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Xeon
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Since: 03-09-06
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Posted on 03-17-06 12:49 PM Link
Does anyone else smoke? I'm not one to believe all the bull crap the US government has led us believe about this wonderful plant. Just look at countries that have been smoking it for thousands of years, peaceful and happy. The only true damage pot can cause is to your lungs, but that comes from smoking anything. But like anything good, if you do something too much something bad will happen. Anyway, does anybody else smoke besides me? And what are your thoughts on the legalization of pot?
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Since: 03-05-06
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Posted on 03-17-06 01:03 PM Link
I don't smoke, I also think that pot should be banned, not only damage to lungs, but the brain as well... (DON'T SMOKE, AT ALL!!!)
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Posted on 03-17-06 01:05 PM Link
I dont smoke it, but I know people who do, and up here in canada its alot easier to get, they were even saying they were going to try and legalize it, which I dont see a problem with, may as well let people sell it in public rather then make people sell it in private. It would make pot related crimes pretty much disappear, although there arent that many anyway.
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Since: 03-09-06
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Posted on 03-17-06 01:10 PM Link
Originally posted by The Red Snifit
I don't smoke, I also think that pot should be banned, not only damage to lungs, but the brain as well... (DON'T SMOKE, AT ALL!!!)


If you’re talking about short term memory loss, then you are mistaken, it does not permanently cause you to lose all short term memory. And scientific studies have proven it causes no irreversible effects to the human brain.
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Since: 02-18-06
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Posted on 03-17-06 01:10 PM Link
Well actually, the long-term effects of pot have only recently been coming to light. I'm not sure how much you know about neurochemistry in general, but to put it simply, any substance (food, drug, etc.) that has any effect on your brain does so because either it's already there to some extent, or it's mimicking something that is. Generally what you're doing when you use a drug is putting more of that in than normal.

For quite some time researchers were wondering what the case was for the active ingredients in marijuana, and relatively recently hit on it. The neurotransmitters that it mimics are those which cause the breakdown of connections between neurons. Why would you want to break connections between neurons in a normal, healthy brain? Well, let me ask you this: do you really NEED to know what you've had for breakfast every morning for the past five months? Basically, it breaks connections it doesn't need anymore.

When you smoke pot, though, you put a lot more of that chemical into your system, and it breaks more connections than are desirable. It doesn't act on a massive scale like some drugs, so unless you're doing little other than smoke all day it's not going to have a devastating effect. Still, and you can see that it is noticeable to some extent in people who smoke even not that much, it does indeed have a deleterious effect.
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Posted on 03-17-06 01:11 PM Link
Last I remember, Marijuana is more shunned for its short term effects. I personally don't smoke it, as I see no reason as to why I should. And lung damage isn't a very nice thing in any situation.


(edited by asdf on 03-17-06 12:11 PM)
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Since: 11-20-05
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Posted on 03-17-06 01:19 PM Link
Yes I smoke pot. For two years now.
Here where I live it's extremely easy to get pot, I just need to go outside and walk around the block. My region is known for very high drug traffic (XTC, Coke, Weed, Hasj, Speed, anything you want really. ) coming from the Netherlands. Oh, and we have the best weed! You americans get to smoke some crappy ass weed compared to us. Did you know that Snoop Dogg had a bad trip in a coffeeshop in Amsterdam? ("Hij is slecht gegaan" for the Dutchies :p)

Oh, and pot does not damage your brain. True it makes your short term memory go gaga but that returns after stopping successfully.

Edit: Xeon got to it first.


(edited by Coby on 03-17-06 12:21 PM)
Xeon
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Since: 03-09-06
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Posted on 03-17-06 01:27 PM Link
Yeah, I have been smoking since I was 16 years old to help with my depression problems. The medications they gave me for depression didn't work at all, and they gave me severe diarrhea. My brother introduced me to pot, and the first time I smoked it I didn’t get very high, but I did get a buzz, and it made me really happy. Then the second and third times it put everything into perspective and the quality of my life increased dramatically. Now I’m not really depressed anymore, but pot still helps with everyday anxiety and problems. I try to limit myself to not smoke too much weed, because then I lay around all day and do nothing. My friends and I have fun too; we laugh, talk about current events, watch comedy channel, play video games and chill out while stoned. It brings friends together, and you can really pass the time away while you’re high. Then there is the fun of the munchies, you can eat a whole bag of cheetahs, and drink soda, and eat all the cookies.
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Since: 11-17-05
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Posted on 03-17-06 01:32 PM Link
I don't smoke pot. Had the chance to but never felt the need to.

I know a few friends that do though.

As for legalization of pot.

I actually don't care either way. If it is legalized, fine, if not, then fine as well.
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Since: 03-16-06
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Posted on 03-17-06 02:32 PM Link
Once, alcohol was illegal. Gangs and organized "families" illegally made alcohol. Crime was rampant. People died, because they could put anything in alcohol without it being regulated. Then, prohibition stopped. Alcohol was made legal. Organized crime almost stopped. The mafia as they were in the 20's disappeared. There was nothing they could push anymore.
I feel that the same would happen if they legalize marijuana. Alot of the crime we have now is over something as petty as marijuana. I doubt companies that pushed marijuana would lace the leaf with such chemicals as cocaine, heroine or methamphetymines.

