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Randy53215

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Posted on 05-04-06 03:22 PM Link | Quote
Net censorship spreads worldwide

Discuss this.... now.
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Posted on 05-04-06 05:58 PM Link | Quote
Okay, I don't mean to seem terse. But OLD NEWS. Look at the countries who are doing this:
Egypt, Libya, the Maldives, Syria, Tunisia, China, Burma, Cuba, Iran, Libya, Nepal, North Korea, Saudi Arabia, Syria, Turkmenistan, and Vietnam

Is it any real surprise that they would censor the Internet before it hits their citizens' browsers? I mean come on, these countries aren't necessarily known to be gigantic pillars of personal freedom and liberty for all.

Edit: Ugh and I'm not sure, but I bet this goes in World Affairs.
Edit 2: I meant to type "pillars", not "towers". Feh.


(edited by Thayer on 05-04-06 04:59 PM)
(edited by Thayer on 05-04-06 05:06 PM)
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Posted on 05-04-06 06:03 PM Link | Quote
I think it's fine here.

And... yeah, what thayer said. Those countries don't really surprise me. For the United States, at least, I very seriously doubt this will ever happen.
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Posted on 05-04-06 06:53 PM Link | Quote
I dunno, a bill to "protect children from pornography" was recently passed, which could lead to further censorship. And, if you didn't know, the U.S. already blocks "terrorist websites" such as Al-Jazeera.com
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Posted on 05-04-06 07:01 PM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Wurl
I dunno, a bill to "protect children from pornography" was recently passed, which could lead to further censorship. And, if you didn't know, the U.S. already blocks "terrorist websites" such as Al-Jazeera.com


No hypen, Wurl.
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Posted on 05-04-06 08:50 PM Link | Quote

Ooh, that sucks for us men................
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Posted on 05-04-06 09:17 PM Link | Quote
Originally posted by ||EyeL E Ss||

Ooh, that sucks for us men................


Which one of the countries do you live in?
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Posted on 05-04-06 09:28 PM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Thayer
Originally posted by Wurl
I dunno, a bill to "protect children from pornography" was recently passed, which could lead to further censorship. And, if you didn't know, the U.S. already blocks "terrorist websites" such as Al-Jazeera.com


No hypen, Wurl.

Wow, I tried in 2002 or 2003 and the site was blocked. It may have changed recently; I know Al-Jazeera was picked up for satellite TV recently.
At least Al-Qaeda site is still censored.

The alternate site, too
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Posted on 05-04-06 10:30 PM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Wurl
Originally posted by Thayer
Originally posted by Wurl
I dunno, a bill to "protect children from pornography" was recently passed, which could lead to further censorship. And, if you didn't know, the U.S. already blocks "terrorist websites" such as Al-Jazeera.com


No hypen, Wurl.

Wow, I tried in 2002 or 2003 and the site was blocked. It may have changed recently; I know Al-Jazeera was picked up for satellite TV recently.
At least Al-Qaeda site is still censored.

The alternate site, too


The first one looks like a spoof Web site. Couldn't look at the other one, but I doubt they'd use such an obvious Web site address.
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Posted on 05-05-06 06:52 PM Link | Quote

Thayer, I was making a joke...
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Posted on 05-06-06 07:34 PM Link | Quote
Let's see if these censors apply in Canada.
Originally posted by Thayer
Originally posted by Wurl
I dunno, a bill to "protect children from pornography" was recently passed, which could lead to further censorship. And, if you didn't know, the U.S. already blocks "terrorist websites" such as Al-Jazeera.com


No hypen, Wurl.

I see this site fine (and laugh at their use of a radio button when there's only one item to select), but...

Originally posted by Wurl
At least Al-Qaeda site is still censored.

I don't know what to make of this. The logo says "hacked, tracked and 0wned by the USA", there's a lot of text, and after about 10 seconds it redirects me to some other site.
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Posted on 05-07-06 07:41 AM Link | Quote
We actually have a perfect global pre-3rd Reich situation right there.

