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| Acmlm's Board - I3 Archive - World Affairs/Debate - Thoughts on gas prices |
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Deleted User Banned                 Since: 05-08-06 Last post: None Last view: 6296 days |
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| I heard on the radio today that we could drill in our own country... we have more oil in Colorado, Wyoming, and Utah... then Saudi Arabia has!
...and I heard rumors of Alaska having a big supply of it as well, but do you think we should or not? ...if not please explain why... ...if so please explain why anyway... 
I was thinking about it, and I think that of we keep buying from Saudi, then isn't our money going over to the middle east, and helping the very country we are against?? ...I was just thinking about it was all... I personally believe drilling over on our land would be a more ideal solution to all of this, but that's just me...  |
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Jomb Deddorokku       Since: 12-03-05 From: purgatory Last post: 6298 days Last view: 6298 days |
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| What we need to be doing is investing big money into renewable non-fossil fuel types of energy, rather than continueing to be dependant on a dirty type of energy which will eventually dry up. | |||
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Originally posted by Jomb You mean like coal? I heard something about that they could make coal be our new source... |
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Wurl  Since: 11-17-05 Last post: 6337 days Last view: 6337 days |
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| For one, U.S. gas prices are pretty (as in really, really) low as compared to other industrialized nations. Yeah it's a bitch to pay, but you could walk, take the bus, ect. instead. Secondly, drilling for oil in Colorado, Alaska, Wyoming and Utah would not only be enviromentally un-healthy, but would also require vast amounts of capital. Constructing oil drills would, most likely, be expensive enough to make little difference in prices, or even raise prices. | |||
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Originally posted by Wurl I'm not being a dick at all... and I'm asking this politely... Would it really be a huge effect on our people if we drilled in our country, eviroment-wise? Would if effect us all dramatically? another question (with all due respect): Are animals more important than us actual human beings? And to keep on sending money overseas to our very enemy? Did you know our own government keeps more money earned from gas prices than the actual oil companies....?? I found that out today.... I was like "Whoa!"  I about had heart failure...
My only concern is that I'm (as a working man) going to be paying to drive my truck to construction sites, that can vary... I'm actually scared.... I'm scared because if we don't do something I'm only going to be paying to drive to work... I only put 20$ in at a time instead of 70$, because I can't afford it... My daddy doesn't pay for everything for me like some people today, I have to earn it all for myself... and I want to start a family soon... am I going to be able to do that? I would say if you weighed out all the problems, then I think that drilling here in USA would be the better solution, but I'm not being a dick... and I appreciate your input, because it's healthy for us to talk about economical issues... |
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Jomb Deddorokku Since: 12-03-05 From: purgatory Last post: 6298 days Last view: 6298 days |
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| I'm also a working man, i have a small business, i barely get by right now. I also have to drive regularly to earn my meager money, so the cost of gas is a big deal to me.
I said renewable non-fossil fuel... where did you get coal out of that?  |
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Billiards Koopa Red Paratroopa  Since: 04-21-06 From: Far away from a carnival, one ride tried to kill me (no lie) Last post: 6503 days Last view: 6503 days |
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Originally posted by GhostOriginally posted by Wurl To answer our questions: A: Depends on the are drilled. B: NO, no species is better or more important than the other. |
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Deleted User Banned Since: 05-08-06 Last post: None Last view: 6296 days |
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Originally posted by Jomb Oh my bad!!! I didn't see the "Non" part... whoops!!!... :LOL: |
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mattp Red Paratroopa Since: 03-04-06 Last post: 6560 days Last view: 6560 days |
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| Saudi Arabia is not 'our enemy'. Our enemy is the organizations and ideologies that exist inbetween nations ( which is why our conventional methods of warfare are failing ). | |||
Skreename Giant Red Paratroopa Since: 11-18-05 Last post: 6302 days Last view: 6295 days |
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| That question about whether animal lives are more important than human ones... Isn't entirely valid. If we don't drill there, our life STYLE may be hurt a bit; if we do, their LIVES will. What's more important: Living in non-self-sufficient comfort, or living at all? The concern about drilling in Alaska is that it's in a wildlife preserve; as in, a place the animals are meant to be able to live without being hunted/etc.
