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Skydude Armos Knight Since: 02-18-06 From: Stanford, CA Last post: 6568 days Last view: 6568 days |
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That kind of thing really puts a bit of a cap on the guilt one can feel when one's mother tells you to eat those vegetables because kids in Africa are starving
Really, I don't think the infrastructure investment is necessarily too much of an expenditure to be unfeasible. I think the money is there, not just in general but even in relief efforts. One of the issues is that countries have a domestic-first policy in general. Poor people in the US are, for the most part, a LOT better off than most of the population of a lot of these other countries, but we tend to them first because, well, they're part of us. From an efficiency standpoint, it might be better to help the other countries as well. What should we do? I don't know. |
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Wurl Since: 11-17-05 Last post: 6336 days Last view: 6336 days |
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Yes, but you forget that in other industrialized nations people in general have it better than the U.S.: Working welfare, civil health care, ect.
Also, here is a more "viable" resource, Skydude: http://www.foxbghsuit.com/ I, however, think that the previous link was credible enough. Just because they are a journalist orginization does not mean that they will protect any BS a reporter throws out there. Also, to my (limited) knowledge of the orginization, tabliods and the like are not covered. (edited by Wurl on 03-02-06 08:27 PM) |
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Skydude Armos Knight Since: 02-18-06 From: Stanford, CA Last post: 6568 days Last view: 6568 days |
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Um, Wurl, that's the same link as was in the wikipedia, which as I said, is a website maintained by someone who's best friends with the folks involved.
Also, in other industrialized nations, some people have it better than in the US, certainly, but one thing the US has is that there are a lot fewer unemployed and the like than in other nations. The poor are worse off than some other industrialized nations, but there are a lot fewer of them. As such, it is arguable who has a worse situation. |
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Wurl Since: 11-17-05 Last post: 6336 days Last view: 6336 days |
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Ach, here's the link I intended to place above: http://www.lightparty.com/Health/GotMilk.html The above link is intersting mainly because it contrasts the FDA and its Canadian equal's findings. It seems I had confused links while wading through material on the subject.
Just for fun, here are two others: http://www.monsanto.com/monsanto/layout/VSearchResults.asp?queryText=Jane+Akre http://www.monsanto.com/monsanto/layout/VSearchResults.asp?queryText=Steve+Wilson The unemployment rate in the U.S. is higher than some and lower than others. However, the povery rate in the U.S. is much higher than in many other nations. Also it should be considered that many of America's poor are working, yet can't meet the average living standards of fellow citizens. |
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Sinfjotle Lordly? No, not quite. Since: 11-17-05 From: Kansas Last post: 6296 days Last view: 6295 days |
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Originally posted by Plus Sign Abomination Yes, but that isn't really that expensive compared to how much the military would spend keeping the peace because of it. |
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Ziff B2BB BACKTOBASICSBITCHES Since: 11-18-05 From: A room Last post: 6295 days Last view: 6295 days |
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Pardon?
I find it quite odd that you assume that. I mean, Yugoslavia was a fairly well-to-do country and peace corps are still there. Liberia, too, was the gem of Africa...now look at Ivory Coast. But pulling a poor country from poverty doesn't preclude a gigantic civil war, or anything. |
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Sinfjotle Lordly? No, not quite. Since: 11-17-05 From: Kansas Last post: 6296 days Last view: 6295 days |
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It can. If there is no reason to fight, people won't fight.
Sure there will be government curruption, surpression, and a mulitude of other thing, but this isn't about that. What can cause problems is when people are losing their families to starvation and sickness and the population become restless. Places like the poor regions of Africa where people are dieing because of bad conditions, some money goes a long way. Things that we (America, I'm not sure much about the UN.) do are stupid when it comes to this, when we try and use our military to make conditions better. |
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mattp Red Paratroopa Since: 03-04-06 Last post: 6559 days Last view: 6559 days |
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Because low prices mean no profit, mean bankrupt farmers? It's stupid protectionism. There should only be so many farmers as needed so we don't need to destroy food.
Not to mention monstrously crippling taxes and bloated governments. I'll pass. |
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Skydude Armos Knight Since: 02-18-06 From: Stanford, CA Last post: 6568 days Last view: 6568 days |
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Well, in a number of cases, it would be more efficient for other countries to grow the crops, and pay the farmers to train them in other industries, and get them to do something else with their time. That's a rather simple part of textbook economics. But of course, the farmers don't WANT that. And they're the best-mobilized lobby in most countries. |
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