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| Acmlm's Board - I3 Archive - World Affairs/Debate - Religion is falling! The immoral level is rising! |
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Ailure Mr. Shine I just want peace...                    Since: 11-17-05 From: Sweden Last post: 6296 days Last view: 6296 days |
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Originally posted by ValcionThis reminds me about the "Every sperm is sacred." song by Monthy Python. Which kinda took it to the extreme... I need a copy of the bible and look up the quotes people refer to when they say Homosexuality is imorral, but then you have to remember the bible was written by severeal persons so... |
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windwaker Ninji i'm not judgemental, i'm cynical Lonely People of the World, Unite!  Since: 12-27-05 Last post: 6325 days Last view: 6304 days |
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Originally posted by geeogree Sure, but who's to say homosexuality is a sin? These people can't help it. Have you ever masturbated, geeogree? That's as big a sin as homosexuality (like what Valcion said). |
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emcee Red Super Koopa Since: 11-20-05 Last post: 6296 days Last view: 6296 days |
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| According to the Bible homosexuality is a sin. It's mentioned in several places, including the New Testiment. But that has nothing to do with why people like Skyon get so riled up about it. He said it himself, he's discusted by it. Not God or Jesus. The Bible just makes a convenient excuse to hate.
Think about it, how many movies come out a year that involve, murder, stealing, and adultry? Is the religious right making a big fuss out of them? The lists of rights and wrongs in the Bible aren't there as a guide so you know who to judge and look down on, they're there for you to follow in your life. Be concerned with yourself and let God handle the rest. I also don't understand the logic, that if a movie or television show depict something against your religion its "discrimination". By that logic a bacon commercial descriminates against Judaism. |
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Sinfjotle Lordly? No, not quite.  Since: 11-17-05 From: Kansas Last post: 6298 days Last view: 6296 days |
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Originally posted by emcee Where? |
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emcee Red Super Koopa Since: 11-20-05 Last post: 6296 days Last view: 6296 days |
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Originally posted by DracoonOriginally posted by emcee I believe its Acts. Remember there's more to the New Testiment than the Gopsels. |
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Deleted User Banned    Since: 05-08-06 Last post: None Last view: 6297 days |
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Originally posted by windwakerOriginally posted by SilvershieldOriginally posted by RydainNot to single you out, Rydain, but...seriously, people need to stop doing this. It's one of the most retarded things I've ever seen. I left early yesterday morning, and that's why I hadn't post for a while. Look guys, I said I was christian, but I told you my beliefs against homosexuality are totally me, I said earlier no one influenced my desicion. Sodomy The definition of sodomy is discussed, as well as whether sodomy is unnatural and thus punishable as a "crime against nature" - the rationale underlying the sodomy laws. Unnatural behavior? People frequently claim that homosexual behavior is wrong because it does not take place in nature. Research, however, shows otherwise. Mounting behavior between male chimpanzees, pairs of male Canadian geese sharing nests, and female grizzly bears with cubs together have all been observed in the wild. In fact, from insects through primates, similar activities have been noted throughout the natural realm between animals of the same-sex. But is an activity right simply because it takes place in nature? Animals eat their young, engage in fratricide, and harass those in their group who are sick and injured, yet we do not think these activities are right soley because of their natural occurrence. Conversely, with few ethical qualms, we engage in pursuits not found in nature. Things like building skyscrapers, working on computers, and eating on tables are all unnatural, however none of these endeavors seem to be cause for moral censure. Sodomy uncommon? One common argument is that sodomy is wrong because it is not "normal," or engaged in by a majority of people. But writing left-handed, walking backwards, and skydiving are not practiced by most, yet these activities do not meet with our moral disapproval simply for that reason. Sodomy against natural design? Others say that using body parts for other than their original, natural purpose is morally deficient. Thus, according to this claim, it would be wrong to use genitals for ends which are non-procreative. But hands were initially meant to climb trees, gather food, or catch prey, yet many no longer use these appendages whatsoever for such purposes - and now build fires, paint pictures, perform sign language, write and so forth with no thought of these actions as being morally problemmatic. Also in alt.christnet.bible you will see many other people from all over the world who talk about anything based on the bible, however there is very little gain in having a descent converstaion with some people. Howvever, Homosexuality is seen as an abominable act in the eyes of the Creator. It is degrading, and definitely is not fit for someone to hold a position of leadership in the congregation of believers, according to the what scripture teaches us. Please read Leviticus 18:21-30, Even cross dressing is a disgrace in the eyes of God. Deuteronomy 22:5. In Romans Ch 1:22-32, we see how many had chose to rebel aginst the ways of god, by rather following the ways of the flesh than the Creator unto Godliness. A reprobate mind (Void of judgement,unable to discern rigth from wrong) was given to them due to their actions and attitude in defying the laws and statutes for which God has laid down for man. The act of homosexuality was an act that was punishable by death, as it was a degrading influence morally and was dealt with accordingly by judgement. i.e being rocked off to sleep outside the gates of the city, as where most other judgements took place. In type with that, in 1 Corinthians 6:9, abusers of themselves with mankind, is one of things mentioned on the list for those who are not fit to enter into the kingdom. In 1 Corinthians 3:17 we are told also whosoever defiles the temple of the living God, i.e ourselves, then God will utterly destroy us, if we choose to be rebellious and foolish enough to continue on doing so. In regards to leadership as someone being appointed to have this position, Please read 1 Tim Ch 3 for the necessary requirements. A simple belief of mine. You said I was attacking this subject because of my religion; I told you I didn't like it, because I didn;t like it. But since you guys keep on bringing religion into it this is what I posted... (edited by Skyon on 04-08-06 11:43 PM) |