So... legalize marijuna, I say. To get rid of crime. Increase the pursuit of knowledge, and bring a greater sense of peace to our country.


(edited by JeffreyGlen on 03-17-06 01:53 PM)
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Since: 11-17-05
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Posted on 03-17-06 02:50 PM Link
All I know, it's not a very widespread thing in Sweden. At least where I live.

And eh... wouldn't controversial topics like this go in the debate forum?
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Since: 11-17-05
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Posted on 03-17-06 03:00 PM Link
I used to smoke pot everyday. Last time I smoked was 4 years ago though. But before that I smoked weed for a really long time.

As for legalization.... it would be alright but it still would be pretty bad. (If you knew where I grew up.)
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Since: 02-18-06
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Posted on 03-17-06 03:10 PM Link
Originally posted by JeffreyGlen
Once, alcohol was illegal. Gangs and organized "families" illegally made alcohol. Crime was rampant. People died, because they could put anything in alcohol without it being regulated. Then, prohibition stopped. Alcohol was made legal. Organized crime almost stopped. The mafia as they were in the 20's disappeared. There was nothing they could push anymore.
I feel that the same would happen if they legalize marijuana. Alot of the crime we have now is over something as petty as marijuana. I doubt companies that pushed marijuana would lace the leaf with such chemicals as cocaine, heroine or methamphetymines.

So... legalize marijuna, I say. To get rid of crime. Increase the pursuit of knowledge, and bring a greater sense of peace to our country.


Please tell me you're joking. Do you really think it would cause much of a decrease in crime, aside from possession and/or sale of marijuana? I think it would in fact be more likely to increase crime as it's been well-established as a gateway drug. Also, legalize it and you'll be having a lot more high-in-public kinds of things, which is pretty bad for the rest of society, not to mention potentially dangerous.
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Since: 03-16-06
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Posted on 03-17-06 03:25 PM Link
Not neccessarily. Look at how much we are spending her in US because of Prisons. No mari busts... 50% almost of the prisons would be emptied.

Also, yes, it is a gateway drug. But mainly becasue of how much its laced. I'm sure it's potency would be dropped a bit too, if it were legalized.
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Since: 02-18-06
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Posted on 03-17-06 03:28 PM Link
You say some contradictory things in your post, in addition to wrong ones. Firstly, prisons would not be emptied by 50% because of it. Secondly, if it were legalized, then you would have to regulate it, which itself would cost quite a bit of money. That would hardly be free. And there would continue to be marijuana busts, as the "busts" have always been for the large-scale producers and dealers...and if it were legalized, be assured you would need a license to sell it, like a liquor license. Anybody who's still dealing would be breaking the law and could be imprisoned. If anything, that would give them even more of a reason to crack down on it.
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Posted on 03-17-06 03:33 PM Link
tousche salesman.
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Since: 03-13-06
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Posted on 03-17-06 03:33 PM Link
Originally posted by JeffreyGlen
Not neccessarily. Look at how much we are spending her in US because of Prisons. No mari busts... 50% almost of the prisons would be emptied.

Also, yes, it is a gateway drug. But mainly becasue of how much its laced. I'm sure it's potency would be dropped a bit too, if it were legalized.



LMFAO!

50 PERCENT? 50 PERCENT?

PLEASE don't tell me you really think that the reason 50% of people are in prison is for MARIJUANA related reasons?

Well, I guess that rules out people that go to jail for murder, rape, domestic violence related issues, and violence in general.

Honey, please. Speaking from someone who's had depression, that's probably the only reason you got hooked in the first place. Seriously, Zoloft is safer and better than marijuana and I think you should look into that since it's pretty obvious your brain is FIFTY PERCENT gone. XD
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Since: 03-16-06
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Posted on 03-17-06 03:41 PM Link
Um. I don't smoke Marijuana. And I am depressed. And I am on Welbutrin. It works wonders. I just know that in the town I live in that's the only arrests you ever see in the paper is marijuana related. And on DOC.gov there was a statistic last year that 48% of inmates are in because of drug related issues, and 90% of drug related issues were because of marijuana.

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Posted on 03-17-06 03:47 PM Link
Im getting this "this discussion goes in the affairs forum" vibe...

If a full mod wants to disagree, do so
Xeon
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Since: 03-09-06
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Posted on 03-17-06 03:50 PM Link
MYTH: MARIJUANA IS A GATEWAY DRUG. Even if marijuana itself causes minimal harm, it is a dangerous substance because it leads to the use of "harder drugs" like heroin, LSD, and cocaine.

FACT: Marijuana does not cause people to use hard drugs. What the gateway theory presents as a causal explanation is a statistic association between common and uncommon drugs, an association that changes over time as different drugs increase and decrease in prevalence. Marijuana is the most popular illegal drug in the United States today. Therefore, people who have used less popular drugs such as heroin, cocaine, and LSD, are likely to have also used marijuana. Most marijuana users never use any other illegal drug. Indeed, for the large majority of people, marijuana is a terminus rather than a gateway drug.
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