Economical stagnation.
Diffuse "threats" that are quickly blown up by politicians ("International Terrorism" nowadays, "The Jews and Communists" back then).
People being not content with the results of democracy.
A call for "return to old values".
People willing to trade social and technological progress for safety.

Most arguments that were brought up by the Nazis when they cut press freedom, like governments are attempting to cut internet information exchange freedom nowadays, interestingly are very similar to those of today.
Also, lesser countries with liberal internet policies won't make up much against the fact that the largest countries all have released far-going internet supervision laws to "fight terrorism". Right now, a ban on encryption for VoIP is in discussion in Germany, for instance, after they passed a law that forces VoIP providers to redirect all conversations over their relays and keep them stored for 6 months or something to make them available to police and anti-terror agencies.

The situation is more critical than one might think. Only it will be too late when the mass of the people recognizes there were no terrorists in their AIM buddylist.
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Posted on 05-07-06 09:16 AM Link | Quote
Originally posted by HyperMackerel
Let's see if these censors apply in Canada.
Originally posted by Thayer
Originally posted by Wurl
I dunno, a bill to "protect children from pornography" was recently passed, which could lead to further censorship. And, if you didn't know, the U.S. already blocks "terrorist websites" such as Al-Jazeera.com


No hypen, Wurl.

I see this site fine (and laugh at their use of a radio button when there's only one item to select), but...

Originally posted by Wurl
At least Al-Qaeda site is still censored.

I don't know what to make of this. The logo says "hacked, tracked and 0wned by the USA", there's a lot of text, and after about 10 seconds it redirects me to some other site.

Read the text, that guy named "Jon" noticed that the contact information with wich the site was registered was not real, so he mailed the whoever hosted that site and got it kicked offline, then he re-registered that site under his contact information.
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Posted on 05-07-06 12:40 PM Link | Quote
Yeah, those were the cuckoo countries listed in that article. North Korea was communist, I'm not surprised by it's net censorship. I agree with Danielle, I doubt it will hit the US.
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Posted on 05-07-06 04:30 PM Link | Quote
Egypt, Libya, the Maldives, Syria, Tunisia, China, Burma, Cuba, Iran, Libya, Nepal, North Korea, Saudi Arabia, Syria, Turkmenistan, and Vietnam

Out of those countries, the only ones that surprise me are Egypt and Tunisia... I mean, they're not perfect countries but politically might be a little more stable than, I dunno, the handful of communist countries listed in there (or the isolationists in the case of the North Koreans).
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Posted on 05-07-06 06:53 PM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Coby
Read the text, that guy named "Jon" noticed that the contact information with wich the site was registered was not real, so he mailed the whoever hosted that site and got it kicked offline, then he re-registered that site under his contact information.

Ah, I didn't get that far before it redirected me.
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Posted on 05-07-06 07:24 PM Link | Quote
Originally posted by HyperMackerel
Originally posted by Coby
Read the text, that guy named "Jon" noticed that the contact information with wich the site was registered was not real, so he mailed the whoever hosted that site and got it kicked offline, then he re-registered that site under his contact information.

Ah, I didn't get that far before it redirected me.



And I actually read his whole story.
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Posted on 05-07-06 07:48 PM Link | Quote
Wow... that system in Turkmenistan sounds REALLY harsh...

At any rate, the article is complaining about a loss of privacy in places in which "privacy" doesn't exist, anyway. It's irritating, yes, but expected.
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Posted on 05-08-06 02:43 AM Link | Quote
What next? You're caught with a porno pop-up and your hand gets chopped off?
I've heard of similar articles about these ludicrous restrictions... one of them involves television.

Enjoy the luxury of flipping past commercials while you still can. It's rumored that advertising agents will do this. When a commercial break comes up, the channel will freeze so you'll have to wait until the show returns before you can flip the channel. Customers will have to pay an additional fee to flip past those cheesy ads.
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Posted on 05-08-06 02:51 AM Link | Quote
I don't think that's possible on current televisions, and I can see a MASSIVE decline in television watching if such a thing comes to pass causing everyone to get a new TV.

Actually, seeing as the actual cable (and satellite) providers tend to get more money directly from the customers than from advertisers, it seems rather unlikely to come to pass.
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