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Skydude

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Since: 02-18-06
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Posted on 03-02-06 01:50 PM Link | Quote
That kind of thing really puts a bit of a cap on the guilt one can feel when one's mother tells you to eat those vegetables because kids in Africa are starving

Really, I don't think the infrastructure investment is necessarily too much of an expenditure to be unfeasible. I think the money is there, not just in general but even in relief efforts. One of the issues is that countries have a domestic-first policy in general. Poor people in the US are, for the most part, a LOT better off than most of the population of a lot of these other countries, but we tend to them first because, well, they're part of us. From an efficiency standpoint, it might be better to help the other countries as well. What should we do? I don't know.
Wurl









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Posted on 03-02-06 09:26 PM Link | Quote
Yes, but you forget that in other industrialized nations people in general have it better than the U.S.: Working welfare, civil health care, ect.

Also, here is a more "viable" resource, Skydude: http://www.foxbghsuit.com/
I, however, think that the previous link was credible enough. Just because they are a journalist orginization does not mean that they will protect any BS a reporter throws out there. Also, to my (limited) knowledge of the orginization, tabliods and the like are not covered.


(edited by Wurl on 03-02-06 08:27 PM)
Skydude

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Posted on 03-02-06 10:23 PM Link | Quote
Um, Wurl, that's the same link as was in the wikipedia, which as I said, is a website maintained by someone who's best friends with the folks involved.

Also, in other industrialized nations, some people have it better than in the US, certainly, but one thing the US has is that there are a lot fewer unemployed and the like than in other nations. The poor are worse off than some other industrialized nations, but there are a lot fewer of them. As such, it is arguable who has a worse situation.
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Posted on 03-02-06 11:01 PM Link | Quote
Ach, here's the link I intended to place above: http://www.lightparty.com/Health/GotMilk.html The above link is intersting mainly because it contrasts the FDA and its Canadian equal's findings. It seems I had confused links while wading through material on the subject.

Just for fun, here are two others: http://www.monsanto.com/monsanto/layout/VSearchResults.asp?queryText=Jane+Akre http://www.monsanto.com/monsanto/layout/VSearchResults.asp?queryText=Steve+Wilson

The unemployment rate in the U.S. is higher than some and lower than others. However, the povery rate in the U.S. is much higher than in many other nations. Also it should be considered that many of America's poor are working, yet can't meet the average living standards of fellow citizens.
Sinfjotle
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Posted on 03-03-06 04:00 AM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Plus Sign Abomination
Yeah, but you guys have to take into account that the hunger problem isn't just because food is difficult to grow, it's hard to distribute. You can't just airdrop seeds onto a field and expect people to know what to do. They'll need equipment and training. Infrastructure within these areas is VERY important so as to provide education and allow for distribution of surplus foods...as well as protect the farmers from potential hazards.

If all it took was to give someone some wheat with a chunk of dog DNA in it to fix all of Africa's hunger we'd have done it by now.


Yes, but that isn't really that expensive compared to how much the military would spend keeping the peace because of it.
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Posted on 03-03-06 12:22 PM Link | Quote
Pardon?

I find it quite odd that you assume that. I mean, Yugoslavia was a fairly well-to-do country and peace corps are still there. Liberia, too, was the gem of Africa...now look at Ivory Coast. But pulling a poor country from poverty doesn't preclude a gigantic civil war, or anything.
Sinfjotle
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Posted on 03-03-06 07:45 PM Link | Quote
It can. If there is no reason to fight, people won't fight.

Sure there will be government curruption, surpression, and a mulitude of other thing, but this isn't about that. What can cause problems is when people are losing their families to starvation and sickness and the population become restless. Places like the poor regions of Africa where people are dieing because of bad conditions, some money goes a long way. Things that we (America, I'm not sure much about the UN.) do are stupid when it comes to this, when we try and use our military to make conditions better.
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Posted on 03-05-06 05:02 PM Link | Quote

I still don't get why people supposedly tell farmers not to grow crops just to drive prices up. This kind of thing makes my head spin.

Because low prices mean no profit, mean bankrupt farmers?

It's stupid protectionism. There should only be so many farmers as needed so we don't need to destroy food.


Yes, but you forget that in other industrialized nations people in general have it better than the U.S.: Working welfare, civil health care, ect.

Not to mention monstrously crippling taxes and bloated governments. I'll pass.
Skydude

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Posted on 03-05-06 06:10 PM Link | Quote
Well, in a number of cases, it would be more efficient for other countries to grow the crops, and pay the farmers to train them in other industries, and get them to do something else with their time. That's a rather simple part of textbook economics. But of course, the farmers don't WANT that. And they're the best-mobilized lobby in most countries.
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