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Posted on 02-19-06 08:17 PM Link | Quote
Yeah, I'm having some problems with this. I have an old AT pentium-S CPU at 150Mhz w/ 32Mb of RAM. I'm trying to get the Win98 CD to load, but all I ever get is the startup menu, at which I can choose to boot off the Hard drive, or bott off the CD. If I boot off the hard drive, everything works fine, MS-DOS loads and then WIN3.1 loads up. Unfortunately, if I pick to boot from the CD, the screen just goes black with a flashing cursor in the corner, and nothing happens. The CD-ROM drive spins down and the computer freezes, except for the cursor and the keyboard lights.

I know the problem isn't the disc, because I've installed win98 on my computer with that disc, and it hasn't been scratched or anything since then.

Could anyone help with this?
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Posted on 02-19-06 08:21 PM Link | Quote
Weird.

You SHOULD be able to do it.

I mean, I have it installed on my old Intel Pentium I 133mhz computer (32mb RAM).

I don't why you couldn't.
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Posted on 02-19-06 09:12 PM Link | Quote
Sounds like a defective CD drive, or it doesn't have the proper drivers to be able to read it. If you go into DOS (not from Windows; use the startup menu) can you access the CD, or any others?

Also many old drives won't read CDRWs.


(edited by Hyper LOL - + on 02-19-06 08:13 PM)
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Posted on 02-20-06 05:24 AM Link | Quote
Well, its definately not the the computer specs, the minimum requirements for Windows 98 are 75mhz and 16mb of ram, I know because I've seen the error message you recieve if you don't meet these requirement.
I tend to get annoyed when people respond to my technical question on a message board by suggesting I do something completely different, but appartently that isn't enough to stop me from doing it myself. Unless there's a good reason for you not to, I would suggest Windows NT 4.0, or even Windows 2000. I know the minimum processor requirements for Windows 2000 is 133mhz, but I'm not sure what the memory requirements are, but I'm pretty sure it would run ok with 32mb as long as you don't run a bunch of other stuff, but this is true for Windows 98 as well.
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Posted on 02-20-06 06:31 AM Link | Quote
Are you sure the Win98 CD is bootable? I'm pretty sure mine isn't (although it is the upgrade version)...

Your best bet would be to make a Win98 startup floppy on another machine, boot from that (make sure you choose "start computer with CD-ROM support"), then switch to the CD and run SETUP.EXE. That's how I've always done it.
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Posted on 02-20-06 06:32 AM Link | Quote
Have you tried simply booting into Windows 3.1, then going to the command prompt and running setup from there?

Or, also, navigating to the CD-ROM drive in W3.1 and executing the setup program?

It's very possible Win 98 wasn't made to be booted from the CD; I've never seen it installed that way (only from pre-existing versions like 95)... but, then, I've never had a computer prompt me for it before (only when installing 2000).
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Posted on 02-20-06 07:19 AM Link | Quote
I dunno for Win98, but Win98SE was bootable, and could be installed from CD (done it a thousand time because of broken floppy drive)
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Posted on 02-20-06 01:27 PM Link | Quote
I've installed fresh from that CD before... I dunno. I'll try going into it though windows, and DOS can read the drive, although I had to get used to it's drive indentifiers (CD-ROM is A:\, floppy is B:\, HD is C:\...)

Also, the disk isn't a RW. What really confuses me is that a few months ago, I tried this and failed, but the Win98 disk actually made it farther into the setup program before freezing...

I'll have another few goes at this. Besides, I booted from the CD by changing the BIOS settings, so DOS had nothign to do with the bott at first, AFAIK.

EDIT: This is stupid. It's definitely not the disc, because it's in fine condition, and it's a CD-R. I tried running the autoexec.bat file on the CD, but it told me that the drive "OEMCD001" , well, maybe with one more "0", was not found. This is stupid. The disc works on every other computer I've used it on, but not this one.


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Posted on 02-20-06 09:35 PM Link | Quote
When you say DOS can read it, how much did you try? You should at least do 'dir /s *.*' and see if it reports any errors that may indicate a drive failure.

Also, did you try running the setup program from DOS?
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Posted on 02-20-06 10:38 PM Link | Quote
Does anything else boot from CD on that computer?

My money's on a CD drive failure, but then I've had that problem so many times myself and it drives me nuts. Particularly if the CD drive works in Windows but won't let anything else actually BOOT off it.
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Posted on 02-21-06 01:30 AM Link | Quote
DOS can read the CD fine (Dir A:\), and run autoexec.bat off it... but that just gives me the "OEMCD0001" problem once autoexec starts and clears the screen. Wierd though, that the command "edit A:\autoexec.bat" loads the file up fine.

I'll try a different CD drive, but as for the HD... I got mad, and ran fdisk on it. No more DOS.
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Posted on 02-22-06 12:33 AM Link | Quote
Sounds like a driver issue. I recommend you try what BMF54123 EX Alpha suggested and use a Win98SE boot floppy. This will gladly load the Oak universal CD-ROM driver, which may allow you to use the setup program.

You can get said floppy at BootDisk.com. I recommend the Win98SE OEM image found on this page



If worse comes to worse, however, take the hard drive out of that computer and put it in another computer. Install Win98, then put the hard drive back in the target machine. Win98 will detect any hardware changes for you. At least you can get it installed that way.
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Posted on 02-23-06 07:07 AM Link | Quote
For how long did you wait before you decided that the computer was frozen? Because I've installed Windows 98 where I had to wait 5 or even 10 minutes before the setup started.
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Posted on 02-23-06 09:22 PM Link | Quote
1 minute... but before you critisize me, I based that off a previous 5-second Max. performance by the exact same hardware (or so I should think) before. either way, that boot disk was able to get me into setup, before I shut the computer down because I needed to get to sleep.
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Posted on 02-24-06 09:00 AM Link | Quote
Then i would wait longer becouse it doesnt seem that u waited enough.
Becouse i had a Window 95 on a computer and upgraded to XP and it took a half our before setup occured. samething with a freinds i upgraded his from windows 3.1
to Windows 98 and it took 20 minutes to start.


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Posted on 02-27-06 03:41 PM Link | Quote
nah, I got the setup to come up with the boot disk... it took all of 5 seconds, with the CD-ROM drive's spin-up time.
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