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Christmas Tree or Holiday Tree?
Supposedly on the city of Boston website called the annual tree lighting ceremony a "the annual holiday tree lighting ceremony" but there is some hoopla over it from the people, the mayor, and even the ACLU
Christmas Tree
 
91.3%, 21 votes
Holiday Tree
 
4.3%, 1 vote
Other
 
4.3%, 1 vote
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neotransotaku

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Posted on 11-26-05 03:32 AM Link | Quote
A waste of time and money.
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Posted on 11-26-05 03:50 AM Link | Quote
Some basic facts for ya.

2+2=4

The world is round.

That's a fucking christmas tree. What's the big deal? =/
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Posted on 11-26-05 03:58 AM Link | Quote
That is a Christmas Tree if I ever saw one. Holiday Tree just doesn't have that certain touch to the phrase...
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Posted on 11-26-05 03:59 AM Link | Quote
I...think...he's trying to make one of those hilarious

"OMG THEY R TAKEN GOD OUT OF A COMMERZIAL HOLIDAYZ!" statements I've heard so often.

God's got nothing to do with Chirstmas anymore. Christmas is commercial, first-and-foremost. The faithful will praise the Lord. Let all the others have it for what it is...a holiday. That's a Christmas tree to me, to someone else it is a Holiday Tree. But rather...I see it is a debauchery of what should be considered a sanctified ceremonial holiday.
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Posted on 11-26-05 04:04 AM Link | Quote
*Tamarin Calanis shrugs

Seriously, name one Christian holiday that isn't commercially exploited in some manner. Granted, I only celebrate these holidays because I still live with my parents and grandmother so I have no choice, and maybe there's one that I don't know about. But really, it's the natural direction of business to forget about the religious signifigance of a holiday and milk it for all it's worth, so I'd be amazed if there's still one they haven't touched.
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Posted on 11-26-05 04:17 AM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Tamarin Calanis
*Tamarin Calanis shrugs

Seriously, name one Christian holiday that isn't commercially exploited in some manner. Granted, I only celebrate these holidays because I still live with my parents and grandmother so I have no choice, and maybe there's one that I don't know about. But really, it's the natural direction of business to forget about the religious signifigance of a holiday and milk it for all it's worth, so I'd be amazed if there's still one they haven't touched.

Name a Christian ANYTHING that isn't exploited (starts with the music and moves to clothes).

I prefer "Christmas Tree" over "Holiday Tree." Too many syllables.
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Posted on 11-26-05 04:22 AM Link | Quote
Sure. The feast day of St. Michael I've got lots of holidays that aren't exploited. Want some more?
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Posted on 11-26-05 04:34 AM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Ziff
Sure. The feast day of St. Michael I've got lots of holidays that aren't exploited. Want some more?
Okay, sorry about my previous statement, it was one of those "I'll say this because that's what everyone is saying" things. Like right now, I'm agreeing with you.
I guess I was only thinking of holidays I only knew well, which happen to be very commercial. But I still want to stick to what I said. When you see a Jesus action figure, you just don't feel the same anymore... This is really sad. (cool, I made a smilely a link)

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Seeing as how (afaik) no other holiday involves a decorated tree, calling a Christmas tree a "holiday tree" makes about as much sense as calling a menorah a "holiday candelabrum".

Really though, the only thing a Christmas tree has to do with Christianity, is that they both have the word "Christ" in them. It's really just another Pagan ritual assimilated into Christian culture, if the Christian Right really wants to preserve Christmas as a Christian holiday, they should drop the whole tree concept altogether.


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Posted on 11-26-05 10:03 AM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Ziff


God's got nothing to do with Chirstmas anymore. Christmas is commercial, first-and-foremost.


No freakin' shit. Iīm not that religious so I donīt read the bible or praise God that much but I know why it was celebrated in the behinning.

And thatīs a fucking christmas tree.

"The feast day of St. Michael "

Uh, when is that?
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Posted on 11-26-05 11:21 AM Link | Quote
Pentecost, Ascencion, Advent (advent du'nt git 'sploited cuz them's already 'sploitin' x-muss when advent comes 'round) - can't remember seeing them be exploited by commercial institutions.
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Posted on 11-26-05 01:44 PM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Ziff
I...think...he's trying to make one of those hilarious. "OMG THEY R TAKEN GOD OUT OF A COMMERZIAL HOLIDAYZ!" statements I've heard so often.


if 'he' is referring to me...you are wrong, I could care less what they called the tree. Yes, I too would call it a christmas tree. I just wondered why someone would make the effort to say holiday tree when 99% of the world thinks of it as a christmas tree and why there is even news stories on the fact that that someone decided to call a christmas tree a holiday tree.
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Originally posted by Ran-chan
Originally posted by Ziff
"The feast day of St. Michael "

Uh, when is that?
You know why you don't know (nor do I)? Because it's not commercial. It's not endorsed neither does anyone sell any products for it (I'm pretty sure people do, but they don't go over board like they do with holiday pumpkins, holiday turkeys, or holiday trees).
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Posted on 11-26-05 02:15 PM Link | Quote
Although it really isn't a huge thing anymore, nonetheless it is on Sept. 29. It is celebrated quite widely in the Toronto Catholic community.

I'd honestly like to see Lent get commercialized. It'd be sacreligiously funny.
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Posted on 11-26-05 02:15 PM Link | Quote
Originally posted by spel werdz rite
Name a Christian ANYTHING that isn't exploited (starts with the music and moves to clothes).

I prefer "Christmas Tree" over "Holiday Tree." Too many syllables.



Uhh... well a good church doesn't sell out.

... yeah, that's about it.

Christmas Tree, they can fuck off and stop trying to change tradition.

If someone finds something offensive, that isn't directed at them in any way, shape, or form, they could just ignore it.
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Posted on 11-26-05 02:25 PM Link | Quote
I think Christmas is fun. Let me have my fun. I don't even see it as a religious holiday anymore, I like the fact that once a year I can celebrate being able to give stuff away and watch everyone for once be nice and charitable to others. Except where Christmas brings out the best in people it also brings out the worst...
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Posted on 11-26-05 04:57 PM Link | Quote
You say Christmas, I say X-Mas. And that thing is an X-Mas tree.
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I call it "bad html;" no alt text.


Mr. Z: I'd honestly like to see Lent get commercialized. It'd be sacreligiously funny.


Coming this summer, Hillary Duff's "The Diary of Anne Frank."


Alastor the Stylish: You say Christmas, I say X-Mas. And that thing is an X-Mas tree.


Do you mean pronounced "exmiss?" Same here, but you're wrong; exmas trees are palm trees, remember?
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Posted on 11-27-05 12:01 AM Link | Quote
I Would call it a Christmas Tree of course....
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