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Andy

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Posted on 01-07-06 06:35 PM Link | Quote
Originally posted by DarkPhoenix
And, for reference, the penalty for copyright infringement is up to $30,000 for each work infringed, or up to $150,000 if the copyright owner proves willful infringement.


I have quite a few hacks! I hope I never get fined!

If I keep my ROMS on my comp and never release them or put them on a different computer would police have any way of knowing I have ROMS?
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Posted on 01-07-06 07:53 PM Link | Quote
Well. Do you mean if you copy em to a CD and take It to a persons house and they copy it? Yeah, I don't Know how the Police will Track you. But the govenrment guy mite be able to. so if i make a hack, Will i get in trouble? i gotta stop then if thats true.
you also know the sites with ROMS where you dwonload them, once you download the ROM, they store your comp IP thing in there list, the people that host ROMS can turn in the list before you can say, NOT ILLEGAL, seriouly, they can track down all the ROMS you have stored in your comp. if you even have ROMS stored to a list, they will track the disk. SO DON'T COPY TO A DISK. if copyed, Break the damn disk to splithereeins.

THIS IS TRUE


(edited by UZI in my pocket on 01-07-06 06:57 PM)
Dragonsbrethren

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Since: 12-01-05
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Posted on 01-07-06 08:02 PM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Andrew
Is the penalty imprisonment or a fine?


No one is going to come to your house and arrest you for playing SMB1 on your computer, if that's what you're asking.

The police and government have more important people to worry about like music pirates.
richyawyingtmv

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Since: 11-18-05
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Posted on 01-07-06 08:05 PM Link | Quote
Originally posted by UZI in my pocket
Well. Do you mean if you copy em to a CD and take It to a persons house and they copy it? Yeah, I don't Know how the Police will Track you. But the govenrment guy mite be able to. so if i make a hack, Will i get in trouble? i gotta stop then if thats true.
you also know the sites with ROMS where you dwonload them, once you download the ROM, they store your comp IP thing in there list, the people that host ROMS can turn in the list before you can say, NOT ILLEGAL, seriouly, they can track down all the ROMS you have stored in your comp. if you even have ROMS stored to a list, they will track the disk. SO DON'T COPY TO A DISK. if copyed, Break the damn disk to splithereeins.

THIS IS TRUE


What the fuck?

My uncle's a police officer. And he plays mario kart on the pc with me reguarly.

Seriously, the police dont fucking care.

EDIT - I also installed soulseek on his new laptop for him the day. Because I'm nice like that


(edited by richyawyingtmv on 01-07-06 07:06 PM)
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Posted on 01-07-06 08:06 PM Link | Quote
Originally posted by richyawyingtmv
Originally posted by UZI in my pocket
Well. Do you mean if you copy em to a CD and take It to a persons house and they copy it? Yeah, I don't Know how the Police will Track you. But the govenrment guy mite be able to. so if i make a hack, Will i get in trouble? i gotta stop then if thats true.
you also know the sites with ROMS where you dwonload them, once you download the ROM, they store your comp IP thing in there list, the people that host ROMS can turn in the list before you can say, NOT ILLEGAL, seriouly, they can track down all the ROMS you have stored in your comp. if you even have ROMS stored to a list, they will track the disk. SO DON'T COPY TO A DISK. if copyed, Break the damn disk to splithereeins.

THIS IS TRUE


What the fuck?

My uncle's a police officer. And he plays mario kart on the pc with me reguarly.

Seriously, the police dont fucking care.


HEY HEY HEY!!!!!!!!

I didn't say anything about the POLICE arresting you.
richyawyingtmv

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Posted on 01-07-06 08:07 PM Link | Quote
Originally posted by UZI in my pocket

HEY HEY HEY!!!!!!!!

I didn't say anything about the POLICE arresting you.


Why? Who else would? The liberal democrats? MI5? John Prescott?
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Posted on 01-07-06 08:08 PM Link | Quote
I dunno who will. sorry
Metal Knuckles

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Since: 12-21-05
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Posted on 01-08-06 12:07 AM Link | Quote

Lookout! John Prescott's about to go all Jackie Chan on your ass!

And Uzi, seriously. Please think (and spellcheck) before you post. You said the government might track you, then followed up with saying that the police wouldn't track you. Honestly, that's contradicting right there.

Also, how's your Mario hack going? +P
Disch

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Posted on 01-08-06 12:20 AM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Metal Knuckles
You said the government might track you, then followed up with saying that the police wouldn't track you. Honestly, that's contradicting right there.



There's more to the government than just the police. It's not necessarily contradictory.
DarkPhoenix

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Posted on 01-08-06 12:42 AM Link | Quote
This is copyright law - no one will really go after you except for the companies that own the copyrights, and, as I've said time and time again, unlike with the deplorable Music industry, they seem to have better things to do than go on an internet piracy witch-hunt.

Bottom line, if you're not openly distributing your ROMs (e.g., selling them, posting them for download on a website, or sharing them all on a File-sharing network of some sort), no one's likely to hunt you down.

