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Posted on 02-02-06 12:45 AM Link | Quote
You know what I'm talking about. The games based off of TV shows, movies, and other stuff made today just aren't on par with those made many years ago. My opinion is slightly biased, but most people here I presume would agree. Sure, there is the odd good game that fits the above conditions that turns out fine, but...just compare the rest of them to some of the incredible games made many years ago, most notably during the 16-Bit era.

For example, Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles 4, Toy Story, Aladdin (the Genesis version specifically), Ren and Stimpy: Stimpy's Invention, Bart vs the Space Mutants, Virtual Bart, Goldeneye (yes, I know, it's more recent) and even more obscure games such as Lethal Weapon, Scooby Doo Mysteries and Chip 'n Dale: Rescue Rangers.

Granted, there are such games that were made during the early console ages that were not that good or sucked horribly (ET), but those that were more than made up for it. Games like that just don't seem to come around that often anymore. What do you think?
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Posted on 02-02-06 12:48 AM Link | Quote
Most Disney games that were handled by Capcom turned out pretty good. Konami had a knack with the TMNT license as well.

I think the problem these days with games based off movies/TV is time constraints. You don't have time to come up with a quality product that does the show/movie justice; the product *has* to be rushed out ASAP.
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Posted on 02-02-06 12:53 AM Link | Quote
Building on what Colin said, it's more difficult to make games at all with the current technology. It takes longer to make games, and thus while games often have roughly the same deadlines as they used to, they need to be much more rushed than they used to in order to meet these deadlines.
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Mobile Suit Gundam: shitic Front was a decent game. I liked it at least. That's the only decent recent TV related game I can think of.
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Posted on 02-02-06 12:56 AM Link | Quote
I can understand that. We also know what happens when perfection is demanded. Duke Nukem Forever. And yet, I'm sure you'll agree the deadlines should not be so tight. Granted, there is a "milk it while it's hot" factor involved, but you know what they say. Quality over quantity. Right?
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Posted on 02-02-06 12:57 AM Link | Quote
Originally posted by asdf
Quality over quantity.

It's pronounced "money over everything."
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Posted on 02-02-06 12:57 AM Link | Quote
Kyouji: I agree with you, but it still doesn't explain why TV/movie related games seem to have a higher failure rate than other genres. Some of these things seem absolutely embarassing... look at the ER PC game.
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Posted on 02-02-06 01:42 AM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Wurl
Mobile Suit Gundam: shitic Front was a decent game. I liked it at least. That's the only decent recent TV related game I can think of.
Best Zeon replacement ever? Best Zeon replacement ever.
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Posted on 02-02-06 05:45 PM Link | Quote
DUCKTALES FOR THE FUCKING WIN.

Its funny that even Japan has this problem when making games based on anime. Games like... Cowboy Bebop, Dragonball GT, Samurai Deeper Kyo, Gundam SEED: Never ending Tomorrow, and there's probably a few more too.
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Posted on 02-02-06 06:42 PM Link | Quote
Duck Tales + Darkwing Duck = pwns

When the game were released while the cartoons were playing on channel 11 (WB here in New York) the kids at the time just had to get these games. So like Colin said, Capcom had the Disney games on lockdown.


(edited by Googie on 02-02-06 05:44 PM)
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Posted on 02-02-06 07:03 PM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Alastor the Stylish
Originally posted by Wurl
Mobile Suit Gundam: shitic Front was a decent game. I liked it at least. That's the only decent recent TV related game I can think of.
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Better than Journey to Jaburo. And it was kinda' fun when I played it.
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Posted on 02-02-06 07:39 PM Link | Quote
Of course it was easier to make 16-bit games based off of movies. The technology was simpler. Aladdin kicked major ass on the SNES, and it was so simple to play. If the games were simpler, and not as complex.. they might be more interesting.

Most games based on movies try to follow the movie as accuratly as possible, and have long cinematic scenes from the movie with little gameplay. Think of the LOTR games. It seems like the games are created as a way to advertise the movie.. rather than the game existing for the enjoyment of the player. Like they're like a playable preveiw of the movie. Which is why they generally suck.
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Posted on 02-02-06 08:06 PM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Googie
Duck Tales + Darkwing Duck = pwns

When the game were released while the cartoons were playing on channel 11 (WB here in New York) the kids at the time just had to get these games. So like Colin said, Capcom had the Disney games on lockdown.


