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Schwa Panser Embodiment of Good, infused with the Living Assets "Alpha Psibeam!" (echo effects)                   Since: 11-18-05 From: Tacoma, WA of the Material Plane; Crystal Psipalace Last post: 6540 days Last view: 6282 days |
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| OOC: I'm so dense. SHE was Sonance? Oops. Well, at least now I know...
"Whoa, you're GONE. ...Oh sorry, Dynamo, I had something on my-- The hell, you're gone too!? GAH." "Schwa! Got'cher Crecent Owl fer ya, right here on a platter! Wahahahaha!" "...You're the waiter AND the counter guy?" "Sure am, kid!" "...Thanks. MAN, these are good." "Ya go an' enjoy yerself! Wahahahaha!" Schwa stares at the dish known worldwide as Crecent Owl; it's meatloaf lightly coated in sauce made of a blend of Pineapple, Wackyfruit and Gyroglobe Tomate, served with mashed Geckovashi Turnip infused with a drop of Holy water and a touch of Chozo Millenium Spice. It is one of the most simple-to-make famous delicasies in the world. Schwa takes his first bite, then remembers to remove his blindfold at the table. Doing so reveals his happy-eyes from the 00ber good texture and taste of the food. |
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Forte.EXE When life seems to get bad, just suck it up and deal with it!    Since: 11-18-05 From: Singe City, Ajiina (Davenport, Iowa) Last post: 6281 days Last view: 6279 days |
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| OOC: Yeah, that is a future teaser of things to come Dracoon... in fact, there's an RP that's starting at the Story Board "Sonance - Of Souls and NetNavis".
"Thank you, please come again," NumberMan said as Dynamo exited the cyber chip shop of Electopia's Internet City. He couldn't help but jump for joy. "Yes, I have all three of the Django Chips: Django, DjangoSP, and DjangoDS. Yes! Now my Boktai collection is complete!!" "Dynamo?" The white haired Navi turned around at the sound of someone mentioning his name, and jumped. "RockMan!?" "There you are! I heard of a white haired Navi destroying part of Town Area 3 just to capture a bountyhead." "Ahh... noyoudidn'twellseeIgottagosobye!" Dynamo said as quick as he could and ran off at amazing speed, streaming out seconds later. RockMan just stood there sweatdropping. "All I was gonna ask if he can atleast help Blues, Axl and I fix up the damage..." RockMan shook his head before he streamed out of Internet City. |
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Schwa Panser Embodiment of Good, infused with the Living Assets "Alpha Psibeam!" (echo effects) Since: 11-18-05 From: Tacoma, WA of the Material Plane; Crystal Psipalace Last post: 6540 days Last view: 6282 days |
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OOC: I just feel SO sorry for Dynamo...  BTW, Forte, I'm really really enjoying that RP you started. 
Now for the introduction of my newest character. Here's nothin'... As Schwa happily consumes his meal, another figure walks into the Cafe. He's ALMOST 4 feet tall and furry, giving him a downright adorable face. His coat, pants and hat, the coat being COVERED with pockets, are all a light bluish-purple, and the hat's rim is a furry white ring, making it look comfortable to wear. He's also got a belt diagonally over his coat from the left shoulder to the right waist, where another belt is located in a normal position. The belts are buckled together, apparently. Over the coat is a computer-chip-painted vest, the shoes are jade-colored, and to top it all off, this character has a large red-orange ball of fur dangling over his head, and a pair of batlike, red-orange wings that are tattered around the edges. His species would only be known to some of the diners in this Cafe. 
