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Tarale    2710 Affected by 'Princess Bitch-Face Syndrome' ++++!! Persona non grata                   Since: 11-17-05 From: Adelaide, Australia Last post: 6306 days Last view: 6306 days |
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| My computer periodically hates me. I'd previously chalked the problem up to overheating (after careful monitoring, this is not the case).
The behaviour is consistent with CPU overheat. Basically you're working one minute, and the next the entire thing has frozen. The mouse won't move, nothing moves, nothing does anything. You get to see the screen, but for all intensive purposes the machine has just stopped. Like somebody pressed a "pause" button on it. I know the problem is not airflow or overheat, the CPU temperature is a very mild 43 degrees Celcius (109.4) and reaches a very safe maximum of 48 degrees. I know the problem is not RAM. I have extensively tested the RAM and there were no errors. The problem is not the HDD / RAID array. It's recently been mirrored and would not have allowed that to happen if there were a serious fault. Motherboard was also tested as part of RAM test and no errors. Capacitors on motherboard are not bubbled or otherwise misshapen, no burn marks or anything unusual. CPU will be tested extensively overnight. My videocard is in the process of being tested, but it is one of the things that I will consider suspect until proven otherwise. My network is onboard; but this is another thing I suspect.... see, it crashes frequently when transferring large amounts of data. When I can get my hands on a network card I will install it and test to see if I can throw a few gig around the network without it throwing a hissy fit (like it almost always does now) My TV tuner card is fine. Problems occur with or without it. Any clues anybody?  |
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neotransotaku Sledge Brother Liberated from school...until MLK day   Since: 11-17-05 From: In Hearst Field Annex... Last post: 6308 days Last view: 6306 days |
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| Is the CPU heatsink dust free? I remember before I vacuumed the dust out my CPU's heatsink, the computer was unstable. After I did that, stability returned... | |||
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Tarale 2710 Affected by 'Princess Bitch-Face Syndrome' ++++!! Persona non grata Since: 11-17-05 From: Adelaide, Australia Last post: 6306 days Last view: 6306 days |
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| Yeah, it's pretty clean. It's also perhaps worth noting that I have a larger than usual heatsink on my CPU. I also have a larger than usual fan on my video card.
Both video card and CPU were tested overnight. No errors on either. Dammit, could it be the onboard network that is doing this? I can almost guarantee a crash if I try to throw a few gig about the network... In short, I've checked every other fkn component of the computer and I think I'm down to the problem being onboard network? Everything else is fine, also have a decent power supply too.... :-/ Ca'arn.... somebody knows this, right? (edited by Tarale on 02-21-06 06:42 PM) |
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neotransotaku Sledge Brother Liberated from school...until MLK day Since: 11-17-05 From: In Hearst Field Annex... Last post: 6308 days Last view: 6306 days |
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| I'm sure you have tried updating the drivers for the network card. Otherwise, you could try an OS reinstall? But that would have suggested corrupt drivers in the first place. | |||
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Tarale 2710 Affected by 'Princess Bitch-Face Syndrome' ++++!! Persona non grata Since: 11-17-05 From: Adelaide, Australia Last post: 6306 days Last view: 6306 days |
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| Machine was reinstalled on the weekend (due to the Hard Drives having been switched from a stripe RAID config. to a mirrored one). Problem has survived several reinstalls and Ghosts and as such I believe problem to be hardware, not software.
Problems existed prior to reinstall, as well as after. Current chipset drivers and network drivers all installed; latest from MSI website. (Network is onboard) |
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Sukasa Birdo Not quite as active as before. Xkeeper supporter Xk > ||bass I IP Banned myself! Twice!  Since: 11-17-05 From: Somewhere over there Last post: 6307 days Last view: 6306 days |
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| Yeah, judging by that it's either your network card, or is there any hardware you haven't tested yet? You didn't mention any sound device... | |||
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Tarale 2710 Affected by 'Princess Bitch-Face Syndrome' ++++!! Persona non grata Since: 11-17-05 From: Adelaide, Australia Last post: 6306 days Last view: 6306 days |
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| Sound is onboard too. Seems to be fine AFAIK, no errors at least seem to be caused by the use of sound (as opposed to relatively consistent problems when transferring files).
