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Kasumi-Astra Flurry                    Since: 11-18-05 From: Sheffield England Last post: 6306 days Last view: 6306 days |
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I guess this is mostly aimed at Taryn, but anyone with any knowledge is most welcome to impart their advice 
After moving up in the world with a shiny new iMac Core Duo with a huge 20" screen, I thought I'd try my hand at CGing scans of some old sketches, as I was hoping to make a start on a webcomic soon, and I need some site art- and I can't steal art from Sky Lounge Garden forever 
I got frustrated very quickly with the mouse sensitivity- it's turned all the way up, but when I move the mouse slowly, the cursor travels about half the distance on-screen as when I zip the mouse quickly. It's very frustrating as I need to be careful and precise when CGing, and as the cursor travels less distance on screen when the mouse is moved slowly, I have to move my hand much, much more. Then you get the distortions from having to move your hand  I'm sure there's a setting for this in most Linux distros, but there doesn't seem to be any in OS X. Has anyone got any ideas for configuring the mouse's behaviour to a greater degree than OS X allows?
Also, I got fed up with using my mouse, and I'm considering shelling out for a cheap Wacom graphics tablet. I'm honestly not going to use it that often, so between £60 and £100 should do. That'll buy me an A6 (3" x 4" ?) sized tablet of fairly good quality (definately Wacom, then  ). At first it's just to give me a better chance to improve my CGing, which is being held back by the mouse
Next, I adore Photoshop, but hate Paint Shop Pro. Confused by The GIMP, too I can't afford to get Photoshop legally, but I know that Painter also exists. How does it compare, and is it any good for someone coming from a Photoshop background? |
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HyperHacker Star Mario Finally being paid to code in VB! If only I still enjoyed that. <_< Wii #7182 6487 4198 1828 Since: 11-18-05 From: Canada, w00t! My computer's specs, if anyone gives a damn. STOP TRUNCATING THIS >8^( Last post: 6306 days Last view: 6306 days |
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| You can probably get an older or limited version of Photoshop fairly cheap. My school has Photoshop 5 Limited Edition on all the computers... it sucks but I imagine later ones are better. (8 RAWKS.) Point being it exists and is cheap enough for a school in Ontario to afford. (edited by Hyper LOL on 02-03-06 01:54 PM) |
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Tarale    2710 Affected by 'Princess Bitch-Face Syndrome' ++++!! Persona non grata Since: 11-17-05 From: Adelaide, Australia Last post: 6306 days Last view: 6306 days |
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| Personally, I don't like Photoshop at all for CG work. Or mice.
My best recommendation to you for CG work is to get a tablet. A Wacom Graphire is the cheapest in the Wacom range, so it shouldn't cost too much. It has 512 levels of pressure sensitivity, but no tilt sensitivity. If you are willing to save up more money, the Wacom Intuos has 1024 levels of sensitivity, and includes tilt sensitivity. The best program for Tablet support on a Mac is Painter. Photoshop does some weird stuff where if you draw a curved line VERY FAST it draws a series of short straight lines with corners in an attempt to "catch up". Painter may slow down a bit (depending on what brush/effect you are using) but it will not draw a jagged line... it will be as smooth as you drew it. Painter is NOT a competitor to Photoshop. If you want to do image editing, photography and such, you'll probably still want Photoshop. Painter is a whole different tool -- it is a painting and drawing tools/materials emulator. Want to color with watercolors? It will emulate that for you. I don't know how to change the mouse sensitivity in OS X, I haven't found options to do so. I'd check in System Preferences, but if it's not there I don't know where it would be. |
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Zem Permabanned. Flaming, trolling, reregistering. Since: 11-18-05 Last post: 6629 days Last view: 6629 days |
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Originally posted by Tarale Just checked: System Preferences, Keyboard and Mouse (it's in the Hardware row), Mouse tab at the top, Tracking Speed. |
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Tarale 2710 Affected by 'Princess Bitch-Face Syndrome' ++++!! Persona non grata Since: 11-17-05 From: Adelaide, Australia Last post: 6306 days Last view: 6306 days |
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Originally posted by ZemOriginally posted by Tarale Ah cool. I'm at work on my work Windows box, so I didn't get to check it either I guess at least my guess was looking to the general right spot |
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Kasumi-Astra Flurry Since: 11-18-05 From: Sheffield England Last post: 6306 days Last view: 6306 days |
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| I've since sorted the mouse problem. It turns out I'm not the only one to hate the mouse settings in OS X. I found a god-send of an application called Steer Mouse that lets you configure all sorts of things, including mouse speed AND acceleration. My mouse is now more Windows in character than it was before.
I only really use Photoshop for web design and CGing, and I could happily keep it for making web graphics. I did just want to get Painter for tablet stuff, but I only recently found out it was designed from the ground up for tablets. I really want to take my CGing up to the next level with tablets, but I couldn't face doing it in Photoshop :-\ I've also become very frustrated with Photoshop's speed under Rosetta - it's very slow. What I was wondering about Painter is how it compares to Photoshop tool-wise. I found it hard to use Paint Shop Pro and The Gimp because they work in quite different ways, interface wise. I just wanted to know how easy it would be to pick up given X experience in Photoshop. |
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Tarale 2710 Affected by 'Princess Bitch-Face Syndrome' ++++!! Persona non grata Since: 11-17-05 From: Adelaide, Australia Last post: 6306 days Last view: 6306 days |
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| Painter is VERY complex, and its tools are VERY different to that of Photoshop.
There are tools for dry brushes, wet brushes, sponges, big brushes, fanned brushes, pallette knives, watercolors, crayons, markers, oil paints, pastels, airbrushes, charcoal, chalk, colored pencils, etc, etc, etc. Each of these tools behave differently. All of these tools respond to both the tilt and pressure sensitivity (so ideally works best with an Intuos or higher tablet, but would be fine with a Graphire). There are settings for different types of paper, etc. The program is very complex and takes into account lots of different painting and drawing tools. The interface has similarities to Photoshop, but is pretty much it's own thing too. Thankfully the tools are so unique and intriguing you wind up playing with the application and learning. Just as an aside, if you do get a tablet, other programs for CG work (Windows based this time) that I like are openCanvas and Alias Sketchbook Pro. I'm not sure but Alias might have a Mac version, openCanvas is strictly Windows. Both are designed for tablets I find openCanvas to be very easy (despite some Engrish), and Alias Sketchbook Pro has a very simple interface. |
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Kasumi-Astra Flurry Since: 11-18-05 From: Sheffield England Last post: 6306 days Last view: 6306 days |
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| Unfortunately, even though I have two PCs, it would be stupid of me not to get something capable of using my 20" iMac. The screen is just soooo gooood for using Photoshop
Does painter have support for layers, and lock transparency and so on? These are tools I use pretty heavily in Photoshop |
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Tarale 2710 Affected by 'Princess Bitch-Face Syndrome' ++++!! Persona non grata Since: 11-17-05 From: Adelaide, Australia Last post: 6306 days Last view: 6306 days |
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| Yep, Painter has support for all of that.
So does Alias Sketchbook and openCanvas. |
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