He pops in, looking around in a curious manner. "Hmm... I wonder what kind of food they have here, kupo?" Some random Hyrule-ish Elven archer walking by hears his question and replies. "Everything." He's gone before the newcomer knows it, and this furry character is speechless. "Everything!? KupoPO! ...I really have to investigate this!" He approaches the counter. "Excuse me, but somebody told me you serve EVERYthing here. Not to be skeptical, kupo, but is that true?" "Sure is! Ha HA! Are you a Moogle, sonny?" "Ah, you've noticed! ...Yep, I'm a foreigner. My name is Yinns. I'm thinking of taking my wife out to dinner here, although we live pretty far away and I'd have to perfect my Pocket Teleporter first..." "Sounds like a great idea! But wait now, kid... Just how young does your kind marry?" "Kupo... I'm... I'm 34." "OH! Wahahahaha! Sorry about that... I don't read a lot, so I go by instincts, and sometimes they're wrong. It's hilarious! But yes, by all means, bring your wife! As for right now, are you in the mood for ordering something today?" "Kupo! Well, now that you mention it..." Yinns places his order and finds an empty table. "The service seems to be pretty good, kupo... Golly, I hope I don't look like an outsider to this burly bunch." He says his thoughts aloud without meaning to, plus the seats are open, and, well... |
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Forte.EXE When life seems to get bad, just suck it up and deal with it! Since: 11-18-05 From: Singe City, Ajiina (Davenport, Iowa) Last post: 6281 days Last view: 6279 days |
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".......... aaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!" The entire SB Cafe shakes violently, as somethign crashlanded outside in front of the building. Whatever it was made a large human shape crater in the ground... ... in fact, it was Dynamo, knocked out cold after he tried to grab Marino's rear again. * * * RockMan, Roll, Blues, Axl, Glyde, IceMan, GutsMan, Lumine, Forte, ForteZero, Spider, and Zero were gawking at Marino, who was twirling a supersized Hammer weapon. Their operators displayed the same shocked looks on their faces in the real world. "What? You saw what he tried ot do to me..." "Wasn't that going overboard?" ForteZero asked. "Uhh.... nope." Everyone sweatdropped. |
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Jack Skellington Bit  Since: 11-17-05 From: The Netherworld Last post: 6326 days Last view: 6316 days |
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| An iron-clad figure approached the cafeteria from the courtyard, floating gently a few inches above the concrete. From the distant diner, he... or it, was nothing more than a glimmer of sunlight that bounced off of the shiny armor, lit up with electric blue stripes. The figure stopped to indifferently glance at a human-shaped crater in the ground just outside of the restaurant.
"...Pathetic." Having offered these two cents, the figure turned its emotionless gaze away and toward the cafeteria, which it promptly floated to once more. Yet, as it reached the doors... it just vanished. Whaddya know. (edited by Jack Skellington on 04-10-06 09:02 PM) |
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Forte.EXE When life seems to get bad, just suck it up and deal with it! Since: 11-18-05 From: Singe City, Ajiina (Davenport, Iowa) Last post: 6281 days Last view: 6279 days |
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| The doors opened, and the female space Navi walks in, not minding anybody who may be staring at her. Of course, once passing by Schwa's table, Slur stops and takes a glance at the Psiwarrior, before she goes up to the front register, and orders herself a bottle of red wine, and then takes a seat across from Schwa.
"She glances at him once more, before she pours herself a glass and takes a small sip, then opens a emulation file called Visualboy Advance -- the cyber GBA appearing in her hands, and headphones -- and executes the ROM game she found in an alternate universe called "RockMan & Forte." |
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Schwa Panser Embodiment of Good, infused with the Living Assets "Alpha Psibeam!" (echo effects) Since: 11-18-05 From: Tacoma, WA of the Material Plane; Crystal Psipalace Last post: 6540 days Last view: 6282 days |
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| It isn't long before Schwa becomes highly curious about what Slur is doing...
As Slur plays her game, Schwa silently teleports behind her to watch. Dammit, he's SEEN this game before! In fact, a friend he made on a mission once taught him all about the game and the secrets in each level. As Slur's character, either RockMan or Forte, moves through TenguMan's level from the scrolling screen portion to the green balloons portion, Schwa scoffs. "You totally missed one of Dr. Light's CD's, Slur. Next time double-jump up there and grab the invisible ladder before moving on." He says it COMPLETELY out of the blue and rather fast, totally breaking the utter silence, and this might very well startle her and cost her a life on the spikes that the green balloons float towards, or a trip to the bottomless pit on the other side of the Y axis. 
Yinns looks up and smiles at this incident. He can't help but, "Kupo!" |
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Forte.EXE When life seems to get bad, just suck it up and deal with it! Since: 11-18-05 From: Singe City, Ajiina (Davenport, Iowa) Last post: 6281 days Last view: 6279 days |
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| Slur jumps lightly in her seat before she turns around, and see's Schwa. She narrows her eyes at him. "Oh, hey Schwa." She paused the game, and when she let go, it floated there in mid-air. She grabbed the bottle and downed the rest of the contents before she grabbed the GBA and continued playing.
OOC: I did that once with a 2 liter of Mountain Dew.  |
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Schwa Panser Embodiment of Good, infused with the Living Assets "Alpha Psibeam!" (echo effects) Since: 11-18-05 From: Tacoma, WA of the Material Plane; Crystal Psipalace Last post: 6540 days Last view: 6282 days |
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| Schwa watches a while longer, gets bored, and goes off to find another table. Yinns, on the other hand, is now intensely curious as to what Slur is up to. He casually strolls over...
