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Kirk Bradford Myers Shyguy                   Since: 01-23-06 From: Baltimore, Maryland Last post: 6589 days Last view: 6589 days |
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| Okay, I've had this idea for quite some time now, and judging from the reactions I've gotten from a few people at work, I believe that it qualifies as craziness, perhaps even bordering on madness. Although on some levels, I am dead serious about this...
We need a 27-hour a day clock!  ?????
Everyone complains that they don't have enough hours in a standard 24-hour day to get everything finished. But what if we were to give everyone an additional three hours a day to get things done? People would conceptually have more time in their day. Of course it sounds impossible, considering that the current 24-hour clock is based around the rotation of Earth on it's axis and, at the onset, it seems that a 27-hour clock would throw the days and nights completely out of whack unless we were to slow the rotation of the Earth down which, with our current technology, is impossible and would cause more problems than we's even care to imagine... Not the way in which I would implement things!
Here's the deal. In order to successfully implement a 27-hour clock, we would have to somehow fit it into the existing time framework of our current day. In practice, the 27-hour clock actually gives us no more or no less time than we started out with, but makes you THINK that you've gained three hours through the clever distribution of hours, minutes, and seconds within the time frame available to us. It's purely a psychological thing, really, but an effective one nonetheless. In order to do this, we break down our standard 24-hour day into the smallest measurements of time that we currently recognize on a global scale, that being the almighty second. If we multiply 60 seconds by 60 minutes, then multiply that result by 24 hours, we find that a typical Earth day lasts exactly 86,400 seconds. Okay, bearing that in mind... The trick here is to take those 86,400 seconds and evenly divide them between more that 24 individual parts with no remainder leftovers, thus creating our hours and creating more hours than we started with. I take notice that the only way to divide 86,400 evenly is to divide it by any multiple of 3, 24 being one of these multiples of 3. So we go to the next multiple of 3 which is 27. I chose 27 as opposed to a nice even number like 30 because I took notice that 30 would create an extremely noticeable deficit in the length of minutes and seconds within the hours...not so much so with 27. The trick here is to make the person not only believe that he/she is losing little or no time, but is actually gaining quite a bit of it. If we divide 86,400 by the standard 24, we end up with 3600 seconds per hour. If, on the other hand, we divide the same number by 27, we end up with 3200 seconds per hour. In our current way of thinking about time, that comes to a deficit of...oh, say...6 minutes and 40 seconds per hour. With the hustle and bustle that goes on in everyday life, very few of us are actually going to miss that six and two-thirds minutes. Even less so when you consider what I have in mind next. Hold your britches on, people, this is going to get REAL good...
Now comes the task of breaking those 3200 seconds per hour into manageable minutes and seconds. Since 3200 is not even divisible by 60, and the idea is to gain as much time as possible while losing as little of it as possible, we increase rather than decrease the number of minutes until we find a number that 3200 does divide evenly by. Fortunately, our number is very close by, that number being 64. When we divide 64 by 3200, we come up with a result of...50 seconds. Acceptable! So, in retrospect, all minutes within the new time frame would last 50 seconds, for a total loss of ten measly seconds per minute. Given the pace of life as we know it, very few if any at all are going to miss that ten seconds. It takes most people ten seconds to take a piss, including the time it takes to flush the toilet and put the seat down. BUT...look what we have gained!  We now have an extra four minutes per hour to play with, not to mention that we have an additional three hours per day, all at the cost of no more than ten seconds per minute. 50 seconds times 64 minutes times 27 hours equals our magical number of 86,400 seconds. Eureka! 