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Wurl Since: 11-17-05 Last post: 6337 days Last view: 6337 days |
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| I'm not so sure about the true meanings of the cross-dressing thing. I once read a paper by some Jewish theologian (I'll find the link) that said that quote condemned cross-dressing actually was meant to condemn women who dressed as men to participate in "manly" activities (Mostly in the church, but also going to war, participating in commerce, ect.) and condemned men who dressed as women to avoid army service. | |||
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C:/xkas bio.asm Compiled ASM code  Since: 11-17-05 Last post: 6297 days Last view: 6296 days |
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| meh, If god hate that much gay, why he don't just move his ass and kill them himself, also after reading the whole thread, I really wonder how can people can associate religion with morality, morality should unite us while religion divide us, I starting to believe religion changed what morality mean to 'obey what they said without thinking' but... isn't that fascist? | |||
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Deleted User Banned Since: 05-08-06 Last post: None Last view: 6297 days |
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Originally posted by Bio Bio, I like you in SMW forums, and I always will, but in here it might not be that way; let's stay cool with each other back in SMW forums, cool? God would just kill everyone if He wanted to kill people with these immoral beliefs. But I said earlier, he will have freewill on everyone, but God will reign judgement soon. Could be decades, could be years, could be very very soon... I still love being American, but I am also embarrased by some of my countries ways... |
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Tarale    2710 Affected by 'Princess Bitch-Face Syndrome' ++++!! Persona non grata Since: 11-17-05 From: Adelaide, Australia Last post: 6296 days Last view: 6296 days |
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| Okay, if God is going to punish these people -- why is it YOU feel that YOU must engage in hateful and bigoted behaviour?
Isn't it's God's job to worry about these things, not yours? Again, if my understanding of things is correct, I think it's your job to try to be a good and kind person (to everyone), not make judgement against others.... |
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Wurl Since: 11-17-05 Last post: 6337 days Last view: 6337 days |
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| I agree with Tarale.
"Do not judge, so that you be not judged." Mk. 7:1 |
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||bass Administrator  Since: 11-17-05 From: Salem, Connecticut Last post: 6297 days Last view: 6296 days |
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| Agreed. The whole purpose of Christ's ministry was one of absoloute forgiveness and acceptance. The only unchristian behavior is the spewing of hatred. | |||
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windwaker Ninji i'm not judgemental, i'm cynical Lonely People of the World, Unite! Since: 12-27-05 Last post: 6325 days Last view: 6304 days |
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| Skyon, who wrote the fucking bible?
(hint: not god) You can't take everything word for word. Everything written in it has been put through filters such as the fact that it's a translation, written by people (who were very descriminatory back then), and edited. |
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C:/xkas bio.asm Compiled ASM code Since: 11-17-05 Last post: 6297 days Last view: 6296 days |
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Originally posted by windwaker Originally posted by Wurl I personally have nothing against the bible, but I hate the fact it being used to create war, hate, close-mindness and other immoral thing (edited by Bio on 04-09-06 01:16 AM) (edited by Bio on 04-09-06 02:11 AM) |
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Deleted User Banned Since: 05-08-06 Last post: None Last view: 6297 days |
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Originally posted by Tarale I had to speak my mind on this thread, therefore I stated what I said as a regular human-being, not as a christian. Everyone asks me questions so I answer them. I'm not judging, I'm simply stating my opinions. I'm sorry it appears I'm judging, and if it does I apologize; I didn't mean to get out of hand. I didn't mean to project the image that God hates, because he doesn't. God loves gay people as much as he does me or you; but he does hate the sin of homosexuality. I made this look like hatred. Forgive me everyone. ...Oh and please don't use the "F" word as a verb with the Bible please... (edited by Skyon on 04-09-06 01:44 PM) |
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Sinfjotle Lordly? No, not quite. Since: 11-17-05 From: Kansas Last post: 6298 days Last view: 6296 days |
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| If you're a Christian, the idea is to live for God. To encompass your life in the teachings of Jesus. | |||
Valcion Knuckle Joe too much high power man  Since: 11-17-05 Last post: 6296 days Last view: 6296 days |
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| fucking is an adjective in that case, bub. | |||
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Wurl Since: 11-17-05 Last post: 6337 days Last view: 6337 days |
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Originally posted by Valcion This deserves a Spelling Gestapo Award! |
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mattp Red Paratroopa Since: 03-04-06 Last post: 6561 days Last view: 6561 days |
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| Actually it deserves a Usage Gestapo award. | |||
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Wurl Since: 11-17-05 Last post: 6337 days Last view: 6337 days |
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| We merged in like 1183 A.D. |
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