"Kupo, it's... Ah, it's a handheld video game player. Hold on a second..." Yinns the Moogle takes a small silicon chip out of one of his coat pockets. He holds it with his index finger and thumb gently, and it gleams in the cafe light. "Ah... Yes, this should work in that machine of yours. If you have a second one of those handhelds, care for a game of SNES-ported Tetris Attack? Yes, I ported it to this chip so it would work for the Advance, with the company's permission of course, kupo." He sets the chip down on the table in front of Slur. "And this game is NOTHING like Tetris, by the way. Kupo!"  |
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Forte.EXE When life seems to get bad, just suck it up and deal with it! Since: 11-18-05 From: Singe City, Ajiina (Davenport, Iowa) Last post: 6281 days Last view: 6279 days |
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| Without saying a word, she snatches the gift she recieved, muttered a thanks and vanished in a swirl of cosmic energy, leaving behind an empty wine bottle and empty champaine glass. | |||
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Jack Skellington Bit Since: 11-17-05 From: The Netherworld Last post: 6326 days Last view: 6316 days |
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| There was a quick flash of ghastly green light in the cafeteria, and a wide-eyed Jack burst through the portal and caught his balance against a table, panting desperately out of habit instead of need for air. He'd seen terrible, terrible things. The otherworldly screams that issued from the portal muted as it closed obediently behind him.
Shakily, he walked forward to the counter, muttered an order, and then plopped down at the nearest bench. He quivered and mumbled to himself like a mad hobo, all the while scrutinizing a worn paper that he held in his trembling stitched hands. Jack: “…Rising fro-from his h-hold? This H-halloween-n-n? Oh God…” Completely forgetting about his order, Jack staggered out of the cafeteria and into the blinding sunshine, heading far away from the complex. He’d also forgotten his paper at the table, on which were some messy scribbles about some kind of soul-stealing demon called Ghost, an ancient spirit locked in the Netherworld, and directions to an old church that Jack was heading to next… (Read: Someone needs ta join my thread =\) |
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Forte.EXE When life seems to get bad, just suck it up and deal with it! Since: 11-18-05 From: Singe City, Ajiina (Davenport, Iowa) Last post: 6281 days Last view: 6279 days |
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| "Okay, so I may not be a staff member, but I am part of Staff for the .EXE Maverick Hunters (refer to Profile for further information). Now, since I know Grey will provide a link to the original post regarding Sim Battle Rules, I'd though I'd give a shot at some stuff regarding those said rules." The Black Shadow then vanished, and he reappeared in Grey's favorite Battle Stadium. Away from him is ForteZero, Forte's younger brother.
"For instance, my brother here will be the target. Now, there are rules you must follow when you enter a Sim-Battle. First is that you must be fair, and put some thought before executing your moves, and responding to attacks from your opponent. As a demonstration..." "Shooting Buster!" Forte morphed his arms into his buster weapons, and fired a barrage of plasma shots that rained in a spread fashion. Nearly around twenty to thirty shots total head towards the opponent -- ForteZero. "One is how you attack. Of course, you can also drag out a conversation before the actual fight begins but I'll skip it. Now since I launched an attack, my turn ends, and my brother's begins. There are certain outcomes from this scenario. One is that my brother avoids the attacks by blocking with a barrier technique, or dodging the attacks by speed alone, or some sort of combo of dodging and blocking," ForteZero grinned as he dashed about, avoiding the shots that came towards him. Those that came close to hitting him instead struck against the AT Field that he summoned to block out the attacks. "A second is that he dodges the attacks, but a few managed to hit home," The Black Shadow launched another barrage of plasma shots from Shooting Buster, in the same rain spread formation. The White Shadow zigzagged about, but a few shots has managed to land in direct hits. He only glared at his opponent. "But a third scenario is that he does this." Forte fired another barrage of plasma shots. This time, ForteZero teleported away from the hits, and reappeared away from the rain of plasma shots with the use of an Area Grab. Forte morphed his hands back, and sighed. "The third scenario is a form of teleportation, which is not allowed. Next, we have your powered attacks, abilities, techniques, whatever the hell you call 'em. When you want to perform a powered up attack to inflict higher forms of damage, you have to execute them in a series of charging turns. ForteZero?" ForteZero began to gather in energy into his right hand, as he begins charging up for a powerful attack. "Charging up for an attack is needed to execute your stronger moves, unless you have a certain ability that overrides that or something that performs recoil damage to you for performing such a powerful attack, as I demonstrate." Forte smirked as he flew towards his brother, his fist flaring with dark energy. ForteZero has finished his charged since a turn has passed, as he flew towards Forte. "Nova Force!" "EarthBreaker!" The two Shadows met in the middle, and their attacks collided with one another. They suffered high damage and were both blown away from one another, skidding to a halt three feet from each other. "Now, when ForteZero charged up for my signature move EarthBreaker, it requires a turn to charge up the energy needed. As for Nova Force -- which I stolen from my female clone Sonance with the use of my Get Ability Program -- it deals in powerful fire element damage to my opponent, and would normally require a