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Posted on 02-17-07 03:34 AM Link | Quote
Art is communication and expression outside the purview of everday utterances.
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Posted on 02-17-07 03:45 AM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Tommathy
Art is communication and expression outside the purview of everday utterances.

Art cannot be something usual?
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Posted on 02-17-07 05:00 AM Link | Quote
It can be usual, but can't be looked at in the usual way.

Usual things regarded in the usual way are mundane, it's the investment of effort by the artist and the beholder that make something special.
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Posted on 02-17-07 05:07 AM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Tommathy
It can be usual, but can't be looked at in the usual way.

Usual things regarded in the usual way are mundane, it's the investment of effort by the artist and the beholder that make something special.



"Fountain" by DuChamp, for instance
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Posted on 02-17-07 05:50 AM Link | Quote
What are you looking for, exactly, Samurai? A neat succinct definition of the sum total of human creative output? Ain't gonna happen. The thing with definitions is that by their very nature they set boundaries and criteria, and if there's one thing art is good for it's pushing and questioning boundaries and criteria.

You're not gonna get anything deeper or more profound than "art is basically anything people want it to be". Actually, is that the point you're seeking to demonstrate?

(edited by Arwon on 02-16-07 11:52 PM)
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Posted on 02-17-07 06:41 AM Link | Quote
"What is art?" is as much a matter of individual taste as "What is good art". Depending on who you ask you'll get different answers, and none of them will necessarily be right or wrong.
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Posted on 02-17-07 09:24 AM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Ziff
Originally posted by Tommathy
It can be usual, but can't be looked at in the usual way.

Usual things regarded in the usual way are mundane, it's the investment of effort by the artist and the beholder that make something special.



"Fountain" by DuChamp, for instance

Indeed, since if art cannot be even vaguely described or defined, anything and everything can be considered art. It becomes like the words "good" and "bad" to consider something; surely, is it wrong to question what is something? Arwon seems to think so. (Personally, I'd reached a end somewhat like Tommathy's for a definition before I even posted this thread.)
I don't expect the perfect, universal definition of art, but at the same time, I expect a bit more than "in the eye of the beholder."
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Posted on 02-17-07 10:32 AM Link | Quote
Is this what you're looking for?
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Posted on 02-17-07 08:34 PM Link | Quote
Originally posted by SamuraiX
But that doesn't really answer the question, really. If you point to everything, and call it art, what does that tell about art?

it says 95% of art is boring and not fun to look at, listen to, or experience, and thats the truth. If you had read the post it did really answer question, art is creating something, anything.
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