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Posted on 01-13-06 06:32 PM Link | Quote
http://edition.cnn.com/2006/TECH/science/01/13/rabbit.human/
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Posted on 01-13-06 07:04 PM Link | Quote
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They want to make stem cells THAT way?

It doesn't even make sense. They have different numbers of chromosomes. They can't, uh, mix
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Posted on 01-13-06 07:06 PM Link | Quote
I love it how Apophis didn't even read the article before he made this thread.
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Posted on 01-13-06 07:48 PM Link | Quote
Dude... it was a joke .

If you just took a general summary of what it was, you would've had human + rabits. They wouldn't go beyond early developement is a detail.

You bastard .
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Posted on 01-13-06 08:06 PM Link | Quote
I did too read the article. It says they're not even sure whether they'd legally be considered rabbits or humans. I thought about that for a moment, and decided to make a joke about the human + rabbit thing.

(edited by Apofisu on 01-13-06 07:07 PM)
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Posted on 01-13-06 08:40 PM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Apofisu
I did too read the article. It says they're not even sure whether they'd legally be considered rabbits or humans. I thought about that for a moment, and decided to make a joke about the human + rabbit thing.
Okay... But even if this were true, you still did it by making a misleading thread title and offering no explanation of this, thus making it appear that what I said in my previous post was the correct assumption. Thus, your joke failed.
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Posted on 01-13-06 08:41 PM Link | Quote
I'm sorry. I thought the article pretty much spoke for itself.
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Posted on 01-14-06 02:45 AM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Alastor the Stylish
Okay... But even if this were true, you still did it by making a misleading thread title and offering no explanation of this, thus making it appear that what I said in my previous post was the correct assumption. Thus, your joke failed.


- The point of the joke was the miselading thread title.
- You have ruined it by being overanalytical
- Q: What if they aren't killed at an early stage? A: Massive jackhammer style rape orgies will ensue.
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Posted on 01-14-06 02:55 AM Link | Quote
Would't the end result determend wether the zycotes are humen or ribbit?
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Posted on 01-14-06 03:45 AM Link | Quote
Not necessarily: The thing about a zygote is that, well, technically it's really just six or seven cells. Six or seven cells, IMO, no matter what a NeoCon says about it, is not a classifiable living thing just yet. So we wouldn't really know.

Now, what would be really weird is if we tried to map the chromosomes inside the nuclei of the zygotes, and we ended up with a number of chromosomes equal to the mean average of a human chromosome count and a rabbit's... Wtf, eh?

And now that Dracoon brings it up, I myself WOULD be interested in seeing what develops if the embryos were allowed to grow beyond an early stage. I don't think it'd be a furry or anything like that, but it'd certainly be pretty interesting. I don't think it'd be inhumane, either. I dunno why, but something about the whole process really doesn't strike me as the kind of thing that could be accused as "playing god"...
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Posted on 01-14-06 06:32 AM Link | Quote
Well, look at the kitten thread in general if you want to know how thoose early expriments will look like. It won't look anything like "furries", and probably rather wierd.

It's done in the name of Genetic research... which is a new and exciting area... but there's alot of question marks too.

And if Human+whatever hybrids come up, there would come up questions about legal rights they have. Imagine the scandal if a labotory killed off some animals becuse their behavior was humanlike or something.
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Posted on 01-14-06 09:32 AM Link | Quote
"he scientists want to use the embryos to produce stem cells that carry genetic defects. Studying those stem cells could help understand a number of currenctly incurable diseases in humans."

"They would not be allowed to grow beyond an early stage in the laboratory, and would only be used to investigate stem cell development, genetic defects and disease, they say."

Well, itīs quite interesting but tiīs also quite wtf. But it could always be good to gain more experience about incurable diseases.