turn to charge up energy. But since I didn't, it has a double-edged feeling to it; while I can attack right away with that move, it costs me some HP since it deals in recoil damage right back at me. Now for some rules that must be obeyed. First..." He snapped his fingers, and the white haired mercenary Dynamo suddenly dropped down before Forte on his rear. "Ow..." He got up, and dusted himself off, "Okay Forte, what's the big friggin' deal here?" "This is the annoying idiot Dynamo." The white haired Navi only gave Forte an annoyed glare, "He'll be my assistant for this next move of mine..." Dynamo then notices the camera that Forte was speaking to, "Now, as I said, there are certain rules that must be obeyed at all costs..." He brought up his right arm out from underneath his cloak, and his fist flared up before he clenched his fist tightly, disappating the energy flare, "One is godmodding your attacks." He grinned towards Dynamo, who looked back in fear. "Crap..." Forte floated high above the ground, as he gathered in a large amount of dark energy into his right palm, lifting it into the air. It collected and transformed into a very large sphere of energy. "Chaos Nightmare!" He launched it down towards Dynamo. "Shit..." The attack struck Dynamo as he was blown away screaming in his girly high-pitched tone of voice, creating a hole in the roof as he was literaly blown away, until he vanished in the sky. A few miles away, Dynamo reappeared, and crash-landed down into the ground, near the outskirts of Sim Battle City, dazed and unconscious inside a massive crater the shape of his body. "That was a form of godmodding, where you attack your opponent and declare that he/she was hit regardless of what he/she says. Godmodding is where you think that the opponent's attacks never hit, you miraculously dodge every attack he/she throws at you, and attack back with auto-hitting attacks. Well, as most of our Sim-Battle Veterans will aggree with me on this VERY IMPORTANT statement: godmodding is not tolerated, and could likely get you banned for not following the rules... I think." ForteZero sweatdropped. "Another thing that is illegal to do, is healing yourself of damage to continue fighting. You cannot heal yourself at all! You MAY heal your mana reserves, magical energy/points/ect, or in my brother's case, Weapon Energy for his Forte Saber Techs, but at all costs; healing your HP/LE/ect. is not allowed." "Well brother, there are lots of veterans who like a good Sim-Battle, like your friend Schwa." Forte only smirked. "And... as I'm sure these people who are viewing this video are aware of, us Maverick Hunters can also battle in another way that's not well known among the Sim-Battle Craze... Command Mission." An hour later of descriptions and how to use the Command Mission Battle Sequence, which I doubt no one could figure out the complexity of Command Mission... Forte blushed furiously. "What the (bleep) do you mean by that!?" "But Forte, there are certian people out there who find Slur/Forte romance fanfics to be cute! And romantic... much like how most Bokati fangirls love Django/Sabata romance fics," ForteZero replied. "Oh my god, PLEASE don't get me started on that! They just wished it was them who could be in those situations with the Solar boy and the Dark boy. I mean, take Noah for example; he's only eight, and there's alot of teen girls who are rushing at his side cause he's got his Docterate Degree in just about EVERYTHING, and he's accomplished soo much at such a young age. And the only girl you hooked up with gave her life even though she was one of the Generals of Neo Arcadia." ForteZero glared at him, trying to cover the blush creeping up on his face. "Hey idiots, we're back on the air," said a Lakitu holding a camera strung to a fishing line held to a fishing pole. The two blinked and faced the camera. "Oh! Well... hope you enjoyed that little video regarding the rules of Sim-Battles. Remember, Sim-Battles are fun, just take yoru time when you issure a challenge to someone, or you reply to a challenge set-up by somebody else." "Well, want to leave before Grey gets here and finds out that we slightly trashed the stadium during this demo?" ForteZero asked. Forte looked around, and noticed that he had dealt in quite an amount of damage to the stadium with his demonstration of the rules, a hole the shape of Dynamo in the roof, the ground cracked heavily, and some places missing a few marble tiles due to the fact of EarthBreaker and Nova Force colliding with one another an hour and a half ago. "Opps..." Forte chuckled lightly and logged out. ForteZero rested his right elbow on his left arm and pressed his right hand against his forehead, sweatdropping. *Ktzz!* The video goes blank, and the television switches off. The disc poppe dout from the C Drive, and he put it away in his pocket. The man turned around, and noticed he was given the death stare by Forte. He widen his eyes as he narrowly evaded a Darkness Overload, which destroyed the computer system. He was running for his life, as Forte was chasing after him, very hyper with the trigger of his buster weapons. "David! You idiot!!" "I'm sorry! I didn't know you had feelings for her!" "SHADDUP DAVID!!" Marino and ForteZero stood there, sweatdropping, watchign Forte chase after the armored Maverick Hunter. "Forte had a thing for Slur?" "Please... even I don't want to know," ForteZero said, sighing heavily. "That video did look real though. Can't believe it was all computer generated," Marino said, crossing her arms over her chest. "David's a smart guy, that's all. I just don't know how he'll survive the wrath of Forte," he said with a chuckle. Marino joined in a laugh or two. (edited by Forte.EXE on 05-08-06 04:14 PM) |
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Stephan Reiken Blipper  Since: 11-17-05 Last post: 6286 days Last view: 6279 days |
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| CrossFusion: "I wish to argue my point somewhere that I won't be yelled at for, and still get some feedback. So, here goes."
