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Rom Manic                  Since: 12-18-05 From: Detroit, WHAT?! Last post: 6295 days Last view: 6295 days |
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| This stuff is straight out of sci fi movies. Or at least, thats what everyone would first think when it comes down to stull like Antigravity.
But the thing is, Antigravity has existed since 1919. The barrier of gravity was beaten in 1919 by a man named Dr. Kowsky. He took a Quartz crystal, and charged it with a shortwave low voltage energy source. With both plates attached to the power device and a perfect cube of quartz crystal, the crystal began levitating and expanding, lifting his entire apparatus and a 55 pound weight. You've probably wondered why a Quartz is translucent and not Transparent. From what I can tell by research on the net, this translucent property is a superconducting chemical. When the quartz is charged and it begins to heat up, it expands in size and loses it's translucency, becoming completely transparent. In the experiment Dr. Kowsky did, the cube expanded to 20 times it's size and its weight almost became negative. Some of you may be familiar with the meissner effect. This is not to be confused with the experiment Dr. Kowsky did, but the effect of it can be similar. Basically, if you arrange solenoids in a special way, charge them, then place a special superconducting ceramic plate above them, the goal is to get the plate spinning at 5500 RPM's. When that happens, the plate will begin levitating because of a magnetic field repelling the solenoids from the ceramic plate. What's interesting about this is an experiment done recently, where a piece of glass was placed above the ceramic plate, it lost 0.4% of it's mass. This wouldn't normally seem significant, but it is in fact a very significant loss in weight. One more discovery I read briefly about is that some insect shells have this same antigravitic property as Quartz does. Since I couldn't find much about this, I have no more info on it, but there's always google 
Tonight I'm going to attempt this with the flawless piece of Quartz I have in my room. Wish me luck 
Links: http://www.keelynet.com/gravity/KFrost.htm http://www.sciforums.com/showthread.php?t=5010 More links to come, I have a few in my history at home... EDIT: I think this should be a few forums down...Sorry... (edited by Rom Manic on 01-13-06 11:16 AM) (edited by Rom Manic on 01-13-06 11:31 AM) |
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neotransotaku Sledge Brother Liberated from school...until MLK day    Since: 11-17-05 From: In Hearst Field Annex... Last post: 6297 days Last view: 6295 days |
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| so...are you going to videotape this or something? otherwise, how would we know you did it other than...you saying you did it... | |||
Peardian N-Z KvSG #193 is up!  Since: 11-17-05 From: Pearl Island Last post: 6296 days Last view: 6295 days |
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| I heard something like this when looking up the Hutchison Effect.
Good luck. |
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Cymoro Administrator    Since: 11-17-05 From: Cymoro Gaming Last post: 6295 days Last view: 6295 days |
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| Kicking it over to World Affairs.
On another note, not only do I not think it's going to work to the same effect that Dr. Kowsky did, but I'll require some visual proof, video preferable. If it works, then it would be most awesome indeed. |
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Rom Manic Since: 12-18-05 From: Detroit, WHAT?! Last post: 6295 days Last view: 6295 days |
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| Unfortunately, I had to work that day. Tuesday is my day off, and I think I still have an 8mm tape camcorder downstairs in fairly useable condition.
I'll be sure to send you all a copy of this experiment  But I have to agree with the critics here, I doubt it will work very well, if at all.
Still worth a shot, though |
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Snow Tomato Snap Dragon  Since: 12-31-05 From: NYC Last post: 6316 days Last view: 6301 days |
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| Just attempting to explore this phenomenon is admirable. Sometimes disproving a theory is more valuable than proving one.
Unless the experiment is flawed. I'm wishing you luck, and I'd like to see the experiment.. no matter which way it goes. |
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drizzt do'urden Red Paragoomba Since: 12-08-05 From: Oregon Last post: 6694 days Last view: 6694 days |
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| I think it's pretty cool on what your trying to accomplish here, and if you actually do pull it off it would be a day to remember. I say go for it, If you dont have something to record it with than that's ok. Your the one doing it, lol | |||
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Sajin Gorotto 0 Since: 01-15-06 From: Heaven Last post: 6527 days Last view: 6527 days |
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| Now if you have photo-evidence of your accomplishes, you will receive a nobel peace prize or...something...or another for charity... | |||
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Thexare Metal battleaxe Off to better places  Since: 11-18-05 Last post: 6295 days Last view: 6295 days |
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| Pictures can be edited.
Even video probably COULD be, but it's less likely to be suspicious, and probably harder to edit as well. |
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Ziff B2BB BACKTOBASICSBITCHES Since: 11-18-05 From: A room Last post: 6295 days Last view: 6295 days |
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| It's easy to fake - either way.
