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Posted on 05-13-06 04:31 PM Link | Quote
We all thought Michael was an Other when he came back too, but now I'm not so sure. He could be being forced to do certain things with Walt as a hostage. Also, that log that they printed out of all the button presses: I bet that has Michael's conversation on the computer in there.....
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Posted on 05-13-06 10:43 PM Link | Quote
I suggested to my IRL friends that Michael would be an other when he came back, and none of them believed me.

But that's true, he could be doing these things to free Walt, though... the Others are "peaceful" people, why would they demand that he kill?
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Posted on 05-15-06 02:48 AM Link | Quote
They may have wanted to punish Anna for killing one of them. Also, I don't think Michael's been converted to an other, I think he's doing it all for Walt's sake. Also, isn't the bearded other actually not bearded and just uses that fake beard that was found in the medical hatch where Claire was being held.
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Posted on 05-15-06 10:41 AM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Lexidalen
But that's true, he could be doing these things to free Walt, though... the Others are "peaceful" people, why would they demand that he kill?

I don't know that they did. It could have been the only way he could see to get Henry out.

Also, were they peaceful when they shot Sawyer and firebombed the boat?
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Posted on 05-16-06 12:34 PM Link | Quote
Yeah, I wouldn't go so far to say they're peaceful. They think they're doing the right thing, but taking a woman away, keeping her drugged up, and then planning on forcibly removing her baby by c-section and leaving her to fend for herself afterwards is not peaceful. No matter how dire the situation is there's really no justifiable reason to keep Claire away from her baby. Also, they do use pretty ruthless tactics in taking people and using people to get what they want.
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Posted on 05-16-06 01:27 PM Link | Quote
Off-topic to the current conversation, but the season is over in two weeks
Then we wait until Spetember for season 3, and October for the extended season 2 DVD set.

The Others are not peaceful, it's not possible.
Remember at "the line"...
Mr. Happy/Zeke/Bearded Guy: "You cross this line, we go from misunderstanding, to... something else"

Doesn't that sound peaceful...
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Posted on 05-16-06 07:52 PM Link | Quote
Originally posted by NSNick
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But that's true, he could be doing these things to free Walt, though... the Others are "peaceful" people, why would they demand that he kill?

I don't know that they did. It could have been the only way he could see to get Henry out.

Also, were they peaceful when they shot Sawyer and firebombed the boat?

Wait, didn't Ana/Echo shoot Sawyer, when they got captured?

I was discussing this with some friends last week... compared to what we've done to them, what have the others done to us? They kidnap, but they don't kill. We kill. They've gotta be pissed.
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Posted on 05-16-06 08:11 PM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Lexidalen
Wait, didn't Ana/Echo shoot Sawyer, when they got captured?

I was discussing this with some friends last week... compared to what we've done to them, what have the others done to us? They kidnap, but they don't kill. We kill. They've gotta be pissed.


They shot Sawyer. They kidnap children. They tried to kill Charlie. They are hostile. They have a superiority complex.

They have done enough to warrent the death of their members. Jack and the rest didn't ask to be stranded on the island yet they must cope. And deal with a bunch of psycho's at it.

So, we killed a few of their guys. In self-defense

Even if their intentions were to not kill, they attacked.

They kidnapped Claire, Charlie, Walt, and Alex and a few others. They tried to take Ecko but he defended himself.

Ethan tried to kill Charlie. All because Jack and the others were following him.

It's my belief that both sides are at fault. Ana Lucia killed Shannon. Rousseau has done some stupid stuff. The original survivors have done some stuff as well. Etc... The Others are equally guilty. They haven't killed. That we know of. But they have tried. And that is enough to make them 'dangerous'
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Posted on 05-16-06 08:22 PM Link | Quote
They shot Sawyer? I could have sworn that was Ana Lucia, when they were thrown into the pit.

But even then, they didn't kill him. A shot to the shoulder won't kill you, it's one of the safest places to shoot someone. But I forgot about Charlie being hung like that... I guess that's strike one.

I really don't think the self defense argument works, because in a way, that's what they're doing too. The children thing, okay that's wrong, but they aren't killing the kids. In their eyes, we've killed multiple others, and they haven't killed any. But I'm sure I'm overlooking something.

Then there's the whole argument that it's all an experiment, which... changes everything.
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Posted on 05-16-06 08:37 PM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Lexidalen
They shot Sawyer? I could have sworn that was Ana Lucia, when they were thrown into the pit.

But even then, they didn't kill him. A shot to the shoulder won't kill you, it's one of the safest places to shoot someone. But I forgot about Charlie being hung like that... I guess that's strike one.