"Imagine the scandal if a labotory killed off some animals becuse their behavior was humanlike or something. "

Heh, you want a catgirl.
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Posted on 01-14-06 09:56 AM Link | Quote
It still doesn't make sense to me. The chromosome data should be corropt since 46 =/= (The # of rabbit chromosomes). I'd be suprised if it made any useable stem cells at all; rather then just making a corrupted zygote that died after conception.

If, by some insane chance, they DID make it out of the fetal stage, they would probably be just a bag of skin that lacked some of it's internal organs, causing it instant death as well.

Nothing about this makes any sense :\
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Posted on 01-14-06 10:16 AM Link | Quote
Although made of rabbit cell material, scientists say the embryos would be controlled by human DNA.

I don't know much about genetics, but it doesn't look like they are doing "gene splicing" or whatever. It looks more like they are trying to see what happens when you have human DNA but the shell, the cellules I guess they're called, are of Rabbit origin. And also the fact that the whole point of the experiment is to create defective cells, I don't think the definition of success some of you are using is accurate.
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Posted on 01-14-06 10:31 AM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Grey cat
Not necessarily: The thing about a zygote is that, well, technically it's really just six or seven cells. Six or seven cells, IMO, no matter what a NeoCon says about it, is not a classifiable living thing just yet. So we wouldn't really know.

Now, what would be really weird is if we tried to map the chromosomes inside the nuclei of the zygotes, and we ended up with a number of chromosomes equal to the mean average of a human chromosome count and a rabbit's... Wtf, eh?

And now that Dracoon brings it up, I myself WOULD be interested in seeing what develops if the embryos were allowed to grow beyond an early stage. I don't think it'd be a furry or anything like that, but it'd certainly be pretty interesting. I don't think it'd be inhumane, either. I dunno why, but something about the whole process really doesn't strike me as the kind of thing that could be accused as "playing god"...
You realize, according to this article, they haven't gotten permission to do it yet, right?
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Posted on 01-14-06 12:20 PM Link | Quote
And again you seemed to miss the point of something. He never said they were allowed to, he is talking hypothetical =/

Insipration occured to me though.
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Posted on 01-14-06 02:03 PM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Alastor the Stylish
Originally posted by Grey cat
Not necessarily: The thing about a zygote is that, well, technically it's really just six or seven cells. Six or seven cells, IMO, no matter what a NeoCon says about it, is not a classifiable living thing just yet. So we wouldn't really know.

Now, what would be really weird is if we tried to map the chromosomes inside the nuclei of the zygotes, and we ended up with a number of chromosomes equal to the mean average of a human chromosome count and a rabbit's... Wtf, eh?

And now that Dracoon brings it up, I myself WOULD be interested in seeing what develops if the embryos were allowed to grow beyond an early stage. I don't think it'd be a furry or anything like that, but it'd certainly be pretty interesting. I don't think it'd be inhumane, either. I dunno why, but something about the whole process really doesn't strike me as the kind of thing that could be accused as "playing god"...
You realize, according to this article, they haven't gotten permission to do it yet, right?

Well... Yes, actually. I guess living in a fantasy world of my own design and wondering what the results of an extended controlled trial of a scientific experiment that's currently of controversy in the community and therefore worth discussing is non-canon, but then again, I DO read JACK.

But the real question here is what about organisms that have the same number of chromosomes as humans? Number of chromosomes really means nothing, because even in animals of similar number of chromosomes, traits still are represented by different pairs. Just because the numbers match up doesn't mean the genetics themselves will.
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Posted on 01-17-06 01:47 PM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Ran-chan
Heh, you want a catgirl.

Who doesn't?
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Posted on 01-17-06 02:32 PM Link | Quote
Well, duh. I shouldīve realized that. _Ž

Everyone is obsessed with catgirls. Except Alastor.
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Posted on 01-17-06 02:57 PM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Ran-chan
Everyone is obsessed with catgirls.

Since when? I sure as hell know that I'm not.

I'd take a regular girl over a furry one anyday. Might look good on drawings, but it stops there. And I'm not obsessed just because I said the drawings might look good. It's not the furry part that attracts me.
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