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Posted on 01-16-06 02:21 PM Link | Quote
Sorry for how alike this is to the perfect school thread but I need this as I have now become the IT representative for my school. Basically tell me what you would like a schools IT facilities. I need to present this infront of 80 teachers so please make this good.
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Posted on 01-16-06 02:24 PM Link | Quote
More film and audio editting equipment.

Fuck digital. I demand some good old analogue equipment to fuck shit up.
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Posted on 01-16-06 05:57 PM Link | Quote
Free wireless.

Oh, and whatever you do, don't get those fucking slimclient Compaqs.They're slow as fuck.
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Posted on 01-16-06 10:28 PM Link | Quote
what kind of school is your school? High School? Middle school? and what is your school's budget?

some high schools have pilot the idea of renting laptops to each and every student. Video editing and production equipment would be nice if there are plans to offer digital video elective.
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I agree with free Wireless. You could also get some better programs, depending on the software you currently use. If money is left over, try to get some warrenties on some of the video equipment. But most importantly, focus on the little things at first, then if you're still in, work your way out to the big things. After all, you are new at the job and don't want to look like a fool.


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Posted on 01-17-06 02:48 AM Link | Quote
I come from an education in schools background and I currently still work in the education sector.

The thing that I have found most IT coordinators don't focus on enough is keeping the state of the workstations up to scratch.

Too many focus on "innovating" (read: toys) and not enough on the perpetual cycle of upgrade and repair.

Audit your workstations. Remove any that are old clunkers and replace them. Try to upgrade a whole classroom and rotate your machines. Audit printers and data projectors too and submit them to the same treatment if you can.

Your students and teachers don't want to work with broken equipment, slow equipment or unreliable equipment.
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Posted on 01-17-06 04:15 AM Link | Quote
Originally posted by neotransotaku
what kind of school is your school? High School? Middle school? and what is your school's budget?

some high schools have pilot the idea of renting laptops to each and every student. Video editing and production equipment would be nice if there are plans to offer digital video elective.



We're a private school so have a £500,000 budget and the whole school is already wireless. Hence laptops and desktops can be connected to their network. As for programs we already have

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Posted on 01-17-06 07:09 AM Link | Quote
And your school needs to be better why?

Unless you don't do upgrade/repair as mentioned by Tarale, you guys are set.

If you need to use up some budget though, suggest buying Cray 9.
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Posted on 01-17-06 10:20 AM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Koneko
And your school needs to be better why?
Cray 9.


Thats what I thought. The school IT facility is very advanced for a high school.
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Posted on 01-17-06 01:15 PM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Cymoro
Oh, and whatever you do, don't get those fucking slimclient Compaqs.They're slow as fuck.

This is true of any Compaq. The one I'm using at school right now takes about 10 seconds to execute 'rem' (which does absolutely nothing) in a batch file.

If you have the money, go with the laptop idea. Install some nice software like lololol/Opera/not IE, maybe Textpad, Lunar Magic, various anti-spyware and anti-virus programs, and use server-side Internet filtering (if you even need filtering, I think schools have to by law) that doesn't suck (like not 8e6 crap that's slow and only works with IE). Make an image of the HD (should all be the same, so one HD image should work for all of them) and write down the BIOS settings, and restore both at the end of the term when the system is returned to you. That way you can have an "Install/tweak whatever you want as long as you don't alter anything physically" policy.
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Posted on 01-18-06 02:48 AM Link | Quote
I like the laptop idea but most people already have laptops in school because ofthe wireless system. However what HyperHacker said seems like a very good idea. It would mean that students without as much money as others e.g. scholars could get laptops to help them with their work.
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Posted on 01-18-06 03:39 PM Link | Quote
I have to agree about the school already being up-to-date. My school suffered from having a bloated IT department that drew budget away from other departments. There's no fucking wonder that they key subjects of maths, english and science are failing. They're never going to compete with subjects that appear as trendy and high-tech as Computing. My old IT teacher has a 30" monitor in his office, for christ's sake.

So many subjects could do with bright, interesting, clean new textbooks and a breath of fresh air.

The best thing you can give a school is plenty of reasonably fast computers, and make them uniform across the entire school. You don't need toys or gadgets to learn. Just make the computer experience easy to learn and approach. Make sure that there's enough facilities so that it can be a part of every student's study experience.
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Posted on 01-18-06 04:35 PM Link | Quote
The key here is in idiot-proofing the computer systems at a school. I agree with Tarale that computer maintanence should be more important than just buying pretty gadgets, and I agree with Kas that uniformity is key.

The problem is with the people who DO do things like install lololol and other programs that interfere with the uniformity of the computers. There should be no tweaking allowed at all, because you can only tweak so much before you start to break things down. Letting students independently install programs on standardized computers will only lead to the eventual state of someone doing the idiotic thing like installing fucking GATOR for crying out loud. And then, if your file system protection is anything like what my High School's was, the entire system is screwed.

Control, when it comes to something as delicate as technology, needs to be completely taken away from anyone who isn't responsible/informed/educated enough to use it correctly.
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Posted on 01-18-06 05:29 PM Link | Quote
Grey while I am all for making sure people don't mess up the actual system the school should allow lololol to be used on all pc's and not just personal laptops. Then they should only give internet access to their main router which could ave the legally required web filtering.
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Posted on 01-18-06 08:31 PM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Grey cat
The problem is with the people who DO do things like install lololol and other programs that interfere with the uniformity of the computers. There should be no tweaking allowed at all, because you can only tweak so much before you start to break things down. Letting students independently install programs on standardized computers will only lead to the eventual state of someone doing the idiotic thing like installing fucking GATOR for crying out loud. And then, if your file system protection is anything like what my High School's was, the entire system is screwed.


There are several undergraduate computer labs scattered around my school. What is nice about them is you can install anything you want. However, when you log out of using them, that causes the system to reset itself and restore itself back to a state before you logged on. This is a solution that could be explored to keep systems uniform.
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Yeah, a lot of schools use Deep Freeze to do that. It's pretty good; has options to install Windows updates while frozen (I think), make a non-frozen partition, and is pretty secure (runs as a driver, so you can't just kill the process, and prevents BIOS writes so you can't just wipe the boot password with some clever writes). Of course without a properly configured BIOS (boot from HD, password required to change) this is all fairly pointless as a boot disk can take it out in a few seconds. Also it can really slow down the system...
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Posted on 01-19-06 01:40 PM Link | Quote
Perhaps look into getting textbooks in online or computer formats?
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Posted on 01-19-06 01:52 PM Link | Quote
No... *Shudders" trust me no matter what format it is in, it is always better to have a book rather thatn a pc. The portability of a textbook is why I like textbooks so much. I mean its not like a laptop that can run out of batteries or anything like that.
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Posted on 01-19-06 02:03 PM Link | Quote
I guess I should say additional material. Like videos and interactive graphs and stuff. Not the whole book online.
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Do both. Online and real books.
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