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| Acmlm's Board - I3 Archive - World Affairs/Debate - War with Iran? |
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Randy53215 Melon Bug                    Since: 11-17-05 From: Greenfield, Wisconsin (U.S.A) Last post: 6296 days Last view: 6295 days |
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| Do you think we will have to go to war with Iran. Lately they have been threatening Isreal. Whats your position? | |||
Sin Dogan   860  Uoodo Original Blend Armored Trooper Votoms Canned Coffee! Since: 11-17-05 Last post: 6300 days Last view: 6299 days |
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| Just leave them alone and nobody will be attacked. Attack, and we will get hit. It's as simple as that. They are developing nuclear technology which even the Ayatollah Kamanei stated "Iran's nuclear capability is one example of various scientific capabilities in the country. The Islamic Republic of Iran is prepared to transfer the experience, knowledge and technology of its scientists,". Frankly, I don't like Ahmadinejad in the sense that he sullies the name of Islam(nothing new) and sounds fairly radical. But they're obviously not stupid enough to attack us with the whole world looking at them. C'mon. They're not really a threat and if we get pulled into a war with them, we're fucked.(meaning it's a retarded idea) (edited by Captain Subtext on 05-03-06 03:47 PM) |
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Ziff B2BB BACKTOBASICSBITCHES Since: 11-18-05 From: A room Last post: 6295 days Last view: 6295 days |
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| Plus they're a fairly well equipped nation in terms of military strength. They would fall in a matter of weeks if the US and a small coalition of other similarily powerful nations were to attack, but the casualties would be enormous for both sides. In addition to that this is a hornet's nest issue - Russia and China (two major emerging economies) are both on the side of Iran. Nothing can get through the Security Council with them blocking motions. That's the skippy of the situation. Now, to say that we ought to let Iran build a bomb...I say we shouldn't. I'm actually quite against the proliferation of nuclear weapons in powder keg areas. Besides, a peaceful nuclear program that has enough centrifuges and enough equipment to enrich uranium to a point where it can be used in reactors is a fairly simple request to fulfill. Even if they had the nuclear technology to generate the power it would take quite a while to get their scientists to fully devise and test a nuclear device.
Besides, the man power required and the risk of a missile strike on the Persian Gulf fleet within the opening minutes of a conflict pretty much negate the gains of stopping them from attaining nuclear power generation. The Natanz complex and others like it may seem big and scary, but they're all across the world. |
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Cirvania Cyball I guess this is as close as Xkeeper will get to spell it right. :< Since: 11-17-05 From: The Island of Puerto Rico. Last post: 6297 days Last view: 6296 days |
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| By trying to forbid Iran from developing nuclear technology, the US has proved to be the greatest hypocrites in the world. We don't want Iran to develop nuclear weapons, but we have warheads up the ass.
Jeez, Bush, let Iran have their stupid nuclear tech. You'll avoid unnecesary conflict and bloodshed. It's not like the minute we let up on them they'll go "HAHA WE HAVE ATOMIC WEAPONS NOW! PREPARE TO GET NUKED!" and launch a nuclear missile barrage on us. |
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| I was for the current war, but I must say that I really think we should leave Iran alone... if they want to start something with Isreal then we should leave it alone... we're not responsible to babysit everyone, y'know? So I will be against the war in Iran, if there will be one... | |||
Lemurian Red Paragoomba  Since: 04-30-06 Last post: 6309 days Last view: 6295 days |
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| Well, USA has a thinner reason to go to war against Iran than they had with Iraq, so I'm gonna be against this one, just as I was with Iraq. | |||
Danielle  6730 Administratorrrr HELLO THERE   Since: 11-17-05 From: California Rate me ^_^ Last post: 6296 days Last view: 6295 days |
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| They haven't done a thing to the US, or any of the allies the US might have.
People have the misconception that we have to step in if there's so much as a mutter of disagreement between two counties, whether we're involved or not. Just stay out of it unless it's really a problem. America is always trying to be the hero/flex it's military muscle, but... why? It only kills people. =\ |
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Wurl Since: 11-17-05 Last post: 6337 days Last view: 6337 days |
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| Ha, Danielle, we're always involved in some way. I don't think it's flexing muscels for the hell of it, but rather to protect our best interests. America (or any other nation) has never fought a "meaningless" war; it always has benefit to those in power.
