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| Acmlm's Board - I3 Archive - ROM Hacking - If you hack roms.... (questions) |
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Andy Zora                 Since: 11-17-05 Last post: 6607 days Last view: 6607 days |
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| I've been wondering for some time now:
What are the chances of getting caught rom hacking (I'm talking about poliece) Whats the punishment if you get caught? Is rom hacking a really bad thing to do in the eyes of the law? If you know the answers I would like to know. Thank you. |
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Celice Gordo    Since: 11-17-05 From: Oroville, CA Last post: 6282 days Last view: 6278 days |
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I think you'd get in more trouble if they saw you selling them, rather than playing, hacking, or anything else. I've had teachers mess around ROMs, as well as I know a guy in collage who had a security dude watch him, and nothing's ever happened. If anything, it'd count more of a hobby than a federal offense IMO. |
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Stifu  Since: 11-18-05 From: Your mom's bed Last post: 6279 days Last view: 6277 days |
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| I doubt they even try to tell the difference between people who hack ROMs, play ROMs or just have some but don't touch them, as long as they are ROMs they're not legally allowed to own. | |||
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Andy Zora Since: 11-17-05 Last post: 6607 days Last view: 6607 days |
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| Thank you
But I thought of another question: Would poliece have any way of finding out if you're hacking roms or not? (edited by Andrew on 12-26-05 04:14 PM) |
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JossiRossi Goomba Since: 11-18-05 Last post: 6396 days Last view: 6396 days |
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| I'm fairly certain that the police have more important things to do than track down people who hack 10-20 year old videogames as a hobby, even if we use ROM's which (to the best of my understanding) are inherantly illegal unless you actually own the game.
Don't worry about it really. |
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Stifu Since: 11-18-05 From: Your mom's bed Last post: 6279 days Last view: 6277 days |
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Originally posted by Andrew I think the only people who may get sued when it comes to ROMs are those who widely distribute them, freely or not. Depends on the ROMs too... To host Master System ROMS is probably much less dangerous than hosting GBA or DS ROMs, for example. So you can stop having nightmares about getting tracked, already...  (edited by Stifu on 12-26-05 04:34 PM) |
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Andy Zora Since: 11-17-05 Last post: 6607 days Last view: 6607 days |
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Why on earth would you say that? All I did was ask some questions. |
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The Onyx Dragoon 150  Since: 11-17-05 From: Somewhere between Mars and Jupiter, Sitting on an Asteroid Last post: 6282 days Last view: 6279 days |
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Originally posted by JossiRossi After all, it takes more than 24 hours to make a decent hack, right?
Some people get scared when the word "hack" is used, since it sorta gives off a meaning of forcefulness (which is actually "cracking"). So, Andrew, to make a rom hack is not illegal, but just to be safe, I'd keep it quiet. |
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Stifu Since: 11-18-05 From: Your mom's bed Last post: 6279 days Last view: 6277 days |
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Originally posted by Andrew That was a joke, I thought the smiley would make it obvious. The fact you took it to heart is somewhat disturbing though. And to clear things up, the 24 hours thing is bullshit. |
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Andy Zora Since: 11-17-05 Last post: 6607 days Last view: 6607 days |
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| There was a smiley?
And I thought you were serious. |
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Metal Knuckles Tendoru  Since: 12-21-05 From: New Hampshire Last post: 6278 days Last view: 6278 days |
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| Actually, as I recall reading in a Nintendo Power way back when it was the cool thing to do (oh, I think the one where they covered LoZ: Oracle of Seasons), someone sent in a letter asking whether it was legial to own ROMs at all. I don't know if they were BSing or just telling the real story, but they responded that whether you owned the game itself or not, it would be illegial for any amount of time you owned it.