CrossFuison: "I do not think that such restrictions should be placed on Characters who copy other characters. I do not think that moves copied by other Characters should be any less stronger than other Characters, as this is mainly the feature of the Character who copies and should not be given such OOC restrictions. To the point, I am one of the weakest Sim-Battlers here. Why? Because I cannot use moves that I have not copied off of other Characters, therefore all of my attacks are retroactively weakened simply because I choose a specific kind of attack. My attacks are as strong as any other Character, because it would be God-Modding to have it any other way." CrossFusion takes a moment to steady his next thoughts. CrossFusion: "Point number two, 'The copied move cannot be a desperation or "key" attack.' Let me also refer to '(i.e. My character Garro's "Ascendance" attack, in which he releases a large amount of energy from his guns, which have been blessed by the faith he is currently channeling. As such, a nonpractitioner could not use this attack. It is also labeled as a desperation move, thereby making it subject to the other half of the rule.).' Part of my strength is to Take many strengths of my opponents, but it is reduced because I cannot take a "key" attack of my opponent. Now, I do agree that coping a desperation attack would also be a desperation attack, unless the resulting move was a much watered down move. But to my main point, since when do main stream video game Characters not copy "key" attacks? Take Kirby or Megaman, they both copy their opponents "key" attacks." CrossFusion: "And On to the concluding point, by no means should any character be limited in the Copying of any attack unless so stated in the Character. I am a Copy Character, I can copy Psychic moves and any other sort of move simply because of my altered dimensional properties. I wouldn't suddenly gain the power to lift things with my mind, but I can copy the ability to use a Psychic whip from a Psychic opponent. This is so because I can A) Connect my soul to my opponents, whether they like it or not B) Collect fragments of my Opponents Souls C) My body reengineers itself to copy attacks from my opponents D) I can store away copies of my Opponents data to pull over my body." CrossFusion: "However, contray to all of my points, I do agree that no move can be completely copied unless the owner of the move gives consent. Unfortunatly, this provides a problem for me. What if I join an FFA, and state my purpose, then someone else joins in but doesn't notice my strength.. then I copy them and they say no? I have to obliterate myself from the battle because someone couldn't read through the topic." |
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Skydude Armos Knight  Since: 02-18-06 From: Stanford, CA Last post: 6552 days Last view: 6552 days |
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| The magewarrior watched this newcomer rant a bit, and leaned on his sword before, in a rather loud but laid-back voice, he responded.
Sky: It's pretty simple, really. There are some moves and abilities that can't be copied simply because you don't possess those abilities. To use an analogy, if I'm really strong and pick up a 2000 pound block of stone, joe copymove can't go and do the same, simply because he doesn't have that strength. Similarly, I've studied for years to be able to magically form fire. It's not so much about forming fire per se, but about having the magical knowledge and understanding that allows that outward manifestation. You might know the moves to create the fire itself, but without the underlying concentration, discipline, and magical connection, that feat cannot be duplicated. A young individual clad in an exosuit covered by a black trenchcoat stepped forward and gave his own thoughts. Strato: As for the connection to the soul, the engineers in Tokyo-3 understood it surprisingly well. The AT field generated by each individual prevents the sort of connections you're talking about in order to steal the abilities of others and use them for yourself. You want to get strong, you learn how to be strong by yourself. This isn't to say that you can't learn from others, mind you. I, for example, have some limits in my magical abilities, but I've adapted some technology to mimic some of the things more magically-oriented folks can do. You work with your strengths, and you can do some of the same sorts of things. If someone uses a telekinetic attack to throw a large crate at a big brute, the latter can catch that crate and throw it back at the psychic. Different power, similar result. But if you don't have that strength, you can't do the move. It's just that simple. A young girl, clad in the odd combination of a green gi and draped magenta wizard robes talked to the newcomer from the other side of the room. Aether: The most important thing about move copying, though, is that it's dull and pretty ineffective! When I fight someone else, I like to see what kind of new stuff they've got to throw at me, and try to react to it and hone my fighting skills. It's a bore if they just throw back at me stuff I've already seen, or worse, stuff I've done myself. And if they do the latter, they won't get too far either. If someone uses a fire spell on me that utilizes the same magical connection I have, it's a snap for me to extinguish it, since I understand the principles at work and can act on the same level as it. I don't know about others, but if you use one of my own attacks on me you're in for a quick reversal and a beatdown, since any decent fighter knows how to counter herself in order to avoid giving the opponent that chance. Sky took his sword from the ground and looked at the newcomer again. His kids had spoken well. Sky: In short, don't try it. It's not going to work, and even if it did, it's not going to be very effective against anyone but the "n00biest" fighters. |
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Stephan Reiken Blipper Since: 11-17-05 Last post: 6286 days Last view: 6279 days |
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| CrossFusion: "My body does not perform exact copies as such, but it does copy the underlying talent that goes with single attacks. It can copy your ability to form Fire, but it gets it through its own precieved stengths and forms the attack, reengineering my own body for the attack to function if nessacary. For instance, you could throw a fireball at me, but once I've copied you ((And that takes time, mind you. I'm no instant Copycat)) I can launch fireballs out of my arm and produce the same results with my sword. Once I've connected with ones Soul, I gain abilities only based on the target, not always abilities said target has. Therefore, I'm not going to do all that."