Of course, a new way to tell time would have to be implemented to supplement the new clock, given the uneven nature of it's amount of hours. Of course, we don't want something so far removed from the current way of telling time that people can't easily get their heads around it, as worldwide confusion is not the game we are in. So here's what I propose. The new clock will have 13 AM hours, 13 PM hours, and a special hour that occurs at noon called "Meridian", or "M" for short. The day begins at midnight, 13:00am, similar to our current clock, and continues on in the usual manner, taking the lost seconds and additional minutes into account. Immediately after 12:63am, Meridian occurs. It will be referred to as "Meridian O'Clock", "Quarter-past Meridian", "Meridian 40", whatever. On a digital clock, the above times would appear as "M:00","M:15", "M:40", and so on...Meridian has no AM or PM associated with it, as this is not needed. High noon would occur at M:30, since this is the exact middle of our day. Follow me so far? Good! After M:63, we go into 13:00pm, and we continue on in the usual manner, until we reach 12:63pm, one minute before the midnight hour. Immediately after that, the clock rolls to 13:00am and a new day begins. As you've probably guessed, there is no Meridian that occurs at night, only at noon, as it's what gives us our 27th hour and keeps the clock in check. Imagine the repercussions this would have on your professional life, and the advantages of which. Face it, folks, your work day is going to increase to nine hours instead of the usual eight. No sane employer is going to allow you to work eight hours given the inevitable loss of time dictated by the new clock, because in the overall time frame they would lose about 45-or-so minutes of production time on a 24-hour clock. Here's the kicker...you may be working nine hours, but you are still only working the same amount of time as you originally were, while getting paid for nine hours a day instead of eight!  Let me break this down for you...60 seconds times 60 minutes times 8 hours equals 28800 seconds. 50 seconds times 64 minutes times 9 hours equals...28800 seconds! And you'd notice even less considering that your workday would be broken up into four-and-a-half hour stretches on either side of your lunch break. And what better hour to take your lunch break than...Meridian!  Of course, your lunch break would technically be 400 seconds shorter within the given hour, but this actually has the advantage of shortening your work day by a couple of minutes. But all you would know if that you managed to get an additional four minutes on your lunch break! Employers would be happy because they'd be forced to step up production slightly to account for the shorter hours and they would get more done given the new nine-hour work day, which inevitably results in more overall profits for them. Employees would be happier, not only because they technically know that they are working no more amount of time than they were, not only because even after they work nine hours they know that they have an additional two hours per day for themselves, but also because they anticipate the additional pay that a 45-hour check at the end of the week brings them. Advantages all around...
And imagine the global industry that would be conceived as a result of the demand by the public for a new and now necessary 27-hour clock. Sure, the current clocks that people own would become obsolete...all the more reason to go out and buy a new 27-hour clock to properly tell time. Companies willing to manufacture and sell these things would literally spring up overnight. New jobs would be created as a result, lowering the unemployment rate worldwide and increasing the overall world economy! Gadzooks! A hell of a lot more people would be making money, that's for damned sure...or at least they would be better off than they were.
Of course, now...we must consider the chances that a crazy idea like this would ever even be considered, much less implemented, on a global scale. Granted, it would take some time, as some in this world are resistant to change of any kind. But some people think the Earth is still flat, some people's main method of transportation is a horse and buggy, some people still hunt for their own food with spears, and some people still browse the World Wide Web with Lynx. To these people I say: Catch up to the rest of us, or get left in the dust...such is the way of life. Surprisingly, I think that the chance that such an idea could be done is quite feasible. Because consider this...despite the differences between the nations of the world, despite the blood we've all shed and the wars we've had over petty shit, despite the differences in our cultures right down to the way we speak, read, and implement our languages...consider if you will that there are three things which, as a unified world, we have all managed to agree upon without fail. Three things...
1. Our unified use of the current way we calculate months, weeks, and days within the framework of a year... 2. Our unified use of the base 10 decimal numbering system, and the written characters which represent it, and... 3. Our unified methods of telling time within a single day!
That last one is important! If the entire world, through one method or another, was able to implement and agree upon our current system of telling time without bludgeoning each other to death over it or considering monetary profit as a deciding factor, then why should they not agree upon and implement a new method just the same considering the advantages it has for everyone across the board...including the monetary benefits?!? Crazy as this sounds, methinks this could be a top idea. And with that said, I will now leave this thread open for discussion. I would love to see the different opinions arising from a subject of this nature. Of course, we could just as easily file this under the "Kirk Has Too Much Friggin' Time On His Hands" forum...  but at least now I have spoken my peace. So post away, people.
Now, let's consider the calendar...
