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Sonicandfails

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Posted on 03-16-06 07:23 PM Link | Quote
After 2 3/4 years away from SMW Rom Hacking, I have reemerged. After my first failed attempt at SMW Hacking (Mario's Chance), I quickly attempted other ideas, and failed to show any effort on those eather. These ideas ranged from Sonic in Mario, Time Trial Races, and some stupid Stickman...In Mario. After these ideas died and dropped from my mind, I learned that, maybe SMW just wasn't right for me. So I moved on. I looked into many different Level Editors for something to edit Yoshi's Island(Of course, with constant help from GoYo on the way ), Sonic 2, Solomon's Key, Snoopys Magic Show, and a few others. All of these failed, and soon after, I lost interest. Till one day, someone named Gil came along, and boosted my confidence and spirit. He tried to teach me ASM 6502, and I took writen notes, and got about half of the basics done. Then he dissapered one day...I never attempted ASM again. But, thanks to these lessons, I learned how to Search for Codes(GG/GS), and Corrupt and Find Data! I took off with these learnings, and tried my hand at many things. Donkey Kong for the Game Boy, to Super Mario Land, and even Kirby's Dreamland, which I soon found after from someone, that it had the most confusing encryption out of most, if not all Games. Things slowed down, as I tried all kinds of games, and never really got anywhere with them. Eventually, my interests in Rom Hacking died. I browsed the RH Board every so often, I stayed out of the SMW forum, and most importantly, deleted everything, if not all of my past attempts at Rom Hacking. The dark ages...had come. I came to the conclusion, I didn't have the patiance, or the time to edit such rediculus, most likely unplayed, unenjoyable games. After weeks upon months of nothing, I woke up one morning after a rather enjoyable dream involving a hack of YI with things that would never be possible in the game. This jumpstarted my want to hack, like one would jumpstart a car. I started up my PC later on, and went straight to Acmlm.org. Downloaded Lunar Magic, a Rom from another site, and made sure it was a clean Rom. I planned the idea of my hack and everything soon after. It would be, about "What We Loved!". After about 2 hours into making my first level, I though about what I would do when I go to my other parents house during the week... This was one of the factors that killed my older hacks! I thought in sorrow, as I knew that transfering the hack back and forth was less then fun, and I did not want to go through with back forth. After further contemplation, a spark was lit, and it came to me. "Two editions! One for each house! Each with about fifty levels, different maps, different levels, different everything!" Of course, the only thing NOT different, would be what they were imagined to be about...

"What We Loved!"
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Now that I am over with my life story about Rom Hacking, here is the first LevelShot(LevelShot meaning larger then a regular screenshot and showing more of the level) to be released to anyone, of "What We Loved! - Red Edition".

Rather Large LevelShot PNG


Wait...No ExGFX? Nope. Not on my watch. These are Hacks about "What We Loved!" Remember when a Rom Hack was a simple level hack with maybe a few graphic changes and it became an instant classic, enjoyed by the masses? Well I do. Specifically GoYo's early hacks, and a few other stray ones I played back in the day.
These Hacks will be centered around Level Design, and basically Level Design only.

So that LevelShot is whatever level it becomes to be in the Red Edition. You may notice that there are only 4 Dragon Coins, and this is because the level continues far past this LevelShot. Also, hidden things are not shown, as to not spoil anything, and thus, are missing from the LevelShot. And last thing, in the top left part of the LevelShot (That word is annoying now isn't it ), you notice that there are some ropes dangleing in mid-air. This part has not been added, but you are not missing much.

Progress on Blue Edition is also into production, sadly, with no picture. It almost has a level done also, and the start of a changed overworld.

So, if you have beared with me this long, then I would like to say thanks for reading, and hopefully I can get some feedback on what I have so far, and what is going to be done.
Raccoon Sam

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Posted on 03-17-06 09:20 AM Link | Quote
Finally a Hack with no ExGfx
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Posted on 03-17-06 10:27 AM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Raccoon Sam
Finally a Hack with no ExGfx


Umm...it's been done many times before. In fact, it is recently being done here.