CrossFusion: "But, my various Navi Upgrade Systems are more in depth, therefore could copy moves with little change from their original powers." CrossFusion: "And, more to the point, your agruement forwards my case. If such direct copying is always infierior, then it should be allowed." CrossFusion: "The most important thing about this is that no Sim-Battler is technically stronger than another, they are all considered evenly strengthed and only wit can come through to win a battle. Therefore, I should not be denied the strength of my attack simply because I copied it. Sure, I can't copy your finesse and it would easily be turned aside, but I can manipulate my newfound powers too. Such as recombination of powers to produce radically different results.." CrossFusion: "Finally, a word from my creator... 'I just feel like arguing the point. A creative copycat should not be denied his strength. Whether or not some move can be preformed isn't an issue, all things can be explained in the end for CrossFusion.' " |
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Skydude Armos Knight Since: 02-18-06 From: Stanford, CA Last post: 6552 days Last view: 6552 days |
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| The young man in the trenchcoat decided to field the question.
Strato: You seem to have missed my point. The soul is all but impenetrable to those with less than near-divine power. You can't "connect" with it and steal abilities as you seem to want to try to do. If I pound you into the ground, you can read the muscle movements involved, and perhaps even the electrical impulses in the brain that precede them, and perhaps duplicate the process yourself. Hell, if I have all the right scanners on and analyze the data, I can do that, even if not during the course of a hectic battle. The magewarrior continued where Strato had left off. Sky: When things like magic, psychic powers, and anything beyond the purely physical realm come into play, that data analysis goes out the window. They cannot be replicated with a simple "copying" technique because of their supernatural nature. If you were to somehow succeed in "connecting" with one's soul, it's impossible to look at the exact things that create the phenomenon we generally call "magic"...if you somehow broke the AT field you would find not that but everything, you would be overwhelmed by the entirety of another being's self flowing into your advanced sensory systems and would overload them and pretty much drive you insane. I've seen it happen, once. You need to be near-divine to do it...but you would need to be a god not to be destroyed in the process. The young girl concluded. Aether: You don't have the resources, and you can't tap into the soul to get them, even if you could indeed see the supernatural "plan" for the attack. It would be as if you had the blueprints for a skyscraper, but no girders to work with to build it. It just can't be done as you try it. If you see something that someone does and you want to try your own spin on it, that's fine. But if it really were as easy as just observing them for a bit and being able to do it, none of us would spend years training. You want to be strong, you've got to work for it. Can't just sit back and expect to be able to reap the benefits of what others do. |
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Schweiz oder etwas [12:55] (Dr_Death16); I swear, the word drama needs to be stricken from the dictionary, for I've heard it so many times, it will permanently be imprinted on my brain  Since: 11-17-05 From: Kingston, Rhode Island Last post: 6278 days Last view: 6278 days |
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| *FWEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEET!*
There's a loud whistle blown, and the auditeria goes completely silent as Grey, dressed in his white apron and janitorial gear, pops his head out from within the kitchens of the cafe. He's holding the whistle on the end of a lanyard, a mop in his other hand. Grey: "Yo, guys, just wanted to point something out... You all seem to have missed a clause. The one about how.... Ultimately, the allowed copies are from this point forward to be determined solely by the two battlers, and permission must be asked before copying takes place. .... Is the final deciding factor of copying. Those rules that were in that announcement are guidelines, not canon. If the other party does give permission, then the copying party is certainly allowed to do so. In regards to the other side of the dispute, CrossFusion's justification of his copying, well... I'm calling shenanigans on that one. Firstoff, unimpeded invasion of the soul does NOT work in several timelines: --Zerodius' timeline specifically states that souls are objects that can be manipulated only through near-godlike methods. --The Dracooniverse's Shen is a scion of the power of the soul, and would bitch-slap anyone who tried to do something like that to her. Copying desperation-type moves and adding them to your wide array of such is also something I have to call you on... The very idea behind a desperation move is that you're pouring everything you have into one final attempt to defeat your foe. Ideally, this comes in the form of singular mastery of whatever style of fighting your character uses. I used Garro's 'Ascendance' attack as an example because it represents him offering a sample of the perfection of his art: The channeling of the power of pure faith. However, it's unlikely that CrossFusion would be able to do this AND use his own moves AND possibly utilize the perfection of several other fighting styles at once without breaking the unspoken rule that you, Stephan, implied yourself: That all Sim-Battlers are of reasonably even strength. Copying underlying talent is a neat idea, one that I'd appreciate expansion upon. However, you can't just add a period of time-based activation to your powers either, since time in the Sim Battle Arena is relative. We have characters who are hundreds of thousands of years old, and characters who have just been created out of