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Posted on 12-02-05 07:26 PM Link | Quote
If you're a Harry Potter fan, of course it is. If not, then you'll probably not have as much interest.
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Posted on 12-03-05 07:24 AM Link | Quote
Cruel Justice - If you're not a HP fan then you might have some trouble understanding it to be honest You will have no clue what Quidditch is for instance.

I saw it again the other day (for free- AND got paid for it!). It's grown on me

It bodes well for the next film though, you'll see then why they've had to bulk up the character of Neville a bit.
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Posted on 12-03-05 03:07 PM Link | Quote
I've been thinking on Cho Chang. I've realized why I don't like the actress playing her! Her face is too round and her voice is just heinous. I imagined Cho Chang to have caught Harry's eye on a very sweet, cute look. Michelle just doesn't fit the image. The actress' may indeed be attractive, but she just doesn't work.

Oh and the gratuitous Ron and Harry without shirt shots.

Oh and I should've been in that movie as a Slytherin or something. I'm a big guy and I have an ogrish face with a gorilla like gait. I woulda been perfect.
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Posted on 12-04-05 01:06 AM Link | Quote
I've been a Harry Potter fan for like, 6 years, and number 4 is my favorite book. The movie is really good, much better than 3 was, anyway. There were some parts that I just found funny, because they looked rediculous. Especially the Portkey part. When Mr. Weasly, Mr. Diggory, and Cedric come out of the sky, I was laughing my ass off, and everyone in the theater was staring at me.
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Posted on 12-04-05 02:09 AM Link | Quote
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Especially the Portkey part. When Mr. Weasly, Mr. Diggory, and Cedric come out of the sky, I was laughing my ass off, and everyone in the theater was staring at me.

I couldn't help but laugh at that scene also, the portkey was very different from what I imagined it to be. I thought they were sucked into the portkey, not spinned around in a sort of whirlwind.
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Posted on 12-04-05 02:51 AM Link | Quote
That's exactly how I imagined the portkey. And I was shocked at how close it was in the movie to my imagination.
It was quite funny, I'll give you that.
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Posted on 12-04-05 02:45 PM Link | Quote
I always imagined it to take them into some vortext thingy, and then they appear at their destination after a few seconds.

Oh, and the maze was a huge dissapointment to me. They left out so much to it. In the book, there are all kinds of dangers, like Demontors, Blast-ended Skrewts, Giant Spiders, and mists that make you dizzy and stuff, oh, and a sphynx, but it was all left out.
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Posted on 12-04-05 08:03 PM Link | Quote
The Portkey was exactly how I imagined it. The whole whirlwind thing is to the point.

As for the maze, well, the way it was portrayed didn't bother me. The whole "The maze is your enemy' thing looked nice.

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Posted on 12-04-05 08:10 PM Link | Quote
I was a bit disappointed about the maze too.. I really enjoyed the book version of what happens in there, the spiders and sphynx.. but oh well. The maze trying to eat them all the time was pretty cool still.
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Posted on 12-12-05 01:18 AM Link | Quote
(OK. I think I'm done editing the post now. My first impression of the movie was "pretty good", but something about it bothered me, so I wanted to revise my opinion after I had a chance to think some more.)

. I finally saw it. I thought it was entertaining overall, but I'm glad I read the book first because otherwise I may have been confused. I also have strangely mixed feelings about the entire thing. On one hand, I laughed a lot and was very happy with the way that various favorite characters were portrayed (mainly Fred and George Weasley and Mad-Eye Moody). I felt that there were many good scenes. However, the movie is rather annoying in some regards. It doesn't come across like a cohesive adaptation - it's more like a series of vignettes in chronological order - so it left me feeling rather empty. I knew that they couldn't put every single subplot of the book into a feature-length movie, but there must have been some way to condense Harry's dreams, the Triwizard Tournament and its conclusion, and teenage wangst into a storyline that felt more like a year at Hogwarts instead of just a bunch of scenes.

And now for a list of random thoughts on specific aspects of the movie...

Mad-Eye Moody pwned. He was comical, scary, and snarky all at the same time.

Snape never gets to talk enough. WE WANT MORE SNARK!

