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Tarale    2710 Affected by 'Princess Bitch-Face Syndrome' ++++!! Persona non grata                   Since: 11-17-05 From: Adelaide, Australia Last post: 6288 days Last view: 6288 days |
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Originally posted by Rom ManicOriginally posted by RedFlameZero Does this mean you're nuking Canada now?  |
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Rom Manic  Since: 12-18-05 From: Detroit, WHAT?! Last post: 6288 days Last view: 6288 days |
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| I'm pretty sure border control is tight with importing pot from Canada (Where I currently live), so I didn't think it was a big issue. But yeah, canadian pot is awesome. | |||
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Ziff B2BB BACKTOBASICSBITCHES Since: 11-18-05 From: A room Last post: 6288 days Last view: 6288 days |
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| Anyone who thinks Columbia is where all of America's weed comes from has no reason to speak in this thread. | |||
Skydude Armos Knight  Since: 02-18-06 From: Stanford, CA Last post: 6562 days Last view: 6562 days |
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| Well, he did say "and all other marijuana exporting countries" which makes it slightly less bad.
Isn't a lot "home-grown" in the states? Heh, I'm reminded of a particular mission in GTA  A where you have to cover up that operation. Very amusing. |
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Rom Manic Since: 12-18-05 From: Detroit, WHAT?! Last post: 6288 days Last view: 6288 days |
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| Oh I'm sure there is alot of it, but I meant the quality of it. Generally speaking, imported shit grows much better there, and thus there's a little bit of demand for it. | |||
Vyper Kodondo Raging Venom  Since: 11-18-05 From: Final Fantasy Fire Last post: 6306 days Last view: 6306 days |
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I say we all move to Denver. It's legal now  |
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Ziff B2BB BACKTOBASICSBITCHES Since: 11-18-05 From: A room Last post: 6288 days Last view: 6288 days |
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| Cocaine comes from Columbia where giant crime lords antagonize the population. Pot can come from the guy down the street with a wife and kids and a job. | |||
Zer0wned Koopa Since: 12-09-05 From: Torrance, ca Last post: 6446 days Last view: 6446 days |
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Originally posted by Plus Sign Abomination Having been involved in the drug distribution culture before, sometimes those guys are just retailers, the "manufacturers" are the ones raking in the big cash, and being accused of funding terrorism to some degree of accuracy. On the other hand though, that's not always the case, a lot of the time they grow their stuff up north somewhere, hidden in a field, or have some kind of little setup at their house. I think it's really funny how much people defend marijuanna, and how valiantly! For what cause now, beyond medicinal? For recreation? How self serving and immature. With alcohol, it was different, people's livelyhoods depended on it, and then all of the sudden, people are forced out of business because of a new law. That's why I understand the prohibition thing to some extent. Marijuanna on the other hand is starting to sound like a buncha fucking "but I waaannnaaa!!!". It's illegal, get over it. Fact is, most illegal things people do are because they want to, not because they need to, at least in some of the more civil governments, and no matter how much "but country x is waaay better than america" you feel like spouting, the US isn't THAT bad and non-understanding. So all this protesting, all this whining, all this bullshit for what? So you guys have another type of buzz to catch? My GOD, grow up. Regardless of how much better or worse it is than alcohol or tobacco, or whatever else, fact is, there's no NEED for it to be legal. It has zero health benefits, and no person that didn't decide to illegally start selling it is going to be at a disadvantage from it's continued illegality. It's like medicine, like vicodin. It'll give you a buzz, but that's not what it's for. I say treat it like medicine, with the same laws applied on them. (edited by Zer0wned on 03-25-06 05:09 PM) (edited by Zer0wned on 03-25-06 05:11 PM) |
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Ziff B2BB BACKTOBASICSBITCHES Since: 11-18-05 From: A room Last post: 6288 days Last view: 6288 days |
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| But alcohol was illegal. GET OVVVVVER IT!