nothing. I say every five minutes that Janus has lived for 600000 years. He still looks like he's in his 20s. It should also be noted that Kirby only copies the base power of his foe, and that the rest of the applications of his moves are Kirby-based. That, and that he can copy desperation moves, but they are of limited use (Crash, Paint, Mic...). Megaman can only use the basic attacks from his Robot Master foes, unless he applies his own powers to them, modifying and charging them up. Now, CrossFusion... I'm not quite sure what kind of character he is. He seems, from your description, to be a Navi. This would imply that he is essentially nothing but manifest data. Since when does data have psychic power? Psychic power is, of course, just an example of the idea, but the trick is to use generalizations." Grey realized he was talking quite a bit, and so he got up on the podium in front of the lunch line, taking the mic in his hands for a second round... "There's a few special things that we can mention about characters in general around here: Everyone, EVERYONE has magical POTENTIAL. Except for characters who explicitly state that they don't, that is. Since magic is a part of nature, all things that exist in nature have that power within them. A copy character can potentially unlock the use of magic for their own purposes, but as it is in no way as controlled as the original's, it can follow that it does nothing more than unlock potential. Perhaps this potential can be shaped into the most basic of magical maneuvers and techniques, but it's hardly reasonable to assume that a character can instantly call upon a power that, to agree with Skydude, the original had gained through some clearly intensive means. So no, copying superpowerful moves and expecting to be able to master them instantly is not in any way reasonable. The character may just not be experienced enough! Now, similarly, that is not to say that I agree entirely that a character can't just copy moves left and right and up and down. I'd actually like to turn all of your attention to a very famous veteran of the Sim Battle: Jarukoth. If you don't know who he is, lurk more. All of his awesome is documented and explained in the old Sim Battle Archives. He was a character who, utilizing the power of the Sharingan Eye, was able to copy nearly any move that he was able to observe. Currently, my character Kalar is capable of the same thing (though to neither the same extent nor the same method as Jarukoth), if you need a more recent example. However, Jarukoth didn't simply blow his foe's attacks back at them. He attacked and retained that knowledge, expanding his own array AND utilizing his opponent's moves in his own strategies. He kept moves to use later on. He analyzed fighting styles and used those for evasive and defensive purposes, as well. He had his own wide variety of moves, as well, and used them in some interesting combinations. His reasoning behind it? He was able to manipulate a type of all-encompassing energy, Chakra, to do what he desired, whenever he learned it. The use of generalizations like this is not only legal, but the standard for the idea of copying moves, period. If you really feel the need to copy a move, retain it! Use it alongside other moves! Draw from your own strength to adapt to the usage of the move! But don't instantly assume you're as powerful as the original user, either... You instead have variety over power. The purpose of a blue mage is to become versatile, and able to fight several foes in a different style each time. It is NOT to become as strong as everyone else, because that is ultimately impossible anyway. Not without breaking the rules. Sorry, Steph... Hard work beats pure talent. But I'll grant you your copying argument in part. Consider yourself a legal copy character, as long as you don't go too far, or your victories stem purely from the fact that you're using your foe's exact strategies against them. You are right, wit alone is the deciding factor in a battle." He swept his gaze to Forte, as well. "And another thing. I loved that video, but you're forgetting that there is a minor allowance for healing: As most characters in the SB don't have lifebars, healing can be allowed to staunch wounds (the damage that's done isn't necessarily reversed), regenerate lost limbs, save a character from near-death, or treat fast-acting and lethal diseases or poisons (kind of a desperation healing move, to reference...) in a situation where there is no other alternative to ensuring the character's survival." Then came a slightly darker gaze that was cast on the Sky Crew. "To you guys, I can only say one thing: We don't have a singular standard for magical, mental, or technological properties, as is exemplified by the wide variety of original fighters that we have here. It IS entirely possible to analyze magical properties, it just takes a different degree of analysis which may not even apply to the world that you fellows come from. You may be declared as immune to any kind of nonphysical analysis, but arcane knowledge isn't necessarily completely locked off to observation. Not to everyone, anyway. I mean, there's energy signatures, ritualistic knowledge, reverse engineering for magical manifestation, and a whole load of other ways to figure out how to use magic. Why would guns that fire magic in shells or any other kind of indirect use of magic exist otherwise? Feel free not to use that idea, but they're all suggestions for ways that a character could copy magic. Again I say they may not even apply to you (an appreciable old school approach, I'm impressed), but to some, that could qualify as canon." Grey clears his throat, and explodes in a shower of beef bouillon. Grey (over loudspeaker): "By the way, today's special will be Beef Stew. Enjoy your meals and happy battling!" |
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Skydude Armos Knight Since: 02-18-06 From: Stanford, CA Last post: 6552 days Last view: 6552 days |
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| Sky raised a finger at Grey's remarks.