As for the hack, it sounds interesting enough. I might consider playing it once it is released if the level design is good enough.
Sonicandfails

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Posted on 03-17-06 10:37 AM Link | Quote
Well, the aim wasn't to just make a hack with no ExGFX...

If I wanted to, I very well could! But, to keep with the theme, I want to stay stray of ExGFX, and make a hack that is based around good gameplay and solid level design, as those are the two things early SMW hacks had, BEFORE the wonders of ExGFX and other things that were later implemented.

I want to make this fun, unlike some people who want to make SMW hacks with character replacement, impossible levels, garbage levels, or into a whole new game etc.

Im not going for something unique here, like hacks that are MENT for no ExGFX. I am going for what we loved when we found out about Mario World hacking way back when, and how we saw peoples hacks and dreamed of becoming as good as them. Trust me, I used to think Acmlm's SMW hack was god-like, and I always wanted to be like Ace. So instead of make a hack that replicates older hacks and their style, Im making one that reminds us of them. Kind of along the same lines, but different in terms of design.

Thanks for the feedback though, replys encourage me to work more on things like this
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Posted on 03-17-06 11:33 AM Link | Quote
I think that screen put your autobiography to waste. Reading through the beginning, (mentally) I thought I heard the Metal Gear Solid intro until I saw the screen.

Unless you can labotomize everyone's brain on the board to the point where they revert back to the "old days", you're not making a breakthrough. You're just regurgitating the old and glorifying it through text.

The programs haven't failed you, you failed the programs if you just give up. Again, you also gave up on ASM, you have failed twice! :O

Red and Blue edition. You couldn't be more original Ash Ketchum.

Really, why care if you're using a lack of time as an excuse to not make something different, let alone think of a better name? Either you want to hack or you don't.
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Posted on 03-17-06 12:26 PM Link | Quote
Originally posted by [GGS Cruel Justice
I think that screen put your autobiography to waste. Reading through the beginning, (mentally) I thought I heard the Metal Gear Solid intro until I saw the screen.

Unless you can labotomize everyone's brain on the board to the point where they revert back to the "old days", you're not making a breakthrough. You're just regurgitating the old and glorifying it through text.

The programs haven't failed you, you failed the programs if you just give up. Again, you also gave up on ASM, you have failed twice! :O

Red and Blue edition. You couldn't be more original Ash Ketchum.

Really, why care if you're using a lack of time as an excuse to not make something different, let alone think of a better name? Either you want to hack or you don't.


In a way, he's pretty much right.

This forum has apparently surpassed normal graphics. With all the *latest technology* (ExGFX, ASM, HDMA, etc.) it seems that original graphics don't cut it anymore - same goes with enemies and effects: they just don't do it. Next thing you know we'll be seeing a SMW hack just like SM64, and before we know it we'll have friggin Paper Mario walking all over this forum.

I'm not saying I disagree, all the ExGFX and stuff looks MUCH better than the old graphics, but people do also need to realize that level design is an important factor too. I look at that screen, and I think *That looks fun to play* but sadly, most others don't.

(P.S. the first two ropes in that screen are cut off on the left side)

I look forward to seeing more of this S&T, even if I don't see anything fancy


(edited by SoNotNormal on 03-17-06 11:27 AM)
(edited by SoNotNormal on 03-17-06 11:28 AM)
(edited by SoNotNormal on 03-17-06 11:29 AM)
Sonicandfails

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Posted on 03-17-06 01:54 PM Link | Quote
If you read, you'd notice I covered why the two ropes arent finished.

Yea, I figured I would get these kind of reviews...
And yea, what I ment was that my HACKS failed. Should of made it more clear. It wasnt the programs that failed me, it was my interest in the hacks. And I didn't give up on ASM, the person who actually cared to teach me has been missing for awhile, and I would gladly pull out my old notes in my notebook, and learn more, but I need to be tought from someone else. Reading for learning dosn't work for me....