Apparently, in some places like Australia, this rule doesn't apply at all for now-defunct systems (NES, GENS, ect). In fact, it is entirely legal in those places to own a ROM of a dead system for any amount of time whether you owned the hard copy itself or not. Yet not once have I heard of ROM downloaders being tracked down like those who pirate music, and honestly, it's a completely different method (click on link, OHNOS PORN, download ROM). So tracking downloads would be a lot harder. Also, just thought I'd toss in that IPS patches are just as illegial. Don't know why, guess I should look into that. But you know what that makes us? Interweb pirates, YAR! |
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Kyoufu Kawa Intends to keep Rom Hacking in one piece until the end  Since: 11-18-05 From: Catgirl Central Station Last post: 6277 days Last view: 6277 days |
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| Oh happy days, another legality discussion in progress. I'm really starting to love you guys. | |||
Jomb Deddorokku  Since: 12-03-05 From: purgatory Last post: 6280 days Last view: 6280 days |
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| Here is how much they care about old ROMs.... many years ago i had the honor of having my computer confiscated by the authorities. On this computer were thousands of ROMs. I even had a couple Playstation ISOs. They never mentioned anything about the ROMs to me and gave them all back a few years ago. Obviously old ROMs are not big on their agenda of things to do. | |||
Xenesis Blipper  Since: 11-19-05 From: Australia Last post: 6279 days Last view: 6278 days |
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How so? They're just a small file that says 'Change X byte at Y location'. There is nothing inherentely illegal to them. Congratulations, by your logic, Hex Editors are now illegal.... |
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Imajin Bot Local Moderator Currently affected by 'No syndrome' ---!!!  Since: 12-05-05 From: Camineet, Palm Last post: 6278 days Last view: 6278 days |
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| The IPS file's content determines it's illegality. Ripped Graphics, for example, are technically illegal- but then again, no one goes after say, Sprite Sheets either. Also, oftentimes ASM hacks and some editors require moving of data within the ROM- this moved data will most likely show up in the IPS and make the IPS illegal based on that snippet of data. | |||
asdf Link's Awakening ಠ_ಠ  Since: 11-18-05 Last post: 6279 days Last view: 6277 days |
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| 0.00001%. It is illegal, but the feds have better things to be doing. The only reason why you'd be caught is if you pass out ISOs to people on the internet with the intent of making profit, complete with a huge sign saying that you are doing so and demand that you be arrested. | |||
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Deleted User Banned    Since: 05-08-06 Last post: None Last view: 6278 days |
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Originally posted by Andrew I know this is an old post, but..... KNOW WHEN SOMEONE'S NOT SERIOUS! That is all...  |
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mudvaynewayne Newcomer Since: 12-26-05 From: the middle of nowhere aka the darkside of the moon Last post: 6696 days Last view: 6696 days |
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| well unless u get ur cpu confiscate and even then according to jomb even then they dont care or unless they really wont to catch you but i havent heard anything about ppl getting caught and put in prison for downloading roms and i guess its nowhere near as popular (prolly more like infamous for those of u who actually know the word) as pirating music and movies because businesses lose alot more money where as with roms they usually only lose little because most only download older stuff that ppl have prolly nvr heard of | |||
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Andy Zora Since: 11-17-05 Last post: 6607 days Last view: 6607 days |
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| Why would a computer get confiscated anyway? | |||
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Jomb Deddorokku Since: 12-03-05 From: purgatory Last post: 6280 days Last view: 6280 days |
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trust me man, you dont want to know 
There are lots of reasons it could happen, messy divorces with wild accusations used to gain custody of children, being used in a criminal case, being used as evidence of criminal insanity, being turned in by other people who have something against you (and lived in the same house as you), etc. Bottom line though, mine was confiscated with gigs worth of ROMs on it, and nobody cared. Has anyone actually been charged for emulation related crimes? I'm not 100% sure what the case would be like, but i would assume that if you arent involved in actual piracy (selling ROMs for profit, etc.), then it is at most a civil case where you'd get sued by the copyright holder for money. If you are selling the shit then you're facing up to 5 or maybe 7 years, in a low security prison, which aint shit, at least compared to super-max. |
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