Sky: I should note that I wasn't saying that it's impossible to read magic signatures, nor were my children. My point was merely that the full extent cannot be quantified to the extent that the move could be copied, due, as was explained, to the necessity of the magical/psychic/whatever abilities of the individual. You can see the magic itself, but the connection of an individual that determines how that magic comes to the world cannot really be observed, at least not in the heat of battle, especially if the individual does not open himself up to such a thing. |
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Schweiz oder etwas [12:55] (Dr_Death16); I swear, the word drama needs to be stricken from the dictionary, for I've heard it so many times, it will permanently be imprinted on my brain Since: 11-17-05 From: Kingston, Rhode Island Last post: 6278 days Last view: 6278 days |
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| Grey reappeared in a puff of smoke next to Sky.
Grey: "In that case, I would think it would be EASIER to tap into the basic connection between the magic and the individual, since "in the heat of battle", they'd be much less concerned with guarding their power and more concerned with their own survival." He paces back and forth as he continues on. "Power is relative to the user. In fact, Kirbynite explained this to me quite well once; He accidentally triggered his copy ability on a Saiyajin, of all things. In doing so, he had gained the capability to use the Saiyajin's powers, adapted in a manner such that his own body was capable of generating the necessary elements required to make him akin to the Saiyajin. You are saying that magic is complex and difficult to understand. But you are also forgetting that there is a possibility that the copier and his ability to copy may very well be moreso, and thus better suited for handling the changes associated with a copy, and an adaptation of the advantages gained by these changes relative to the copier's own power. Again, I state that I am of the more conservative racket, that copied magic is nothing more than potential energy, but what if CrossFusion, to use an example, really is capable of doing anything, but has no knowledge of his own power and therefore learns from others? It seems just as plausible as your argument that there is no way to fully understand the extent of magical ability." |
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Stephan Reiken Blipper Since: 11-17-05 Last post: 6286 days Last view: 6279 days |
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| CrossFusion: "The connection to the Soul, I never said it could not be blocked. Anything can be stopped with the nessacary resources. I'll have to redesign myself a bit, I see the points of your arguements. ((My Profile is up, a simple one that descibes myself more or less. Page 1 of the Profiles.)). I may not be a master of the powers that I copy, but they aren't always going to be weaker versions. I am a Repoid/Navi, manipulation of pure energy is my specialty. Mostly shooting things out of my Buster or Enchancing my Sword. And using Nova-type attacks."
CrossFusion: "I can copy anything and everything, within reasonable limts of my own body. I won't copy Desperation moves often or compelely, my body would have to be in Desperation to pull it off and use my own Desperation move to gain it. Look at my Desperation move, its just begging to lose the battle, its for gaining more strength after my battles so the Next one goes over better. Anything can be imitated so that it resembles the original thing and thus I stand by that I can copy a Psychic attack. It would still be a Psychic-type move, but its not like I suddenly have complete mastery over moving things with my mind, just pulling off a trick or two. I can copy the supernatural, including passive abilities. I am a Copier, therefor I can copy. But, I will keep in mind that not everything I copy will be completely compatable with myself, and those attacks won't be nearly as strong as I like." CrossFusion: "Come, fight with me so I can test out my theroies and start my Sim-Battle experience. I may not win my first FFA, in fact I don't plan on it, but I will try anyway." |
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