Your argument has more holes in it than the freakin' Bismark. |
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mattp Red Paratroopa Since: 03-04-06 Last post: 6553 days Last view: 6553 days |
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| Fact is: There's no need for it to be illegal. | |||
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Zer0wned Koopa Since: 12-09-05 From: Torrance, ca Last post: 6446 days Last view: 6446 days |
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fact is: there's no need for it to be used beyond medicine
Originally posted by Plus Sign Abomination I'm a bit rusty, last time I've posted here on anything remotely controversial was like late october. You point, I'll patch. Anyway, if marijuanna was always legal, then suddenly was outlawed, my opinion would be a lot different (at least on the legality of it, I'll always hate it as a personal opinion), but it always has been. Everyone started knowing full well that it was illegal, which is proof that anyone who does it, doesn't care about it's legality anyway! These self-indulgent stoners just want it to be cheaper and easier/safer to get a hold of. As for pot vs alcohol, pot will carry with it its own set of new problems legalized. Seriously, just because you're happy, doesn't mean you're not in some way fucking something up for someone. A drug that makes you unproductive for a couple hours at a time. Outstanding. At least alcohol is good for your cardiovascular system. But really, they should all be illegal. Screw stoners, alcoholics, and smokers, you're all ruining the health systems and society. (I drink, hypocracy, lol) |
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Jomb Deddorokku  Since: 12-03-05 From: purgatory Last post: 6291 days Last view: 6291 days |
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| Your argument could apply to video-games or any other recreational activity (there is no NEED to play PS2, it just wastes hours of your life!)
I have no interest in smoking marijuana, and i never have, but i stand up for it because i'm against the government getting involved in our lifes unless its really important, and i believe people should be free to make their own minds up about life and how they want to live it. Marijuana does less to ruin lives than alchohol, which is legal, therefore it should be legal, or alchohol should be illegal. Having it illegal while alchohol is not is hypocritical. |
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Zer0wned Koopa Since: 12-09-05 From: Torrance, ca Last post: 6446 days Last view: 6446 days |
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| video games improve motor and reading skills, sometimes other things depending on the game being played, so not a complete waste of time. What's weed done for your brain? Besides, PS2 wasn't illegal at any point, I'm pretty sure. Other recreational activities usually reap some kind of benefit in one way or another, anyway, and screw up very few if any lives.
And weed ruins plenty of lives, I've seen it. In fact, it's messed mine up, and I don't even smoke it. Further still, I personally have seen more ruining done by weed than alcohol, but I'm pretty sure that's just my personal surroundings, so disregard that. There really is no good reason that any mind altering drugs (including alcohol and cigarettes) should have ever been legal in the first place, but we're stuck with the two because they've helped found the country's fiscal beginnings, and no one seems to either know, or be willing to find out how to remove that without significant negative effects on the economy (or without making society lose its mind, like that try with alcohol). Marijuanna didn't help fund the country at any time, so it missed its chance to also be embedded in the US's sin-tax income. I think the current standpoint of "tough shit, we're not fucking things up more" is a good one. |
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Jomb Deddorokku Since: 12-03-05 From: purgatory Last post: 6291 days Last view: 6291 days |
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| The question should'nt be "Why make it legal?" The question should be "Why is it illegal?". When it comes to personal rights and freedoms, freedom should be the default state of affairs unless there are damn good reasons to infringe or take away the rights of the people. I'm not advocating that you be taken somewhere and forced to use marijuana recreationally, i'm only advocating that for a drug with such minor side effects and actually some benefits, that it be legal for people to enjoy risk-free in the privacy of their own homes. You dont want to do it, then dont involve yourself with it, no big deal. Whats next? Make white lies illegal? Cheating on your BF/GF? Eating fast food? None of those things are good, and can hurt people, but making them crimes would be ridiculous. Economics make a very poor basis for a value system. The government could make tons of money by simply writing laws making it legal to take valuables away from the citizens, but that would'nt make it the right thing to do. I've personally suffered great losses due to alchohol and nicotine, but that does'nt mean it'd be better if possession of alchohol were made a felony carrying huge penalties. That would just ruin even more lives. | |||
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Vyper Kodondo Raging Venom Since: 11-18-05 From: Final Fantasy Fire Last post: 6306 days Last view: 6306 days |
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| Zer0wned, please get your facts straight. For one, marijuana was completely legal until 1937's Marijuana Tax Act. Marijuana laws really weren't enforced much until the Drug Abuse Prevention Act of 1970. Marijuana is legal in Amsterdam. Currently, Canada is the only country to supply medical marijuana to its patients. Recently, Denver, Colorado has legalized marijuana up to an ounce for those of us that are 21 or older.
