 days Last view: 6295 days |
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| Neitzluber:
1) Creationism has never depended on a young earth idea. Evolution (a theory in it's own right) does not destroy creationism and creationism does not destroy evolution. 2) 99% of the world's problems are our own fault. War is not Jesus' fault. We kill each other of our own free will and choice. The simple fact is that every human being has the ability to make choices. Every human being is also human and imperfect and therefore makes bad choices sometimes (or a lot of the time). Can you know sweet without bitter? Happy without sad? Joy without sorrow? We must have one to have the other. If we were never sad are we ever happy? If you are never sick, does feeling healthy mean anything? 3)I don't believe the Bible is perfect. The Bible itself doesn't save you. However, the principles it teaches (love thy neighbour, do unto others as you would have them do unto you, charity) are all things that benefit society. I think focusing less on which church is "right" and focusing more on applying the values and qualities that Jesus shows in the Bible are what the Bible is about. 4) This really has 2 points. I'm not really sure what the problem is with being "derived from the Catholic Church". Sure, it has had it's follies and imperfections, but what church/group doesn't? And the Bible has never been completely destroyed. Copies have survived in one form or another over the centuries. A lack of original does not make the Bible itself wrong or a fake. 5) Who says he does? At the same time, why would God communicate with humans? Do you think God communicates with animals? The Bible does call humans sons and daughters of God. When I have a son or daughter, they will look very much like I do. 2 arms, 2 legs, a head, a torso, etc. Sure, we may have slightly different characteristics based on the combining of genetic material from the female contributor, but essentially we look the same. 6) I'm not sure which church you are talking about. I've never heard of a church making their followers bellieve that the sky is white or black or any other colour than blue. It is my personal belief that science and religion will eventually come to an agreement about what is true and what isn't true about the universe. "Scientific proof" is just as fallable as "having faith". If you look at the history of science you can see over and over again theories and ideas that seemed plausible to the current population disproved by later generations as new information came up. Are those people that believed that earth was flat stupid? No, they just hadn't learned enough about the earth to know it is round. How do you know the earth is round? Have you yourself traveled to space and seen that the earth is round? You take that idea on faith that it is true because someone else that you thought was credible has told that to you. 
7) How much power do you think churches actually have? Do you have this terrible fear that the ignorant masses that go to church are going to rise up and take over the world? I highly doubt that there are any more ignorant people going to church than not going to church. There are extremely intelligent people that are also extremely religious. One does not preclude the other. You can be "scientifically" smart, and also religious. I realize this has little to do with Jesus having a child, but I suddenly felt like responding to this thread, and to the particular post that was made. I feel that many of his posts are ignorant of the true reality of churches currently. |
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beneficii Broom Hatter Since: 11-18-05 Last post: 6298 days Last view: 6295 days |
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| Hmm, another bumped thread. This person was working feverishly. |
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