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Which do you think costs more...?
Constantly running dishes through the dishwasher.
 
50.0%, 9 votes
Constantly buying paper plates.
 
50.0%, 9 votes
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Kutske









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Posted on 01-27-06 04:08 PM Link | Quote
Yeah, I know you're used to my philosophising by now, but this has bugged me for a long time already. Which do you think is less expensive; using paper plates as much as possible, or using dishware plates exclusively? See, paper plates are only good for one use, so you constantly have to buy new ones (which is what constantly requires funds), but on the other hand, dishware must be washed after each use (using water, detergent, electricity in the dish washer). So, over time, which would consume more money -- washing dishware or buying paper plates? What do you think? Or do you know for a fact? This is assuming that the same amount of food would be consumed regardeless of which type of plate you were using (although good luck eating spaghetti on a paper plate).
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Posted on 01-27-06 04:58 PM Link | Quote
I don't own a dishwasher so I wouldn't know, but I think that buying paper plates would end up being more expensive, because you would have to constantly buy new ones and with some paper plates, you can only use them once.

We got a set of paper plates in our Christmas hamper last year and we used all the plates up in one day, if we were to have used normal plates that can be washed then it wouldn't have been such a waste I guess.
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Posted on 01-27-06 06:00 PM Link | Quote
I know for a fact that paper plates are cheaper. Where you can buy 100 cheap ones for $10, running a gross total of 100 dishes through a dishwasher would cost a lot more.
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Posted on 01-27-06 07:48 PM Link | Quote
Depends...do I intend to only eat for a week then starve to death...Or like...for the rest of my life?
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Posted on 01-27-06 08:45 PM Link | Quote
I'd tend to think that proper dishes would wind up less expensive, but then I don't have a dishwasher so I'm not prone to the high amounts of electricity and water wastage that those things use up.
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Posted on 01-27-06 10:14 PM Link | Quote
Well if you're on your own, having one dish to wash would be pretty cheap...
But if it's a family, I can't imagine paper plates being more expensive.
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Running water. Over time, more expensive.
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Posted on 01-27-06 11:01 PM Link | Quote
I picked paper plates.

I really have no facts to back me up, so my choice was due to opinion and guesswork.

That is how I handle life.

By guessing and bullshitting.
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Posted on 01-27-06 11:26 PM Link | Quote
i think paper plates, because you are doing more damage in the long run in terms of running out of resources; with dishware, sure you use water (and electricity), but there are natural ways of regenerating those two things
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Posted on 01-28-06 09:13 AM Link | Quote

Cymoro: I know for a fact that paper plates are cheaper. Where you can buy 100 cheap ones for $10, running a gross total of 100 dishes through a dishwasher would cost a lot more.

Ahh, but say if you just used the plate to eat a sandwich, and then you wanted a piece of cake for desert; you'd need two paper plates (unless you want your cake sitting in sandwich crumbs) but you could simply run some water over the dishware plate in the sink for a few seconds, then wipe it off and use again.


Zamboni Name Changer: Depends...do I intend to only eat for a week then starve to death...Or like...for the rest of my life?

I'm talking like, over your lifetime, which is going to cost more?


Clockworkz: Running water. Over time, more expensive.
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neotransotaku: i think paper plates, because you are doing more damage in the long run in terms of running out of resources; with dishware, sure you use water (and electricity), but there are natural ways of regenerating those two things

Well, we're talking about what is more economical for the individual person making the purchases, but on the large scale I think paper plates actually do less damage to the economy; paper is a renewable resource, I imagine it's less destructive to the environment to make paper plates than to purify the water and generate the electricity (both of which consume oil in the process, and we know how precious that's becoming lately) necessary to run a dishwasher.
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Posted on 01-28-06 09:34 AM Link | Quote
Paper plates might be cheaper than dishware plates but you can only use them once.

You can use disware plates hundreds of times so that probably makes up for them being more expensive.

As for a dishwasher, everyone doesn´t have one so people without a diswasher would probably go with paper plates.

I choose paper plates in that poll.