There may be no health "benefits," but for someone who has brain cancer and is going to die in 6 months, Marijuana may be the only source of relief from the pain and nausea that's caused by chemotherapy. I see nationwide (US) legalization coming soon. |
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beneficii Broom Hatter Since: 11-18-05 Last post: 6292 days Last view: 6288 days |
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Originally posted by Jomb I agree. I think many lives get ruined from marijuana not from the effects of the drug itself, but from the cops throwing people in jail. I agree 100% that freedom should be the default state of affairs and the burden of proof should be on those advocating outlawing or continued outlawing, rather than on those trying to keep legalized or legalize. |
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Zer0wned Koopa Since: 12-09-05 From: Torrance, ca Last post: 6446 days Last view: 6446 days |
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| I think I made sure to mention that I exclude medical marijuanna in this on like every post so far, so I'm not the only one missing some facts. But still, an oops is in order for me =/.
And yeah, california had been doing that medicinal marijuanna thing for a good while now. My dad is a BS "certified caregiver" or some tomfoolery like that because he takes care of his.... uh, I dunno what the relation is, ladyfriend of some kind... And is allowed to possess a certain number of pounds of marijuanna. So is the woman who needs it for glycoma. They've been running this little specific thing for about a year now. "Drugs Though the Netherlands has a tolerant attitude towards drug use (possession of small quantities of soft drugs for personal use being tacitly allowed), hard drugs and marijuana (or hash) are still technically illegal. Buying drugs offered by street vendors is a dangerous and risky business, especially in the red-light district, and should be avoided at all costs." from - http://show-info.nl/amsterdam/e/exp_overig166 another fact not straight... See? It's easy to make mistakes, isn't it? On a seperate note, I find it funny that people blame their government for their inability to control themselves on things they reasonably shouldn't do. It's like having a button that says "DO NOT PRESS", and everyone keeps saying "FUCK YOU, I SHALL PRESS THIS BUTTON", and then something bad happens. Then blames the button. (edited by Zer0wned on 03-26-06 02:47 AM) |
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mattp Red Paratroopa Since: 03-04-06 Last post: 6553 days Last view: 6553 days |
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| haha
I can't beleive it took as long as it did to blow the cover off of Zer0wned entire argument, since marijuana wasn't made illegal until LONG after alcohol was. Also... can you find anything in the Constitution of the United States that gives the government the authority to make illegal substances that can be harmful? You won't be able to. |
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beneficii Broom Hatter Since: 11-18-05 Last post: 6292 days Last view: 6288 days |
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Originally posted by Zer0wned If the government takes the person and throws them in jail for it, then yes it is the government's fault. |
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Vyper Kodondo Raging Venom Since: 11-18-05 From: Final Fantasy Fire Last post: 6306 days Last view: 6306 days |
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Originally posted by Zer0wnedWhat? Are you dumb? Stores SELL the fucking weed in Amsterdam. If I'm not mistaken, coffee shops are allowed to hold like an ounce at any given time (or something like that; someone back me up with the actual limit!). You still havn't provided any logical reasons as to why we "shouldn't" smoke marijuana. |
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