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timdevril50755 Poppy Bros. Jr   Since: 11-17-05 Last post: 6304 days Last view: 6294 days |
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| woah, you've really got it all figured out now, the secret to life the universe, and everything isn't 42, it's simply adding three hours to every day. | |||
asdf Link's Awakening ಠ_ಠ  Since: 11-18-05 Last post: 6296 days Last view: 6294 days |
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That...doesn't begin to make any sense. As you mentioned, there would still be the same amount of time in every day. In addition, it'd be rather difficult to adjust to this, moreso when it comes to implementing it worldwide. It's not worth our time.  (edited by asdf on 03-21-06 05:26 PM) |
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Squash Monster Bouncy Since: 11-18-05 From: Right next to myself. Last post: 6302 days Last view: 6295 days |
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Originally posted by Kirk Bradford Myers2, 4, 5, 8, 10, 16, 20, 25, 32, 40, 50, 64, 80, 100, 128, 160, 200, 320, 400, 640, 800, 1600, 3200. |
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Kirk Bradford Myers Shyguy Since: 01-23-06 From: Baltimore, Maryland Last post: 6589 days Last view: 6589 days |
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Originally posted by Squash MonsterOriginally posted by Kirk Bradford Myers2, 4, 5, 8, 10, 16, 20, 25, 32, 40, 50, 64, 80, 100, 128, 160, 200, 320, 400, 640, 800, 1600, 3200. Hmmm...good point. Perhaps I should have worded that a bit differently. In fact, strike that comment entirely, actually.
I knew that there was some befuddled logic I came up with as to why I came up with the number 27. Now that I really think about it, I believe it was because 25 didn't provide enough hours like I was looking for, and 32 would have been too much of a stretch. And, as previously mentioned, 30 would have also not been practical. One thing that I do know is that all multiples of three within the range I was looking for (24-30) will divide 86,400 evenly, so I probably used that to simplify things and then used it as the basis to pull that "divisible by three" comment out of my ass just now. I did come up with this thing about nine months ago, so I will definitely have to revise that when I finally post it in a future blog entry...thanks for the tip-off.
In actuality, this entire idea was pretty much pulled out of my ass...something I thought up while I was extremely bored. I don't truly think that my idea for the 27-hour clock is going to be accepted worldwide, but I just had to get it off my chest because it was so...well...abnormal. And I personally get a kick out of seeing people's reactions to these kinds of things, especially when it involves pushing the boundaries of what is known and accepted.
Of course, further discussion for the sake of shits and giggles is still encouraged...  |
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The Red Snifit Ropa  Since: 03-05-06 From: Here Last post: 6296 days Last view: 6294 days |
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| 27 hours would me more trouble than it's worth... 3:00 pm would be in the morning, and another day it's going to be in the night. But now 3:00 PM is is always the afternoon. To plan things ahead you would have to know what is the hours for that day. And some one has to figure out all that stuff or else it would be chaotic! We would have to adjust to it fast or it wont work, we wold have to add an hour every once in a while, and we don't know when to adjust, we would need some one to figure out a 25 hour clock 26 hour clock and 27! And that is just starting! It wont work... Its like changing life itself! | |||
Jeshua 50  Since: 03-17-06 From: Mobile, AL Last post: 6304 days Last view: 6299 days |
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| Not true.
Its like a different unit of measurement. 24 hours is equal to 27 of these hours. Understood? Its a phsycological brain teaser. Time will still be the same. Thank you. |
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The Red Snifit Ropa Since: 03-05-06 From: Here Last post: 6296 days Last view: 6294 days |
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Originally posted by Jeshua True, but the whole point is to add more hours in a day... What you say is just creating more lesser hours to make up the day, which doesn't really solve anything. |
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Jeshua 50 Since: 03-17-06 From: Mobile, AL Last post: 6304 days Last view: 6299 days |
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Originally posted by The Red SnifitOriginally posted by Jeshua Yes, but if you noticed at the top of this when reading, its all about the phsycological effects of it, not the actual time extension. |
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Skydude Armos Knight  Since: 02-18-06 From: Stanford, CA Last post: 6568 days Last view: 6568 days |
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| I do agree that there could be some positive psychological effects because of this, as people do generally think approximately in terms of hours in how much time they have. Still, I don't think it would ever work because of the immense amount of time and energy it would take to implement a plan of this sort. Plus, once this got implemented and people got used to it (a few generations down the road when all of us are dead), they would still complain about not enough hours in the day.