It's too easy to oversimplify things in the matter. That's... a bad thing, needless to say. |
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Young Guru Snifit  Since: 11-18-05 From: Notre Dame, IN Last post: 6302 days Last view: 6295 days |
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| I'm in the camp of ditching oil, or at least greatly reducing our consumption of it and replacing most of our energy needs with clean, renewable energies. Now, the only problem is there are only two organizations that have the capitol to switch energy sources, the government, or the oil companies. And we all know that corporation is about making money, and switching off the money train of oil to renewables like nuclear is going to put quite the dent in their profits for the next decade or so. But we eventually are going to need to do it, and wouldn't it just be great if corporations actually did something that considered people over money. Oh well, I don't see it happening for a long while, but hopefully one day it will, as I hope that one day people stop being utterly terrified of nuclear power. | |||
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Skreename Giant Red Paratroopa Since: 11-18-05 Last post: 6302 days Last view: 6295 days |
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| This is mainly me being nitpicky, but nuclear isn't really renewable. It's just a far longer-lasting one... And it's impractical to use in cars, too. It is however safe to use for power and whatnot. | |||
Arwon Bazu Since: 11-18-05 From: Randwick, Sydney, NSW, Australia Last post: 6297 days Last view: 6297 days |
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| Higher oil prices are good. The higher the price, the more economically viable other energy sources are.
80 dollars a barrel or more makes a whole range of alternate energy sources viable, both in terms of more-difficult-to-access types of fossil fuels (such as tar sands) and the further development of various renewables sources. And just to build on Wurl's point about prices at the pump, in the UK they're paying the equivalent of US $6 or $7 a gallon, and it's even higher in other places. |
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Sinfjotle Lordly? No, not quite.  Since: 11-17-05 From: Kansas Last post: 6297 days Last view: 6296 days |
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| It isn't really about how much oil we get, it's that we don't have enough factories to turn it all into gas.
Go go EPA! |
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Tarale    2710 Affected by 'Princess Bitch-Face Syndrome' ++++!! Persona non grata Since: 11-17-05 From: Adelaide, Australia Last post: 6295 days Last view: 6295 days |
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| Well, oil prices are pretty high here in Australia too. I'm lucky -- I guess -- in that my car is not registered and that I don't drive it, but I understand how such things are making things difficult for most families and such around here.
On some level, I dont' really mind petrol prices being so expensive -- I'd rather see a bigger push for renewable / alternate energy sources to be made available. On the other hand, I really do sympathise with those who are currently in difficult financial situations thanks to the current pricing.  It's not like most families get a choice regarding what powers their vehicles.
I hope that all of this leads to a solution that is not based on a fossil fuel like we currently rely on AND creates a better solution for the average person/family who doesn't have money to burn on simple things like getting the kids to school, going to work, and doing the shopping... However, I don't see this outcome as being likely any time in the near future. |
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Black Lord + Flurry Since: 11-17-05 From: Where indians still roam... Last post: 6297 days Last view: 6298 days |
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| Well, I don't want to start rumors, but I remember reading or hearing somewhere, that Mobil whatever, the big oil company, had reported their biggest profit of any company ever in the first quarter of '06, and the last quarter of '05, they did the same thing, so they just topped their last quarter. Makes you wonder if, they're just overpricing to make a little extra dough, and they use whatever they may as an excuse. | |||
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Ziff B2BB BACKTOBASICSBITCHES Since: 11-18-05 From: A room Last post: 6295 days Last view: 6295 days |
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| You're not starting any rumours. It's true. | |||
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Reshaper256 190 Since: 11-17-05 From: United States Last post: 6338 days Last view: 6295 days |
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| Of course it's true. As long as there's no majority in congress that will allow an investigation into price gouging, there's going to be price gouging. If they're really raising oil-prices in an amount proportionate to how much the cost for them is going up per barrel, would they be making such huge record profits? (edited by Reshaper256 on 05-13-06 02:14 PM) |
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Randy53215 Melon Bug Since: 11-17-05 From: Greenfield, Wisconsin (U.S.A) Last post: 6296 days Last view: 6295 days |
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Originally posted by Black Lord + Along to go with that my friends grandpa drives the tanker trucks and he says there is no shortage whatsoever. So that sounds about right. Greedy fucks. And last I remember we arnt against Saudi Arabia... care to explain that? (edited by Randy53215 on 05-13-06 08:44 PM) |
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Snow Tomato Snap Dragon  Since: 12-31-05 From: NYC Last post: 6316 days Last view: 6302 days |
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| I just had a thought about something. Don't oil companies kind of have a monopoly on us? They are the only option when it comes to powering our cars... there's no competition. Isn't that by definition a monopoly?
Just a thought. |
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