Krum's introduction at the Quidditch World Cup cracked me the hell up because it looked like Soviet propaganda. There was lots of unintentional humor in this movie. And lots of intentional humor, which fit with the tone of the books. (One of the reasons I enjoy the HP series is that there is lots of slapstick and other silly goings-on throughout the books.) Fred and George are awesome. I LOVED that part where Professor McGonagall was teaching Ron how to dance and he was embarrassed as all hell and Fred and George just would not let up. And when Ron was fanboying over Krum at the World Cup, they teased him about being in love. What else are big brothers for? And that dress robe is even worse in the movie than it was in the one picture I saw. Wow. Poor Ron.

I like Neville. He's as endearingly dorky and awkward and earnest as I imagined him to be when I was reading the books.

I practically cheered when I saw the POTTER STINKS badges. I was so glad that that detail made it in...and they were much more amusing than what I had conceptualized.

The Durmstrang guys are TEH HAWT. And their uniforms rule.

I really enjoyed the scenes with Hagrid and Madame Maxime. You really got the sense that they were getting all warm and fuzzy for each other...and Hagrid even had a hideous spotted tie.

EW EW EW I could so have done without Moaning Myrtle's lechery. I can't remember if that was in the book or not, but if it was, they should have dispensed with it. BLECH.


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You know, I saw it and I did like it, but the movie didn't feel right, not when stacked against the last ones. It felt like some sort of element was missing, and I still cannot put my finger on it.

One scene that really pissed me off and wasn't needed (now mind you, I didn't read the book so I'm not sure if this scene was in it) was when the "rock band" (or whatever they were playing) were in the stage and it seemed like something out of a bad teen movie than a fantasy/magical one. But then again, that could just be me.
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Posted on 12-17-05 02:43 AM Link | Quote
It's interesting how we basically came out of the movie with the same opinion. I think part of the not-right feeling has to do with the choppiness, but there's more to it than that. It seems to me that they didn't have a good sense of knowing where to start and stop scenes. For instance, the Quidditch World Cup sequence could have taken a couple of minutes to show snippets of the game as it progressed, condensing it from start to Ireland's win, but it went right from "kickoff" into merriment. I knew from the book that the game was over, but it seemed like it would be confusing to people without that prior knowledge.

I also have strangely mixed feelings on seeing scenes from the book brought to life. On one hand, I very much enjoyed various portrayals of well-liked characters (Mad-Eye Moody, Fred and George, what little we saw of Snape), but on some level, it felt like the movie ruined what the book was like in my mind. Because of the heavy dose of slapstick sprinkled throughout the books, I tend to get manga-like mental images when reading them, and though the movie did contain lots of fun humor, there was none of the visual exaggeration that I tend to create in my mind (example: at one point, Hermione is described as having tears streaming down her front, which made me think of typical anime character waterworks). Then again, Ron's facial expressions fit with that style of mental imagery, so his character worked for me as well. Harry and Hermione just seemed...there, though, and not particularly interesting.

I'm actually rereading books 4 through 6 right now. I can't remember enough about 4 to really compare it with the movie (I especially wanted to refresh my memory of characters' personalities - I didn't remember Krum being a brainless jock in the book), and 5 and 6 (especially 5) are a blur.

As I recall, a rock band called the Weird Sisters did perform at the Yule Ball in the book, but I remember reading that scene and thinking it seemed out of place. The ball came across as some sort of formal big deal, so letting loose with a rock band didn't make sense to me. And in the movie, the band seemed like yet another random detail thrown in for the sake of being true to the book. I agree with you that it should have been axed. When you're trying to adapt a LONG book into a feature-length movie, methinks it's best to go for cohesiveness and overall effect. The Lord of the Rings movies managed this well. I didn't have much trouble following the movies despite having never read the books. Granted, I didn't understand some character motivations in Fellowship of the Ring because it glossed over how the fellowship formed - it was just there - but the movie had a flow to it and generally made sense.
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I actually didn't like this one as much. It's the first one I've watched after reading the book (I read the book on Tuesday, saw the movie on Wednesday), but there were a few things that irked me:

-Too much cut out of the troubles between Ron, Harry, and Hermoine
-Not enough shown of Harry's feeling horrible leading up to the Tri-Wizard Cup
-Dumbledore was too forceful in his role. I picture him being the epitome of calm (Kinda like old Obi-Wan), except for choice moments. This one just felt too... forced.
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Posted on 12-17-05 12:43 PM Link | Quote
Originally posted by NSaintNick

-Dumbledore was too forceful in his role. I picture him being the epitome of calm (Kinda like old Obi-Wan), except for choice moments. This one just felt too... forced.