Other devices include a TV tuner which is not the problem. Problems existed prior to its installation and have not been either improved or worstened by the installation of the TV tuner card. TV reception however has become a LOT better, owing to the fact that I now get TV.
Monitor is also fine. |
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Ailure Mr. Shine I just want peace...  Since: 11-17-05 From: Sweden Last post: 6306 days Last view: 6306 days |
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| I actually had a onboard network adaptor that didn't work 75% of the time (Computer didn't recnoize it) and when it worked, the machine seemingly randomly with bluescreens or freezes or something. (It's been awhile)
Our solution? We just used a spare network card, and deactivated the onboard one. The problems was gone. REmember, this was a computer that was from dads job. It was going to be thrown out, but it's that type of computer that is good enough for chatting, surfing and playing a few old games without problems.
If you have the space, and is able to... test a seperate Network card. Remember, they're quite cheap nowdays due to it's popularity rising with broadband (and with the fact that Home-LAN's are quite common nowdays) |
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emcee Red Super Koopa Since: 11-20-05 Last post: 6306 days Last view: 6306 days |
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Originally posted by Tarale Yeah, I had a similar problem a while back. The sound quality on my mp3s was terrible, but I installed a sound card and now they sound infinitely better. Anyway if you're looking for a new NIC, here is a pretty good deal, with $4 3 day shipping: here |
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BMF54123 Since: 11-18-05 From: MOOGLES Last post: 6306 days Last view: 6306 days |
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| Do you know what chipset the board is running? I have an MSI board with a VIA KT400A chipset, and apparently they have all sorts of terrible PCI timing issues. I experienced frequent, unexplained lockups until I replaced my Sound Blaster PCI512 (based on the Live! chipset, which doesn't get along with VIA hardware) and installed a PCI latency patch, which is supposed to crank a few chipset registers down to "sane" values. If you're running a VIA chipset, try searching for "george breese pci latency" on Google. The patch is rather old, though, and might not work on newer chipsets. | |||
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Tarale 2710 Affected by 'Princess Bitch-Face Syndrome' ++++!! Persona non grata Since: 11-17-05 From: Adelaide, Australia Last post: 6306 days Last view: 6306 days |
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Originally posted by BMF54123 EX Alpha + Chipset is VIA, KT6V. Searched for that on that site and couldn't find it. This sounds similar to the problem: The computer stops when copying to or from an IDE DVD, CDROM, or CDRW drive However it's hard drives and they are SATA. Do you know if there is a way to uninstall this patch if I try it and it fails or causes problems? EDIT: I have now flashed the BIOS and also updated some more drivers. See how things go.... (edited by Tarale on 02-22-06 07:46 AM) (edited by Tarale on 02-22-06 04:34 PM) |
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HyperHacker Star Mario Finally being paid to code in VB! If only I still enjoyed that. <_< Wii #7182 6487 4198 1828 Since: 11-18-05 From: Canada, w00t! My computer's specs, if anyone gives a damn. STOP TRUNCATING THIS >8^( Last post: 6306 days Last view: 6306 days |
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| Which OS do you use? If it's Windows, a faulty driver could cause this. I'd also suggest finding what causes freezing most often, and removing one component at a time and trying to get it to freeze; once it stops, add them back one at a time, and keep trying different combinations. If you're lucky it'll only be a single defective device, though it could be two or more that don't like being together. Another possible cause is power problems, be it a failing PSU or the AC outlet.
I would look into getting a PCI network card, though. I have an MSI K8T Neo-V, and absolutely nothing even recognizes the onboard network most of the time. Sometimes it shows up in Windows, but doesn't work (always says the cable is unplugged). Interestingly the same happens with floppy drives, which always claim to have no disk inserted in any OS. |
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Tarale 2710 Affected by 'Princess Bitch-Face Syndrome' ++++!! Persona non grata Since: 11-17-05 From: Adelaide, Australia Last post: 6306 days Last view: 6306 days |
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| Well, I haven't had a crash in some time.
I have discovered a fairly obscure little problem with the KT6V and the Barton Core CPU's, which I have both of. BIOS update hopefully resolved said obscure issue.... Come to think of it, I don't think I had any system stability problems until the day I installed the Athlon XP 3000+ (Barton Core) and the video card. I'd just been leaning toward the videocard being the problem. |
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