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Alastor
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Posted on 04-13-06 10:21 PM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Tatrion
I learned a new word from your post Alastor

And overall, I stopped going to GameFAQs much after I made that suicide topic. I never suicided, but I did delete my cookies, so I logged out. I still know the pass, but eh...

I only go there now to read walkthroughs. It is a nice service.
Is it esoteric? It's esoteric, isn't it.

And Apophis is right. There's no functional difference here...
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Posted on 04-13-06 10:29 PM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Alastor the Stylish
Is it esoteric? It's esoteric, isn't it.

Yes. Being understood only by a group; an inside joke.

I forgot the exact definition from dictionary.com, but I'll see if I can work it into a conversation and how many people will ask me what the heck that means. You're very articulate Kyouji.
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Posted on 04-13-06 10:43 PM Link | Quote
I'm surprised you hadn't seen me use it before; it's one of my favorite words

But, we're getting off topic here! Back to talking about GameFAQs' change
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Posted on 04-13-06 11:29 PM Link | Quote
I made my feelings about GameFAQs known some two years ago.

Suffice to say: I don't blame CJayC for "selling out" or whatever. What I blame him for is being naive enough to take CNet at their word when they promised they wouldn't change anything, making the same promise to the userbase, and having to backpedal and say "But don't worry, it's only a small change!" on seemingly a monthly basis.

He's also a horrible public relations person. What did he say some time afterward to try and ease fears? "Don't worry, I'm a CNet employee as much as anyone else!", AKA the absolute WORST thing you could say--yeah CJayC, and I'm an employee of Jaci Carroll Staffing Services as much as anyone else too, but that doesn't magically give me as much say in their day-to-day operations as anyone else....

Take those comments as you will.

As to the design, I don't like it, but whatever.
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Posted on 04-13-06 11:41 PM Link | Quote
I do like the word esoteric. I don't use it nearly as often as I should, though. Perhaps I'll need to start.

Ask me about the new GameFAQs look in a few months, and THEN I can give you a more accurate reading of whether it makes me seethe.
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Posted on 04-14-06 12:43 AM Link | Quote
Well, you could say that CJayC was put in-between a rock and a hard place, meaning he has to say this stuff even if he doesn't believe it himself. I'm sure he's doing well financially however. (And given how the site started, he deserves to be in the green at the end of the day.)
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Posted on 04-15-06 12:07 AM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Emptyeye
He's also a horrible public relations person. What did he say some time afterward to try and ease fears? "Don't worry, I'm a CNet employee as much as anyone else!", AKA the absolute WORST thing you could say--yeah CJayC, and I'm an employee of Jaci Carroll Staffing Services as much as anyone else too, but that doesn't magically give me as much say in their day-to-day operations as anyone else....
...

Those kinds of posts are him joking around.

I'd have thought the world domination by climbing the cnet ladder thing would've given that away.

And really, now, Cnet hasn't changed anything. It's still the same basic interface as it's ever been, just with graphical overhauls that can easily be reversed through the submittable skins, which are growing in number. Cnet doesn't have the authority to make GameFAQs a pay site, either, as they don't own the property hosted there, the contributors do.

Though it WOULD kick ass to get royalties, I must admit. (I'm a contributor)
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Posted on 04-15-06 12:51 AM Link | Quote
I don't know that they would need to give royalties, though...as the current agreement stands, for example, anything you submit becomes property of GameFAQs, doesn't it?
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Posted on 04-16-06 12:56 AM Link | Quote
Nope. It's only hosted there. It's your intellectual property. Hell, they even TELL you to write copyright information in your own name.
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Posted on 04-16-06 02:33 AM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Alastor the Stylish
It's your intellectual property.

I'm sorry, but I don't seem to know what that means. In seriousness, it's called your copyrighted work. There is no property to steal or anything like that.
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Posted on 04-16-06 05:00 AM Link | Quote
I own the work. It is my property. It is intellectual.

Therefore, by the definitions of intellectual and property, I proclaim the term correct. I don't care about is connotations; the denotations are perfectly accurate.
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Posted on 04-16-06 05:51 AM Link | Quote
Ah, my bad, actually. It's the CODES that become property of GameFAQs, not the FAQs. I just recall reading something a few days ago after the switch on Contributor Central. I'm not really a major contributor, as I just make a guide for an obscure SNES Gundam strategy game, and that's it, but I go there from time to time, and I noticed that...
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Posted on 04-16-06 09:54 PM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Alastor the Stylish

Those kinds of posts are him joking around.



Putting something like that in part of The Great GameFAQs Q&A is "him joking around?" (By the way, I apologize for misquoting him slightly; the exact line was "I mean, I'm as much of a part of CNET as anyone else who works here.") If so, I'll just add "sense of humor" to his shortcomings as well.

@Colin: While it's very possible he was forced to say those things per his contract (In which case I look like kind of a jackass, but oh well, it won't be the first time), it's also very possible that the contract had nothing to do with him making such proclamations. I guess we'll never know for sure. As a related aside, if what I hear is correct (And again, it's impossible for us to know for sure), he made out very well indeed moneywise with the contract.

As yet another fun aside, I found the "My patience has run out; I'm done" message I wrote from late May of '04, right after the GameFAQs/GameSpot board merger. Wow, I was pissed, though not entirely without reason as I read through it again.
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Posted on 04-16-06 10:05 PM Link | Quote
I am sick and tired of your thoughts on GameFAQs management, Emptyeye. There... There is nothing unreasonable about one absurdly devoted person becoming too swamped with work that he just can't continue. Until you work 20-hour days for weeks on end as the sole programmer, administrator, and checker of submitted work on an absurdly popular website, and someone offers to pay you a great deal of money to take the load off your hands while doing nothing except applying superficial changes, easily reversed with simple CSS if you so choose... Then dammit, you have no right to demonize him so.


(edited by Alastor the Stylish on 04-16-06 09:15 PM)
Emptyeye

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Posted on 04-16-06 10:10 PM Link | Quote
Hey, like I said, I don't blame him for needing and getting outside help, despite what I've said here. I maintain, though, that public relations is not his strong suit, which is probably why he's an administrator as opposed to a PR guy.

BUT BACK TO THE TOPIC AT HAND: I think I'm used to this specific, latest change, at any rate.
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Posted on 04-16-06 11:29 PM Link | Quote
Um... Kyouji... a little civility/tact, please?

EE: Well, I think he needed outside help since even though he was able to run the site by himself for a long time... it was barely possible. I'm guessing the site was near the breaking point when the merger happened.
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Posted on 04-16-06 11:32 PM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Colin
EE: Well, I think he needed outside help since even though he was able to run the site by himself for a long time... it was barely possible. I'm guessing the site was near the breaking point when the merger happened.


He sold the site to CNet before the merger. The merger happened later. Prior to that, the site was self-managed. Going back further, it was sponsored by IGN, but broke off from that. I believe before that, it was self-managed as well.
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Posted on 04-16-06 11:41 PM Link | Quote
Sorry, Colin. Really. It's just... It so pisses me off when I see people attacking such a good person
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Posted on 04-17-06 07:00 PM Link | Quote
I only go to gamefaqs nowadays to read the SRW boards.

Now I don't because 99% of the tards there are elitist assholes.
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