Heh, I watched a lot of Darkwing Duck when I was little. Thatīs why I bought the game so youīre right about that, Googie.

DW is pretty short, though. Iīve beaten Ducktales several times too but I donīt own the game.
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Duck tales was indeed the shit. Nearly every Disney related title on the NES was the shit. Even the Little Mermaid was enjoyable (that was my sisters but I still played it. )

However, the original poster mentions some games which I found to be quite subpar. e.g. any Ren and Stimpy game EVER. I can't think of a Simpsons game on NES or SNES that I have enjoyed... Bart Vs. Space Aliens, Bart Vs. the World, Bar'ts Nightmare, I found them all to be lacking severely. Simpsons Road Rage for GC was pretty enjoyable, but even that is a ripoff of Crazy Taxi. Let's not forget games based on Beavis and Butthead.

The thing is, to make a game based on a movie/television show, I think the actual movie/tv show has to have some elements of adventure, something to make it worth using as a video game subject. All those shows, Duck Tales, C&C Rescue Rangers, Darkwing Duck, etc, had elements of adventure and danger to them. A game based on Ren and Stimpy is likely going to be full of stupidity and stock sound effects and gags from the show. And who ever played a game to see comedy you've already seen executed 100 times better on the actual show? And correct me if I'm wrong but wasn't there a SNES game based on Beethoven (the family movie about a big dog). Recipe for a yawn.

So yeah I think it would be cool to have more games based off of shows, but it would have to be the right kind of shows. And even that's not enough b/c you have to think of fresh situations and gameplay elements to make it fun.
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Posted on 02-03-06 03:31 AM Link | Quote
Originally posted by MathOnNapkins
However, the original poster mentions some games which I found to be quite subpar. e.g. any Ren and Stimpy game EVER.

Yes. Those sucked. So disappointing. =(

Originally posted by MathOnNapkins
I can't think of a Simpsons game on NES or SNES that I have enjoyed... Bart Vs. Space Aliens, Bart Vs. the World, Bar'ts Nightmare, I found them all to be lacking severely.

I remember there was a pretty rockin Simpsons arcade game, but it was never ported to SNES. And I might be remembering wrong and it actually sucked.
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Posted on 02-03-06 05:17 AM Link | Quote
Originally posted by MathOnNapkins
I can't think of a Simpsons game on NES or SNES that I have enjoyed... Bart Vs. Space Aliens, Bart Vs. the World, Bar'ts Nightmare, I found them all to be lacking severely. Simpsons Road Rage for GC was pretty enjoyable, but even that is a ripoff of Crazy Taxi. Let's not forget games based on Beavis and Butthead.


Bart Vs. The World was the first NES game me and my brother got. It was fun in the beginning but I got bored of it pretty quickly.

I played it when we moved into our new house.
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Ducktales was rather good, but then it's quite intresting to know that the game was Engrish heaven just before it was released if you check a late beta that was leaked. And Transyvenia (which was called just Ghost house in the beta) had a diffrent music and things like crosses on chests was replaced by RIP.
Originally posted by MathOnNapkins
And correct me if I'm wrong but wasn't there a SNES game based on Beethoven (the family movie about a big dog).
The game quality could be compared to the old atari games, or most of the modern flash games... and most of thoose are boring. :/
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Posted on 02-03-06 07:51 AM Link | Quote
I remember there was a pretty rockin Simpsons arcade game, but it was never ported to SNES. And I might be remembering wrong and it actually sucked.

The arcade version on The Simpsons was the best Simpsons game (played it to death in the arcades back in 1991). It was similar to TMNT in the arcades and you coulda combine two of the characters for a funny move to kill the enemies (Bart & Lisa would hold hands to run around screaming knocking people out. xD

And if three other people woulda join in while one person was playing, the game woulda been even harder (more enemies woulda come out and I think more hits to kill them)
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Posted on 02-03-06 11:19 AM Link | Quote
Well yeah I was referring to console games, not arcade. That Simpsons arcade game was just total ownage. If I could own any Arcade game, it would probably be that. *checks ebay*

yay

Now give me $900.


(edited by MathOnNapkins on 02-03-06 10:39 AM)
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Most of them were about as mediocre as the ones released today.
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