I really don't think the self defense argument works, because in a way, that's what they're doing too. The children thing, okay that's wrong, but they aren't killing the kids. In their eyes, we've killed multiple others, and they haven't killed any. But I'm sure I'm overlooking something.

Then there's the whole argument that it's all an experiment, which... changes everything.


They kidnapped adults. We know that children they maintain alive but there is no proof that they the adults they kidnapped are still alive.

They didn't kill Sawyer. Whoopedoo. They still shot him. It's basically this... They started the whole mess of things. They kidnapped Claire. They tried to take Aaron. They tried to kill Charlie.They kidnapped Walt. They shot Sawyer. They destroyed the raft. They did it all. They have more than one strike against them.

Even if they have not killed anyone yet, that still doesn't mean that the things they have done is not equal or greater to what the survivors have done.

I really could care less concerning any theories about the Others. Still doesn't take off the fact that they are people with a few screws missing.

I don't buy into the whole Others and "self-defense"
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Posted on 05-19-06 03:40 PM Link | Quote
Yeah, the people that crashed in the plane didn't go out and start attacking the others. The bearded dude said that they didn't like how the crash victims were hunting their food and taking their fruit, but hey, just cause you got trapped on the island first doesn't mean that you can keep all the resources to yourself and kill everyone else.

Interesting idea and I'm begining to believe it more and more is that the island is purgatory. It makes sense because almost everyone on the island had a bad past (Still haven't figured out what Jack and Locke did, but I'm sure that'll pop up eventually). If you look at what's going on they're all being tested. And when they pass their tests they get out (either by death or being taken by the others). The others said that they take the good people, and the people that they took right after the crash were children and "good" adults. If you look at most of the people that die it's after they've changed. Shanon went out looking for Walt which showed she cared about someone else more than herself. Anna died after she couldn't kill Henry. Haven't figured out why Libby died and Boon just seemed to have died after a little bit of time (which makes sense because he didn't seem to do anything that bad and just had to spend some time there). That would make the Others the testers of the people, they present a situation that forces the true character of the person to be expressed and if that character is good then they pass, otherwise they stay on the island. There are definately some holes, and rather large ones, in this theory but right now I think it works for the most part.

Question: How many of you watch LOST by getting it from iTunes?
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Posted on 05-19-06 08:13 PM Link | Quote
Thing is, that theory of yours, it has been dismissed already.

Wiki has a section on theories

Here is the article concerning the Purgatory theory.

Not saying it isn't possible. It has many signs pointing that this theory works, but still...
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Posted on 05-20-06 02:46 PM Link | Quote
Next week is the finale... I'm almost dreading it. Because we all know that the finales do nothing but beat our brains out for a few months until the show comes back.

There are so many theories, I try not to think about it much. We really don't know the answer yet, I'm just gonna let the show remain a mystery the way it should be.

But the previews for next week say that "all our questions will be answered..."
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Posted on 05-22-06 02:32 AM Link | Quote
Damn, I'm counting the minutes until the finale, and after, I'm gonna be dreading it's over Season 2 DVD won't be out until late September or Early October...
No Lost for 3 or 4 months Unless I want to watch Season 1 again

Next season will be run with only one big break in the middle!
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Posted on 05-22-06 10:33 AM Link | Quote
Nooooo, I'm going to miss the finale! I'm working until 9:30, then my dad is coming down here.

I'm going to have to shelter myself from spoilers, then watch it online, I guess. *pout*
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Posted on 05-22-06 05:36 PM Link | Quote
I'm gonna miss it too, unless I find a way to get off work an hour early. I need to think of a really good excuse to tell my manager. She doesn't have a TV, she doesn't even know what Lost is.
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Posted on 05-24-06 03:48 PM Link | Quote
Ouch, that's gonna suck, I would die if I missed it, only Americans can watch it online although I could always download it, but the last time I downloaded it, it was out of sync. You hear the gun fire, then Michael pulls the trigger

Back on topic, someone gets badly injured tonite, and we don't get to hear what happens to them until September
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Posted on 05-24-06 06:01 PM Link | Quote
Eh, I'm going to record it just in case I don't get out of work, but I won't be able to watch it until tomorrow if that's the case. And I can guarantee one thing. If I go to school tomorrow without watching it, it WILL be ruined by the time I get home.
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Posted on 05-24-06 06:47 PM Link | Quote
I'm going to try to not miss this episode.

Danielle reminded me earlier today, and I have a sign on the TV to help jog my memory.

Also, my cellphone has the alarm set.

And Danielle will send me a PM.

Trust me, all of this is needed. I have poor memory for such things.
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Posted on 05-24-06 06:54 PM Link | Quote
I have a bad memory as well, but that'd never happen to me.
I go into the 12 hour countdown on Wednesday morning.
It's kind of sad, really...
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