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Posted on 03-31-06 11:05 PM Link | Quote
So I'm sure you've all seen plenty of instances, be it awards show acceptance speeches, interviews after a big sporting event, or whatever, where the person being seen as really great thanks God and/or Jesus for His support.

Now that's nice and all, but I ask you this: does God really care? Do you really think He really thinks the Colts should win this particular game? Do you really think that He goes and punishes "bad" people so they don't win, thus allowing "good" people to win games?

And for that matter, you never really see the other side of it. Have you ever seen an interview with someone who choked during a game where he said "You know, I was doing great, but then, Jesus made me drop that pass"?
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Posted on 03-31-06 11:47 PM Link | Quote
And that's why people become athiests; because they prayed to God that team X would win and they didn't.

The most religious sports league (if you can even USE that term) would be the NFL, no? Put it this way...

Serious injury in the NHL = players standing around making sure everything's all right and checking on their teammate. More concern towards the individual than anything else, and if players are praying it's not obvious.

Serious injury in the NFL = at least half the team knelt down on the field, praying to God.

I prefer the NHL way far more than the NFL way, and I'm Catholic.
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Posted on 03-31-06 11:47 PM Link | Quote
Good question.

God tehnically cares about everything, according to the bible. But however, he also has to balance how it might affect others. And he has other universes / planets to take care of. After all, if he made humans in his own image, he must be fallible, if not often.

And that's assuming God exists, which is a whole internet forum's worth of debate.
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Posted on 04-01-06 12:05 AM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Colin
Serious injury in the NFL = at least half the team knelt down on the field, praying to God.
It's typical in organized sports for players to kneel on the field during an injury or, to a lesser degree, any other short of stoppage. At least in America and at least in my experience, that is. All through little league sports and into high school, no matter what I played - everything from soccer to baseball to football and, in some way, to wrestling - a coach would instruct everyone to "take a knee" until a situatin was sorted out. I doubt that half an NFL team decides to pray when a teammate is injured.

I find it silly that someone is so arrogant as to assume that God prefers his team over another in some sort of situation. Before any sort of athletic event, in my prayers, I would ask for modesty in my win, or understanding and self-control in my loss. I would ask for the physical safety of all involved, and that each would remember the tenets of sportsmanship. But I would never pray that my team would win (or that I personally would win in wrestling). It reminds me of the movie "Angels in the Outfield"; most of the movie defies my point of view but, in the last scenes when the team is playing in a championship game, the angel insists that 'important games like these must be won on their own.' I'd take that philosophy to the next level and argue that all games must be won on their own - God is just there to watch.
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Posted on 04-01-06 12:23 AM Link | Quote
But the only sport I see that happen in is football. I mean, I understand resting when there's an injury on the field. That I understand (in hockey you just stay at the bench for instance), but... it's just weird. I'm not bashing the process but at times it just looks strange.

It's nice to thank God when you win but it's fast become a cliche in sports, I think.
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Posted on 04-01-06 01:00 AM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Colin
But the only sport I see that happen in is football. I mean, I understand resting when there's an injury on the field. That I understand (in hockey you just stay at the bench for instance), but... it's just weird. I'm not bashing the process but at times it just looks strange.

It's nice to thank God when you win but it's fast become a cliche in sports, I think.
I don't know if it's always a case of a player resting, or just trying not to add to the confusion of the moment. An injury causes enough of a situation as it is, and conventional wisdom seems to suggest that 21 other guys milling around the field can do nothing but make things worse. It's not practical in most sports for the players to return to the bench; in hockey, not only is the ice a lot smaller than a football field or baseball diamond, but each player is on skates and can move fast while exerting little energy.

I liken thanking God in sports to doing the same in an acceptance speech for some award, be it an Oscar or an Emmy or any of the other ones out there. How can a person be so arrogant and self-righteous as to suggest that he or she is somehow the chosen of God, while some trait of his or her opponents has caused God to shun them? Especially in the entertainment business (not to change the subject from sports, although the two are closely enough related), which is largely a godless or at least overwhelmingly secular faction: so many of Hollywood's residents profess no specific faith, and if they do they hardly show signs of legitimate practice of that religion.

Or when a rapper, who rhymes about murder and rape and the objectivity of women, thanks God in an acceptance speech. How ridiculous.
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Posted on 04-01-06 01:25 AM Link | Quote
Even in soccer, which does have a large field, players routinely head over to the general area of the bench. Besides, it's easier to get water there.

If you're going to thank God, then you should have a reason to do so. If someone's extremely religious, then fine. Or if they have a specific reason to do so, great. But if the guy heads to church maybe ONCE a year at most... you might as well just thank your agent/manager/team instead.
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Posted on 04-01-06 01:32 AM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Colin
If you're going to thank God, then you should have a reason to do so. If someone's extremely religious, then fine. Or if they have a specific reason to do so, great. But if the guy heads to church maybe ONCE a year at most... you might as well just thank your agent/manager/team instead.
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