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Sigma Octorok Since: 01-24-06 From: Indiana Last post: 6623 days Last view: 6623 days |
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I have two different Image editors on my computer, YY-CHR and MrClicks TilEd, and it seems that no matter what ROM I open, I get a buch of (what seems like) random pixels. The ROMs that I've tried them on are, Final Fantasy Tactics Advance, Golden Sun, and FF 1 & 2 Dawn of Souls. I was thinking that maybe they were compresed, and if they are are there any programs I can use to decompress them? Also, it would be so much easier if there was a universal image exporting/importing program, if there is one where could I find it? | |||
Sexy-Derby Goomba Since: 11-18-05 From: St-Georges,Quebec,Canada Last post: 6571 days Last view: 6571 days |
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I used to know than some game have very scrambled graphics and WATCH OUT if you erase a something accidently who is not a tile or a sprite, there good chance than you hack gona be SCREWED! (the game will crash)
I d'ont know what program to use,i let veteran hacker explain to you (lol sorry for my bad english guys....i usually talk french) |
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Kyoufu Kawa Intends to keep Rom Hacking in one piece until the end Since: 11-18-05 From: Catgirl Central Station Last post: 6286 days Last view: 6286 days |
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No ROM has graphics data right on the start. The blaring static you see is code and non-graphics data being misunderstood as graphics. That's because, aside from certain flavors of NES roms, there's no real distinction between the three data types.
If you don't grok that, you shouldn't be trying to graphics-hack. |
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Sigma Octorok Since: 01-24-06 From: Indiana Last post: 6623 days Last view: 6623 days |
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>< That sucks. | |||
Kyoufu Kawa Intends to keep Rom Hacking in one piece until the end Since: 11-18-05 From: Catgirl Central Station Last post: 6286 days Last view: 6286 days |
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It's a technical limitation. The distinction can only be made if the image editor had a... map of sorts that says where the graphics are. But no editor programmer is insane enough to write half an emulator to trace out that map!
And -that- sucks. NES roms can have two kinds of chips: Program and Character rom. Those with this distinction can often be loaded into, say, TLP and it'll show and edit only the CHRROM banks. It doesn't always work. Probably involves the game's use of specific mapper chips. |
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Jouw Koopa Since: 12-03-05 Last post: 6296 days Last view: 6296 days |
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Just scroll down, you'll find the sprites soon enough. | |||
Sigma Octorok Since: 01-24-06 From: Indiana Last post: 6623 days Last view: 6623 days |
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Not quite. The whole thing is just random-looking green pixels, unless I change the pallete then they are different colors ^^ | |||
Kyoufu Kawa Intends to keep Rom Hacking in one piece until the end Since: 11-18-05 From: Catgirl Central Station Last post: 6286 days Last view: 6286 days |
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Originally posted by SigmaOkay... you have just proven that you should not be trying to graphics-hack. Want me to explain why? |
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Imajin Bot Local Moderator Currently affected by 'No syndrome' ---!!! Since: 12-05-05 From: Camineet, Palm Last post: 6287 days Last view: 6287 days |
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Gameboy Advance games usually have compressed graphics. | |||
Kyoufu Kawa Intends to keep Rom Hacking in one piece until the end Since: 11-18-05 From: Catgirl Central Station Last post: 6286 days Last view: 6286 days |
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Usually? | |||
Celice Gordo Since: 11-17-05 From: Oroville, CA Last post: 6291 days Last view: 6287 days |
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Yes, usually. I know for a fact that Fire Emblem 6~8 have their item icons, battle numbers, and, in the case of eight, even the mugs are uncompressed (english only~). | |||
Kyoufu Kawa Intends to keep Rom Hacking in one piece until the end Since: 11-18-05 From: Catgirl Central Station Last post: 6286 days Last view: 6286 days |
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Sonic Advance 1 and 2. Nearly everything uncompressed. | |||
Celice Gordo Since: 11-17-05 From: Oroville, CA Last post: 6291 days Last view: 6287 days |
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See. While there are a few out there, most however have the bulk of their graphcis compressed. | |||
Kyoufu Kawa Intends to keep Rom Hacking in one piece until the end Since: 11-18-05 From: Catgirl Central Station Last post: 6286 days Last view: 6286 days |
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There's still the whole palette misunderstanding...
Originally posted by Sigma |
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Celice Gordo Since: 11-17-05 From: Oroville, CA Last post: 6291 days Last view: 6287 days |
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At least there's built in palletes. Think of what would be said about having all black |
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