Damn right.

The whole freak out he did when he confronted Harry after his name came out of the Goblet seem over-acted.

Like you said, Dumbledore is suppose to be the rock of the book. The one you can trust in, and such. It seemed like he was one scene away from a nervous breakdown. Dumbledore is going senile!
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I have read every single HP book and loved them all. However when it comes to the movies...I cannot stand them. I have yet to see number 3 though, so I've only seen 1, 2, and 4. I can say I was honestly bored with number 4 up until Lord Voldemort appears again.

I found many parts hilarious that weren't meant to be funny. During the World Cup Harry gets kicked in the face and passes out when all the fire is being casted. One thing that made me question is: If there are over 1000+ wizards there and about 9 dark wizards are attacking, how come everyone is running away? I'd understand if it were 1000+ muggles running away but wizards??? COME ON!! Cast some magic back and kick their asses!!!

Ahem...anyway...I still think Daniel Radcliffe is an atrocious actor. To me it seems like he has not gotten any better since the first movie. I can see that the actors playing Ron and Hermione have indeed improved in acting. But Daniel, to me, has not. Of course this is all my opinion. Also one more thing about the acting...I CANNOT STAND the new Dumbledore. The first one was everything I pictured Dumbledore to be. This new one well just plain sucks! The way they portray him is just horrendus. I dunno, I just did not like him.

As I said before, I love the books but the movies I just hate and this one was no different.
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Posted on 12-19-05 12:07 AM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Zubatron
One thing that made me question is: If there are over 1000+ wizards there and about 9 dark wizards are attacking, how come everyone is running away? I'd understand if it were 1000+ muggles running away but wizards??? COME ON!! Cast some magic back and kick their asses!!!



You read all the books and you question this?

Seriously. It's not the numbers that scare people. It's fear itself. Fear of Voldermort and his return. The DeathEaters are a symbol of his power. The flee from them because of the fear and memories implanted from the previous time Voldemort came to arise.

It really isn't as simple as "Cast some magic and kick theri asses"

People are panicking. Even if 20 wizards decide to take on the Death Eaters, deaths would occur. There is panic, people are running for their lives. You can't expect 20 able wizards appear out of nowhere and fight the DE. Safety first.

By able wizards, I mean wizards trained to protect or fight or with a basic knowledge of what to do. Just because you can do magic means you can fair well against someone who has trained in the Dark Arts.

There are many reasons and explanations to why it is a bad idea to charge head first into a battle with Death eaters but I won't state them all. They should be obvious.

Man, I really post too much in this thread. Might as well name the damn thread "Harry Potter, discuss whatever you want!"
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Posted on 12-19-05 12:11 AM Link | Quote
Yeah I understand where you're coming from. It has been about a year since I've read book 4. But I also thought there were people from the Ministry there. But were any of them Aurors?
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It's possible some WERE Aurors, but the attack came from nowhere, and most of the security was of the anti-muggle sort.
Also the main reason that no one attacked the D.E's was that there were so many kids there. if I was at the World Cup with my family - I'd make sure they were safe instead of going after D.E's.
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Posted on 12-29-05 01:46 AM Link | Quote
I didn't read any of the books--probably won't... Given that, I believed the movie to be alright. Yes, I do believe certain parts do not belong, the teenage band part, Hermoine's rant on Ron and Harry (that totally came out of nowhere), myrtle's "fun".. I do agree Dumbledore doesn't seem what I believe his role is in the books...maybe ian mackellan doesn't work in this part

either way, the movie is alright, enjoyable...but not worth the $9/$6 dollars for it. It is better off as a DVD rental IMO
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Hmm....

Well Hermionie's rant at Ron and Harry? Are you refering to the "Oh Boys!" one? Well in the book, the animosity between Harry and Ron goes on for ages. So when she says it in the BOOK it's more a sense of relief.

The Weird Sisters were always part of the story,, and for Brit fans it's a chance to see Jarvis Cocker in action (He's a frontman from a famous britpop band - Blur). But still, I'd visualised the Weird Sisters has being a bit more subdued - like a classical music band.

Oh and Michael Gambon portrays Dumbledore NOT IanMcKellen. If he's depressed about his part, he's probably read book 6.
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