(edited by Ran-chan on 01-28-06 08:35 AM)
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Posted on 01-28-06 10:28 AM Link | Quote
Dude, just buy a couple of bowls. They're easier to wash and more versatile.
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Posted on 01-28-06 01:26 PM Link | Quote
I'd say that dish washers might occupy about a quarter of all households.
The choice is definately "Dishware" for me.
I've heard of alot of negative feedback from dishwashers lately...mainly consisting of the dishwasher not cleaning the dishes properly.
But good old-fashioned cleaning-the-dishes-via-the-sink-and-detergent (IMO) far outweigh the benefits of constantly using paper plates.

Even if you have but a few dishes to wash -- All you have to do, is stick a little bit of dishwashing detergent on the sponge, and the rest is easy-as-piss!

If you're really into paper plates...then are you into plastic cups and cuttlery?

In my opinion (which is loosely based on my personal experience), dissposable eating utensils are just for the lazy.
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Posted on 01-28-06 02:13 PM Link | Quote
So basically, three meals a day minimum multiplied by 7. So, let's say 5 plates a day. So that's 35 plates a week, minimums, again. So, once a month you have to replace these plates (if you're using them only for yourself). So, that's 10 dollars a month, or 120 dollars a year. Now, spread that out over 5 years.

For 25 to 30 dollars you can get enough plateware and silverware for 4 people from a Goodwill. Now, when you take that initial investment you've already spent two months worth. Now, the total cost of running water into a sink two or three times a week is probably less than a dollar.
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Posted on 01-28-06 02:49 PM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Kutske
paper is a renewable resource, I imagine it's less destructive to the environment to make paper plates than to purify the water and generate the electricity (both of which consume oil in the process, and we know how precious that's becoming lately) necessary to run a dishwasher.


Paper/Cardboard + oil from food == unusable paper

Most electricity is actually generated from natural gas and coal, at least in the US. There are also nuclear alternatives to generate electricity (but I won't get into that). There is a shift towards water, solar, and wind generation of electricity as well.

Less destructive to environment to generate paper? you have to cut down trees, which displaces animals, etc. For water treatment, water in a sewer system is pretty much separated from the environment until there is a breach in the system, but that doesn't happen often. Plus, water treatment does not use a lot of chemicals either according to a microbiology textbook I read.
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Ummm...Paper plates are REALLY bad for the environment, mostly because of the dyes that they use and the packaging that they are put into. I never noticed that part of Kutske's post.

Water treatment from dishwashers, etc. when it's not industrial (like big restraunts which use harsh chemicals on plates) is pretty simple. It's more ecologically feasible to use the regular dishware. Plus, as I mentioned, cheaper.
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Originally posted by Zamboni Ice Cleaner
Ummm...Paper plates are REALLY bad for the environment, mostly because of the dyes that they use and the packaging that they are put into. I never noticed that part of Kutske's post.

Water treatment from dishwashers, etc. when it's not industrial (like big restraunts which use harsh chemicals on plates) is pretty simple. It's more ecologically feasible to use the regular dishware. Plus, as I mentioned, cheaper.


Damn. He stole my point about paper plates being terrible for the environment. ! Especially if the paper plates are made from styrofoam, which alot of them are.

So I say, dishware would be better. It's also cheaper to. It's like what, 5 bucks for dishwashing detergent? It usually lasts for about a month or so. And if you eat three meals a day, plus drinks and plastic forks and knives... that's going to add up to alot of money.
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Posted on 01-28-06 05:55 PM Link | Quote
Whatever you do, don't get styrofoam plates. You can't microwave them, and you can't cut things well on them. All in all crappy plates.
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Posted on 01-28-06 09:26 PM Link | Quote
Dishwashers are disgustingly inefficient, energy-wise.

And there's a certain tranquility to be found in washing the plates after dinner and putting them away before bed.
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Posted on 01-28-06 10:56 PM Link | Quote
Well since my water bill is part of my rent who gives a rats ass? I'll take the actual plates. Real men know how to take care of things when a woman is not around.
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