And unoriginal? Yes. Red and Blue isnt original. What else do I have to choose?

I felt this comeing. Tis ok...I dont want to work on a hack that noone cares about then.
Maybe I should take up programming then and make my own games.


Mods. Please do the close warp. This hack is shelved and dead now. Noone cares, noone thinks the idea is the greatest. Meh. Then I agree. I dont do this for ME. I do it for PEOPLE.

EDIT: Changed my mind, thanks Grey


(edited by Sonicandtails on 03-17-06 12:59 PM)
(edited by Sonicandtails on 03-17-06 01:03 PM)
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Posted on 03-17-06 01:59 PM Link | Quote
(12:56:21) GigaHedgehog: Wanna do me a favor?
(12:56:30) GigaHedgehog: Close my thread "WWL" in SMW
(12:56:40) DetectiveGrey: sure?
(12:56:42) GigaHedgehog: Yep
(12:56:46) GigaHedgehog: Thanks
(12:57:15) DetectiveGrey: you mean smw hacking?
(12:57:19) GigaHedgehog: Yes
(12:58:22) DetectiveGrey: You sure? That level looks kinda interesting
(12:58:26) GigaHedgehog: Well...
(12:58:28) GigaHedgehog: I dont know
(12:58:34) GigaHedgehog: 2 People said its crap
(12:58:44) GigaHedgehog: I dont know...
(12:58:51) GigaHedgehog: Might as well keep it open

I'm not closing this unless your actual hack sucks, SAT.


(edited by Grey on 03-17-06 12:59 PM)
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Posted on 03-17-06 03:21 PM Link | Quote
Good Level desing is what drives a good Platformer.

The level looks interessting, and not crap.

But you may use different things than red & blue version, when you allready do two different Super Mario World Hacks.
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Posted on 03-17-06 03:27 PM Link | Quote
So if you connect the games by a cable can you trade mario-mon between them? so the names do kinda suck, but I do like the level in the screenshot, even if it does look odd...
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Posted on 03-17-06 04:20 PM Link | Quote
How about now?
I updated the rope area...Dose it look more interesting? Well, heres a spoiler...
Spoiler:
The top left has broken parts of ground floating and being tied by rope to station land, as the left tube leads to an area that is all floating ground. The levels will be extensive, count on it ;)


No, they wont connect 8D
Red/Blue is only the WIP name...It will most likely change...


(edited by Sonicandtails on 03-17-06 03:21 PM)
(edited by Sonicandtails on 03-17-06 03:22 PM)
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Posted on 03-17-06 05:59 PM Link | Quote
Dammit man, now it looks sweet I only read up to the screenie, didnt read anything after, so didnt know about ropes

And no one said it was crap. Who said it was crap
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Posted on 03-17-06 06:19 PM Link | Quote
That does look good dude! I am curious though.... What's the different between red and blue? (Reminds me of Pokemon, but it could be cool and neat)


(edited by Fox on 03-17-06 05:19 PM)
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Posted on 03-17-06 09:53 PM Link | Quote
If you read(Im not expecting you do, dont worry ) Im making part of the hack at each house I live at, to make it easier on myself, and this will then make two different hacks, called Red and Blue. Although, the name may change... And thanks for the compliment SNN
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Posted on 03-17-06 09:59 PM Link | Quote
Try and get it done fast, it sounds interesting.
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Posted on 03-17-06 10:07 PM Link | Quote
Well, I dont want to rush it. Im gonna spend as much time as it takes on level design...
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Posted on 03-17-06 10:29 PM Link | Quote
Take your time on it, and make it sweet. I'm sure you will; I also make interesting level design; everyone else is into the ExGFX. I've played "Panic in the mushroom kingdom", but it's very repeatitive in it's level design, the only thing going good in that hack was the awesome graphics but that was it, but guys like you and me make the game actually fun, good luck!
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