I do have to say that I'm very worried war with Iran. We have leaders advocating nuclear strikes as do they. Plus the fact that U.S. forces are spread thin and the fact that Britan has declared that it will have no part in war with Iran leads me to believe in the possibility of a draft. War with Iran could lead to war with China and/or Russia, which would almost certainly warrant a draft of U.S. citizens. I only have 9 months before I have to register for the draft and I can't really say I would be happy to fight in this war. |
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Israel would kick their ass anyway. I did a report on Israel, they are certainly able to hold their own in combat. |
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Wurl Since: 11-17-05 Last post: 6337 days Last view: 6337 days |
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| Israel has the third largest army, I believe. | |||
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Randy53215 Melon Bug Since: 11-17-05 From: Greenfield, Wisconsin (U.S.A) Last post: 6296 days Last view: 6295 days |
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Originally posted by Wurl There will never be a draft. Do some research on a draft and see what comes up for the results anyways. Also I think it will be solved the correct way, diplomacy! |
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Originally posted by Cirvante Last I checked the US wasn't threatening to wipe out a rival nation. Seems like a good reason why Iran shouldn't be allowed to have nuclear weapons. OH WELL. Originally posted by Danielle Not sure about you, but last I checked, Israel is a US ally, and I don't feel comfortable letting a country have nuclear weapons when its leader has: 1. exp 2. exp 3. exp 4. Has continued a line of repressive policies against the personal liberties of its state. 5. Has incarcerated (and continues to retain) foreign citizens who have exp |
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Sin Dogan 860 Uoodo Original Blend Armored Trooper Votoms Canned Coffee! Since: 11-17-05 Last post: 6300 days Last view: 6299 days |
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Guess we shouldn't let China have nukes either.  |
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Originally posted by Captain Subtext Yeah, and we shouldn't. Too bad they already do, right? |
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Randy53215 Melon Bug Since: 11-17-05 From: Greenfield, Wisconsin (U.S.A) Last post: 6296 days Last view: 6295 days |
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| Why is it bad to let China have nuclear weapons? Its not like there going "RED BUTTON OMG *PRESS*." I honestly think China is a country we can trust, we both do a lot for eachother. Grant it I dont think any countries really should have nuclear weapons because as its said "one goes off, the rest go off." I am glad the US has hidden missle locations and as well as a thing like the patriot missle, it basically destroys nuclear weapons instead of missles that are launched at us. Iran just needs to get there shit together. | |||
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Originally posted by Randy53215 We do a lot for each other, but China's government is particularly repressive, and I'm concerned about their military buildup as well as their Russian-shared support for Iran. |
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I saw in a magazine, a military affiliated truck [those really big ones] that was carrying a nuclear missile, and I'd say it was almost as big as the truck... Nuclear power is a very dangerous matter. The fact that a country could use one makes us completely powerless. Unless negotiating succeeds, we're screwed. It's as simple as using chemical waste... Pick some up from old chemical weapon stocks, and it could end life as we know it. Put some power behind the explosion [meaning, actually BUILD a missile], and we have one fucked up Planet. Nuclear warfare is something I wish never happens, EVER. |
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Cirvania Cyball I guess this is as close as Xkeeper will get to spell it right. :< Since: 11-17-05 From: The Island of Puerto Rico. Last post: 6297 days Last view: 6296 days |
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Originally posted by Wurl If what Wurl says comes to be true, we could be facing World War III.  |
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I would do the jail time......some may say, you traitor....... well, I didn't exactly HAVE myself [In easier words, give myself life], and I don't plan on moving to any other country so, I should be able to choose.... [I'm a gonna make a thread about that....  ] |
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Skreename Giant Red Paratroopa Since: 11-18-05 Last post: 6302 days Last view: 6295 days |
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Originally posted by ||EyeL E Ss|| You have to remember the distinction between nuclear POWER (i.e power plants and whatnot) and nuclear WEAPONRY. Namely, using one of them doesn't get the world on you, while the other does. Having nuclear power is not necessarily a bad thing; it takes some of the burden off of fossil fuels, for instance... I'm not quite sure on what's going on in Iran, so... I think the best course of action would likely to be to watch what they're doing decently closely. Pursuing nuclear power is not a harmful thing in itself, only when people decide to make it into weapons. Perhaps inspections would be good in this case? |
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