Especially if he's using 8 mm which is a simple cut job |
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drizzt do'urden Red Paragoomba Since: 12-08-05 From: Oregon Last post: 6694 days Last view: 6694 days |
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| What you should do is do it in front of a crowd so that people know it's real and not fake. It's easier to tell if it's real then. | |||
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Ziff B2BB BACKTOBASICSBITCHES Since: 11-18-05 From: A room Last post: 6295 days Last view: 6295 days |
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| Not if those people are his friends...and since any experiment can have negative and unforeseen reactions...why would he put these people at risk? Hardly we need the snake of Proba saying "I dare you, daring's author..." | |||
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drizzt do'urden Red Paragoomba Since: 12-08-05 From: Oregon Last post: 6694 days Last view: 6694 days |
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| Lol, that's true, then there is only one other option,
send it in to Myth Buster's  they can make it work hehe |
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Ziff B2BB BACKTOBASICSBITCHES Since: 11-18-05 From: A room Last post: 6295 days Last view: 6295 days |
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| Oh, yes.
A nice little stub I got off Jane's |
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emcee Red Super Koopa Since: 11-20-05 Last post: 6295 days Last view: 6295 days |
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| The Kowsky/Frost experiment was a hoax. The magazine that published the story of it owned up to that fact in the next issue. | |||
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Rom Manic Since: 12-18-05 From: Detroit, WHAT?! Last post: 6295 days Last view: 6295 days |
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| We will find out Tuesday. If it doesn't work, I have a generator that should output more than the right amount of power.
However, we do know that even if Quartz doesn't work, there are still 2 other methods that defy gravity: 1) The meissner effect thing. Placing a non-conducting material over a superconducting material revolving at high speeds above a power source. 2) Grebbinkoff's theory of some insect shells having a superconductive property which, when charged and heated will defy gravity. However, one thing that disproves your statement is that Grebbinkoff directly compared his insect shell results to that of Kowsky's Quartz experiment. (edited by Rom Manic on 01-15-06 11:22 PM) |
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Ziff B2BB BACKTOBASICSBITCHES Since: 11-18-05 From: A room Last post: 6295 days Last view: 6295 days |
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| TT Brown also works. But it is more based on ionic propulsion. | |||
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Rom Manic Since: 12-18-05 From: Detroit, WHAT?! Last post: 6295 days Last view: 6295 days |
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Cool  I didn't even know about TT Brown, but that looks really interesting. What I like about his experiment is that all of the weight is moved equally, and there is no lack of momentum. No g-forces when you turn or accelerate, etc...
Electrokinetics are widely used these days, though, to convert Electrical Energy to Mechanical Energy. Still, I think thats too complicated an apparatus for me to construct and try
Also, it seems that the recent experiment with the Meissner effect was done by a man named Eugene Podkletnov. His work was not only ridiculed, but he has reaped more pain than profit from his experiments. But it is important to note that he did not defy gravity, he simply blocked it with his experiment apparatus. Bombardier is currently experimenting with this new technology. Breaking off from Podkletnov's work, they plan on making a device that sends out a pulse of energy that will instantaneously emit 1,000 G's of gravitational force. This vaporize any object in front of the beam, which makes me wonder at the practicality of the device. Basically, a superconductor charges itself with energy, and when it reaches critical mass, the energy is released, creating the beam of gravitational force. If it works, I'll be impressed. But it just doesn't seem practical with 1,000 G's of force being exerted all at once. How will it stay afloat? Rockets? (edited by Rom Manic on 01-16-06 10:53 AM) |
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Koneko Plasma Whisp  Since: 11-17-05 From: Tartarus. We get faster internet than you. Last post: 6295 days Last view: 6295 days |
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| Okay. Superconductors charging energy, that's almost reasonable. But Critical Mass? I'm afraid you've lost me. Could I bother you to explain what critical mass has to do with a vaporization ray? Furthermore, how would 1000 Gs vaporize something? Gs in what direction? What would actually cause the ray to form, and how would it transmit these Gs to the target?
You know, I'm amazed by the general lack of skepticism here. And seeing as there's quite a bit of skepticism, by that I mean that there isn't enough. So I tossed in my forty cents. Go buy a soda. |
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Rom Manic Since: 12-18-05 From: Detroit, WHAT?! Last post: 6295 days Last view: 6295 days |
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| Well, superconductors direct energy at an accelerated rate, hence "Super" conductor. Critical Mass is a term I used to describe the point where the superconductor cannot hold any more energy. When this happens, Bombardier theorizes they can direct a beam of that energy at a force of 1000 G's.
If you're unaware of how powerful this is, allow me to explain. We exist on earth at 1 G. Just one. Astronauts have been trained to take 6 or more, and even that is a strain for them. Thats 6 times the normal amount of gravity. So imagine ONE THOUSAND times the normal amount of gravity being exerted into one direction. It would most certainly pulverise anything in it's path, and possibly vaporise it into dust So, you want to know how this force will be exerted...I don't know, really, but I could try to explain. If you take Podkletnov's experiment using the meissner effect, the superconductors (The Ceramic Plate and the Solenoids) created an electromagnetic field between them, causing both negatively charged poles to repel and make the disk float and revolve at 5500 RPM's. How this can be accomplished through Bombardier's device is a little too farfetched for me, but I would imagine they would use the same principles. |
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