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| Acmlm's Board - I3 Archive - ROM Hacking - If you hack roms.... (questions) |
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Metal Knuckles Tendoru                   Since: 12-21-05 From: New Hampshire Last post: 6287 days Last view: 6287 days |
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| Well, SonicStrike has links to ROMs on it's site. Mostly defunct ROMs, but a fw more recent ones, such as the Sonic Advance series. Anywho, they put up the Beta version of Sonic Advance 3 on their site for download, and low and behold, SEGA gives them a call. But you know what they said?
Please take that ROM down, kthxbye. That's it. I already heard that SEGA doesn't make nearly as much a big deal about ROMs as Nintendo, but that was a good showing of it. They didn't even threaten to press charges against the owner of SonicStrike as I recall, showing their lack of caring. So it must not be a big deal to the game companies right now. Also, I couldn't help but wonder:
What? |
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HyperHacker Star Mario Finally being paid to code in VB! If only I still enjoyed that. <_< Wii #7182 6487 4198 1828   Since: 11-18-05 From: Canada, w00t! My computer's specs, if anyone gives a damn. STOP TRUNCATING THIS >8^( Last post: 6288 days Last view: 6288 days |
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| Know what Nintendo's done to several different sites I've seen with practically every ROM of every Nintendo game ever made?
Sent a letter saying "shut down the site or we'll sue your ass". Unless you're dumb enough to persist after being told by the corporate lawyers to stop, I don't think you're going to see cops busting down your door because you downloaded some ROMs. 
Also, when people get all scared because a rent-a-cop at the local mall sees them pull out a flashcart... pfft. Most cops don't even know what the term ROM means other than 'read-only memory'. (edited by HyperHacker on 12-26-05 10:51 PM) |
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Andy Zora Since: 11-17-05 Last post: 6617 days Last view: 6617 days |
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Originally posted by HyperHacker Sorry but I don't know what that means. Can somone explain what a rent-a-cop is? |
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Deleted User Banned    Since: 05-08-06 Last post: None Last view: 6288 days |
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| A rent-a-cop is a security person at the mall. They have those little cars... (edited by Shyguy on 12-26-05 11:10 PM) |
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Andy Zora Since: 11-17-05 Last post: 6617 days Last view: 6617 days |
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| And what I accidentily forgot to add to my last post: Whats a flash cart? | |||
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Metal Knuckles Tendoru Since: 12-21-05 From: New Hampshire Last post: 6287 days Last view: 6287 days |
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| Wow... you really are new at this, aren't you?
A flash cart is a cartridge designed for a specific system that can hold several ROMs for that system at a time. So if you had a GBA flash cart, you could have, let's say, Kingdom Hearts: CoM, Mario and Luigi: SS, and Mario Kart all on it at the same time. When you put the cartridge into the player, you can select which game you want to play. |
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Andy Zora Since: 11-17-05 Last post: 6617 days Last view: 6617 days |
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| Thats cool. I've never heard of those before. If I had one, the last thing I would do with it would be take it to the mall.
And yes. I've learned how to hack roms but I don't know much else about it. At least I'm learning.... I suspose. (edited by Andrew on 12-26-05 11:22 PM) |
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Deleted User Banned Since: 05-08-06 Last post: None Last view: 6288 days |
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Originally posted by AndrewWell, if you keep it in your GBA, then no one would know.  |
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Metal Knuckles Tendoru Since: 12-21-05 From: New Hampshire Last post: 6287 days Last view: 6287 days |
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| What? You mean you actually OWN a GBA?
*chuckles* |
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Deleted User Banned Since: 05-08-06 Last post: None Last view: 6288 days |
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Originally posted by Metal Knuckles Or your Nintendo DS....  |
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HyperHacker Star Mario Finally being paid to code in VB! If only I still enjoyed that. <_< Wii #7182 6487 4198 1828 Since: 11-18-05 From: Canada, w00t! My computer's specs, if anyone gives a damn. STOP TRUNCATING THIS >8^( Last post: 6288 days Last view: 6288 days |
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| Technically a flash cart is just a compatible game cartridge with a flash ROM you can put ROMs on, but yes, most include some manner of multi-game loader system.
And playing GBA/DS games on a PC sucks. It kinda ruins the handheld aspect. |
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Deleted User Banned Since: 05-08-06 Last post: None Last view: 6288 days |
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Bull-baloney! It's like a free Gameboy Player!  |
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Light PKMN Tektite  Since: 11-19-05 From: Cat Land Last post: 6645 days Last view: 6645 days |
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| Also, just thought I'd toss in that IPS patches are just as illegial. Don't know why, guess I should look into that.