But it's a very amusing exercise to consider. |
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neotransotaku Sledge Brother Liberated from school...until MLK day  Since: 11-17-05 From: In Hearst Field Annex... Last post: 6296 days Last view: 6294 days |
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| To quote my engineering professor.
"Yes, I know it is 50 minutes but even if I gave you a single problem, you will still think you did not have enough time" 1. Our unified use of the current way we calculate months, weeks, and days within the framework of a year... I beg to differ, Japan references the year based on how long the current ruling emperor has ruled (you can see it in the paper). Many east asian cultures follow the lunar calendar and only follow the sun calendar because that is what is prevalent in the world. |
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Danielle    6730 Administratorrrr HELLO THERE   Since: 11-17-05 From: California Rate me ^_^ Last post: 6295 days Last view: 6294 days |
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Maybe this would benefit future generations, but I can't imagine myself going from 24 hour days to 27 hour days and feeling like I've gained 3 actual hours. It's just not gonna happen. But if kids grow up not knowing the 24 hour way of life, then yeah, it could potentially benefit them. Though you're really not getting any more time... 
No. My final answer is that this makes no sense. |
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Skydude Armos Knight Since: 02-18-06 From: Stanford, CA Last post: 6568 days Last view: 6568 days |
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| But my point is that I don't think it would help future generations. They would feel like they didn't have enough time either. And then they would make a similar thread pronouncing a 32 hour day or something, so they would seem like they had more time. No matter how much time you have or feel you have, it won't seem like enough, at least in the US, based on our culture. | |||
FreeDOS + Giant Red Koopa Legion: freedos = fritos  Since: 11-17-05 From: Seattle Last post: 6294 days Last view: 6294 days |
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| You're free to create your own 27-hour clock, but weather other people would use it is a different story of course |
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MathOnNapkins 1100  In SPC700 HELL Since: 11-18-05 Last post: 6294 days Last view: 6294 days |
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| This is like how people set their clocks and hour and a head forward so they get up earlier. At first it works but then they get used to it. Then we'll want a 42 hour day, and so on. | |||
Ailure Mr. Shine I just want peace...  Since: 11-17-05 From: Sweden Last post: 6294 days Last view: 6294 days |
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| Meh, I would rather be able to freeze the time around me so I can get a proper nap, and still be up all day. ^^ | |||
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Cruel Justice I have better things to do. Since: 11-18-05 From: At my house! Last post: 6295 days Last view: 6294 days |
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| Lemmie guess, you had that much trouble sleeping at night because of this?
It is possible to make such a thing mainly because man invented time. |
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Skydude Armos Knight Since: 02-18-06 From: Stanford, CA Last post: 6568 days Last view: 6568 days |
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Originally posted by MathOnNapkins See, an hour forward doesn't work, but what does work sometimes is ~5 minutes, if you're constantly leaving late. Again, you could get used to that and it wouldn't work anymore. What I've done, quite by accident, is set my clock every once in a while when it seems like it's too early or too late, one way or the other. At this point, I'm not sure where it lies in relation to normal time. Which could be both good and bad. But I'm rarely late. |
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Jeshua 50 Since: 03-17-06 From: Mobile, AL Last post: 6304 days Last view: 6299 days |
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| Point taken, blunt given.
Theory changed. Lets make stopwatches that freeze time.  |
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Snow Tomato Snap Dragon  Since: 12-31-05 From: NYC Last post: 6315 days Last view: 6300 days |
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| Hm. That makes zero sense.
You know what would make more sense? If we lessened the hours in the day. That way you'd look at the clock once... and it'd be three o'clock... and then like two hours later it's just be turning four. That would give people a real sense of gaining time. Let's say we created 12 hour days instead of 24 hours. Multiply the minutes by two... so one minute would really be two minutes... and a minute would have 120 seconds within it. Speeding up the clock would make everything seem like it was moving faster.... and thus, making people feel as if they'd rush and rush to their next activity. Hence, not having enough time. It would actually serve to reduce the amount of time that people felt they had. So.. I think lengthening the span of one hour to two hours... and cutting the actual hours in the day in half.. would make more sense. Cause you look at the clock.. and you think "OH SHIT.. it's already four o'clock".. but if you increased the time of one hour... it'd be like "Oh shit... it's still four o'clock... awesome [=".. See what I mean? |
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