And by the way, if a higher government agency was really after you, breaking a CD into pieces wouldn't do it. It's still possible to recover data from a broken CD, albeit not all of it, but probably enough to prove the existence of a file on it. The best way to dispose of a CD is somewhere between 5 and 10 seconds in the microwave. It will, however, leave a bit of a smell behind, at the very least, and you could conceivably damage the microwave a bit, so, as they say, adult supervision required
Metal Knuckles

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Posted on 01-08-06 01:46 AM Link | Quote
Hey! Does anyone remember when Official Playstation Magazine joked that a good way of taking care of scratches on game discs was sticking them in the microwave, and all those people actually did it? XD

Has there ever actually been a case of someone getting caught by the police with having ROMS on their PC?
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Posted on 01-08-06 03:26 AM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Metal Knuckles

Lookout! John Prescott's about to go all Jackie Chan on your ass!

And Uzi, seriously. Please think (and spellcheck) before you post. You said the government might track you, then followed up with saying that the police wouldn't track you. Honestly, that's contradicting right there.

Also, how's your Mario hack going? +P

Kinda Good. Wanna See some screens? Im barley on this level working on.
W 1-3. Levels 1 to 3 Right now are the HARDEST.

Do you mean my SMB3 one or SMB1? SMB1 im working HARD on.

Screen to MY VERY FIRST SMB1 Hack. Im so Proud of my self.

A part of W 1-1. I changed the [?] Boxes to [!]. And the Fireballs. CHANGED.

This part is Further more in W1-1. There is like 5 Hammer guys. You can't see the other cause they aren't in the PIC.

This is the Beginning of W 1-3. LOOKS HARD DONT IT?The fire looks like Chicken Wings. LOL.

This is close to the Ending of W 1-3.




(edited by UZI in my pocket on 01-08-06 02:27 AM)
(edited by UZI in my pocket on 01-08-06 02:43 AM)
Andy

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Posted on 01-08-06 04:12 PM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Dragonsbrethren
Originally posted by Andrew
Is the penalty imprisonment or a fine?


No one is going to come to your house and arrest you for playing SMB1 on your computer, if that's what you're asking.

The police and government have more important people to worry about like music pirates.


But were talking about hacked ROMS. Wouldn't that make a difference?
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Posted on 01-08-06 09:27 PM Link | Quote
According to the back of an old Nintendo product, it is not only illegal to create/own/use a duplicate of the game, but also to modify the game or any such duplicates. So it follows that it's slightly worse to have a hacked ROM than a 'fresh' one.

But no, hacking a rom does not increase the likelihood of anyone capable of punishing you caring in any way.

So no one is going to come to your house and arrest you for playing someone's (or your) hack of SMB1 on your computer, if that's what you're asking.
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Posted on 01-08-06 09:32 PM Link | Quote
ohh. I mean my SMB1 hack im working hard on. I don't like to Edit SMB3 that much. most of my levels Crash. You should check out the "My first SMB1 hack"
Theres a lot of Progress I have done.
Andy

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Posted on 01-10-06 05:34 PM Link | Quote
Originally posted by UZI in my pocket
Well. Do you mean if you copy em to a CD?


If I delete stuff off a disk can people tell what used to be on it?

Originally posted by UZI in my pocket
you also know the sites with ROMS where you dwonload them, once you download the ROM, they store your comp IP thing in there list, the people that host ROMS can turn in the list before you can say, NOT ILLEGAL


Even if they have your IP how do they locate you?


Originally posted by UZI in my pocket
ohh. I mean my SMB1 hack im working hard on. I don't like to Edit SMB3 that much. most of my levels Crash. You should check out the "My first SMB1 hack"
Theres a lot of Progress I have done.


Who said anything about your hack that time?
Disch

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Posted on 01-10-06 06:03 PM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Andy
If I delete stuff off a disk can people tell what used to be on it?



You mean your HD? Yes.

If the FBI or whoever really wanted to, there are ways to recover deleted files off of hard drives. Of course there are also programs which attempt to foil such efforts by scrambling the formerly used areas of your HD.

But of course for them to do this they'd have to cease your computer... which they'd either need your (or the computer's owner's) consent, or they'd need probable cause (ie, they'd need some other evidence to suggest you have something on your HD which is worth them seizing).

So while it is technically possible for something like this to happen... it's not anywhere in the realm of reality.


Even if they have your IP how do they locate you?


Erm... that's kind of the point of your IP. The internet needs to know where your computer is so it can reach you. Your IP is essentially a road map to your modem.

I'm not sure exactly HOW they'd make the connection. I'd imagine it'd be something as simple as calling your ISP and ask for a billing/service address. I doubt your ISP would try to cover for you ;P


I gotta say though.... this all seems pretty ridiculous. It sounds as if you're genuinely worried/concerned that people are going to come after you -- and that's just such a laughable thought.
Andy

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Posted on 01-10-06 07:23 PM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Disch
Originally posted by Andy
I gotta say though.... this all seems pretty ridiculous. It sounds as if you're genuinely worried/concerned that people are going to come after you -- and that's just such a laughable thought.


I just get a bit concerned somtimes. I enjoy life to much to ever have anything happen. But I think I have all the info I need now to understand everything I wanted to know. I feel like such a loser.
Jomb

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Posted on 01-11-06 07:20 PM Link | Quote
Look at this way, here is a conversation that has never happened in real life.

inmate #32542354: "So, what you in for?"
inmate #74203443: "Killed a cop"
inmate #98043821: "Raped a 6 year old"
inmate #09340218: "Ran a meth lab"
inmate #09873219: "umm.. I was playing Mega Crap on my computer"
other inmates: "You sick piece of shit! We're gonna shank you!"
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