..................................................................................................................................... >ips Patches are not illegial. Lets Look at it this way. Post Rom == Ban Post ips file == 1. Prase for a great game 2. Being destroyed for a crappy game. Ips patches are only the changes between 2 objects. Also having a rom is legal, if you dump it yourself. =) Edit: Spelling..... Edit Alt+2559 time (edited by Light PKMN on 12-27-05 10:46 AM) (edited by Light PKMN on 12-27-05 10:49 AM) |
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beneficii Broom Hatter Since: 11-18-05 Last post: 6291 days Last view: 6287 days |
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I'm sorry, but I could not follow this post.
Originally posted by Light PKMN |
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Dan Purple Leever Since: 11-18-05 Last post: 6296 days Last view: 6287 days |
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| He starts by saying that IPS files are illegal, then says they aren't. He makes no sense, being honest. | |||
Sukasa Birdo Not quite as active as before. Xkeeper supporter Xk > ||bass I IP Banned myself! Twice!  Since: 11-17-05 From: Somewhere over there Last post: 6288 days Last view: 6287 days |
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| Well, abobut Nintendo and ROM hacks... My friend's uncle actually worked at nintendo once, and he got an early copy of COTMK 1. Nothing happened.
So, despte all they do and say, when it coes to hacks they aren't a zealous as they make themselves out to be. |
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insectduel Lantern Ghost Not welcome here anymore.  Since: 11-18-05 From: Bronx, New York Last post: 6531 days Last view: 6325 days |
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| If my cousins caught me with ROM hacking and never knew I gonna quit as a ROM hacker. or I gonna get totally screwed by them. If is my mother, she gonna beat the shit out of me. | |||
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Andy Zora Since: 11-17-05 Last post: 6617 days Last view: 6617 days |
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Originally posted by insectduel My parents know I'm editing levels but they don't know it's concidered hacking. |
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DarkPhoenix Red Goomba Since: 12-27-05 Last post: 6292 days Last view: 6292 days |
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| Okay, first off, for clarity, in reference to people getting scared off by the word "hacking" (particularly in reference to "but they don't know it's considered hacking"), a definition of hacking (as a noun):
1. Modifying the source code of a program such as an operating system. 2. Black-Hat hacking (See cracking) is the unauthorized access to computer systems. This is only, however, one type of hacking which most hackers do not like to de affiliated with. - Wiktionary ( http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/hacking ) Perhaps someone can fill me in a little more as to the general legality of modifying sourcecode, but when we speak of ROM hacking, we're not referring to Black-Hat hacking, which is what gives the term "hacking" its stigma. Second, I'm not an attorney or anything, but I'd imagine that it could be argued that a ROM hacker distributing IPS patches, so long as the individual isn't making a profit from their work, or redistributing the original work, should share the same rights as a writer of fan-fiction. Furthermore, I can't imagine it'd be any less legal than all those "Star Wars Doom" and "Barney Doom" type shareware games that used to get sold at KGP/Marketpro computer shows, back in the day when games came on a large stack of 3 1/2" floppies. Those patches involved modifying the Doom sourcecode in the same way that we modify ROMs, and they often used various trademarks and copyrighted characters. Not to mention there were some thick books out there on how to hack Doom. "Tricks of the Doom Programming Gurus", anyone? ( http://cres1.lancs.ac.uk/~esasb1/doom/dpg/ ) Seems to me that the legality/ethics of ROM hacking, in and of itself, shouldn't even be an issue. Likely the only legal matter is the posession of the ROM, which is generally (rather weakly) argued to be legal due to the allowance of a backup copy of any software that you own. Whether or not that's a sound enough argument to hold up in court has yet to be established, as far as I know, but at the very least, that 24 hours thing for software you don't own is likely bunk ( http://www.theesa.com/ip/anti_piracy_faq.php ). But at the very least, the ESA seems to have better things to do than sue 12 year olds and senior citizens, as the RIAA has taken to. Things like opposing internet regulation and game labelling systems with the purpose of restricting sales. And if you're still concerned about the "hacking" part, some brief notes on US Multimedia Copyright I stumbled on a while back: ( http://www.aea11.k12.ia.us/downloads/copyrightposter.pdf ) Note that under software, it states that a program may be adapted by adding content or adapting to another language. Granted, it doesn't say whether or not it's legal to distribute the changes made to create this adaptation. And note that this poster hardly a legal document. Hopefully that's enough information to put the issue to rest. |
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Sukasa Birdo Not quite as active as before. Xkeeper supporter Xk > ||bass I IP Banned myself! Twice! Since: 11-17-05 From: Somewhere over there Last post: 6288 days Last view: 6287 days |
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| Huh. Well, at least I know that I can asfely tell my parents that this is legal, and that that is how I understand these laws. Woo. |
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