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Posted on 05-26-06 09:55 PM Link | Quote
Well, most system utilities use KiB, MiB, GiB, TiB, etc instead of KB, MB, GB, TB, etc
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Posted on 05-26-06 11:19 PM Link | Quote
Originally posted by NightKev
Alastor, in reality, 1kb = 1024b, because everything in computers is BASE 2!!! 2^x cannot = 1000, EVER, in this universe.
It's called a kilobyte because people like to round and calculating with base 10 is easier.
So, you fail.
9.96578428

You fail at life, the universe, and everything. Stop trying to knock Alastor down a notch because the man's right.

Respect Latin.
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Posted on 05-27-06 12:56 AM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Squash Monster
9.96578428
Respect Latin.

What?
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Posted on 05-27-06 01:35 AM Link | Quote
Yeah seriously, what?
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Posted on 05-27-06 12:56 PM Link | Quote
Originally posted by NightKev
Originally posted by Squash Monster
9.96578428
Respect Latin.

What?

Originally posted by NightKev
2^x cannot = 1000, EVER, in this universe.

2^9.96578428 = 1000. Roughly, I rounded my number for your sanity.


And the roots for those words you use, like kilo and mega? Those come from ancient languages and have well-defined meanings. Well-defined meanings that were invented long before we cared about base 2.
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Since: 11-17-05
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Posted on 05-27-06 02:05 PM Link | Quote
Exactly. To my knowledge, the binary factor names (kibi, mebi, tebi, etc.) come from a contraction of ___ binary byte.
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Posted on 05-27-06 03:13 PM Link | Quote
The thing about language is that common usage becomes right even if it's logically wrong. Kilometer, for example. The first pronunciation listed there doesn't make sense phonetically (compared to centimeter, millimeter, kilogram, etc) but it's so commonly used that it got added to the dictionary.

How about the word "you"? It started out as a plural subject, and now look at how we use it.
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Posted on 05-27-06 03:26 PM Link | Quote
You are referring to the evolution of language, though. That's different.
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Posted on 05-27-06 03:42 PM Link | Quote
Right, this is us resisting the evolution of language.

Resisting it because it's being bloody stupid.
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Posted on 05-27-06 04:25 PM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Squash Monster
Originally posted by NightKev
2^x cannot = 1000, EVER, in this universe.

2^9.96578428 = 1000. Roughly, I rounded my number for your sanity..

When I said 2^x, I guess I should've specified that x = a whole number .
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Posted on 05-27-06 05:40 PM Link | Quote
why not just say 2^n?
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Posted on 05-27-06 07:05 PM Link | Quote
'Cause they're both variables?
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Posted on 05-27-06 08:08 PM Link | Quote
Yeah, but n is used almost exclusively to represent whole numbers.
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Posted on 05-27-06 08:27 PM Link | Quote
Oh. Well I forgot about that.
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Posted on 05-28-06 02:24 AM Link | Quote
I think that really, the most important thing to say in this thread is "who fucking cares?"

Then again, I suppose this is in Craziness for a reason.
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Posted on 05-28-06 03:19 PM Link | Quote
Originally posted by NightKev
Originally posted by Squash Monster
Originally posted by NightKev
2^x cannot = 1000, EVER, in this universe.

2^9.96578428 = 1000. Roughly, I rounded my number for your sanity..

When I said 2^x, I guess I should've specified that x = a whole number .
Whole numbers are only special because we arbitrarilly chose to use a whole-number based system because our minds are too weak to properly handle partial numbers.
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Posted on 05-28-06 08:08 PM Link | Quote
In a computer, bits are atomic. It can't have 9.96578428 bits, and this is something to consider since the unit/prefix in question is generally used in reference to computers.
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Posted on 05-28-06 08:25 PM Link | Quote
Anyway, who cares?

I just use whatever works when I need to be understood.
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Posted on 05-29-06 05:37 PM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Alastor the Stylish
It's like they're totally ignorant. It's especially annoying when they "correct" people who claim they're 1,000, 1,000,000, or whatever.


well, its just like saying 1000 meters instead of a kilometer....

Some people are just not lazy enaugh to do the conversions
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Since: 11-17-05
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Posted on 05-30-06 12:35 AM Link | Quote
The way I see it:

Kilobyte:
Common: 1, 000 Bytes
Actual: 1, 024 Bytes

...And so on.

I don't usually care which was I use them, and sometimes I switch them up several times a day, depending on what is most useful for me. Just like Darkslaya.
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