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spiroth10

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Since: 01-28-06
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Posted on 02-14-07 10:09 PM Link | Quote
Let me tell you, in my few years here on earth, I've tried a lot of linux distros, and this has to be the most user friendly distro out of all of them.

from my humble beginnings of learning linux with muLinux (an archaic floppy disk version... it was nowhere near up to date, but taught me a lot) to me becoming a true user with RedHat 7, and finally my (near) Mastery of the OS with Slackware 9, 10, and 10.1 more recently, this is my all time favorite distro now. from the distros I mentioned, to all the obscure ones I've tried in between, none compare.

What I love the most is that with just one boot up from the CD everything just works. It doesn't take a linux guru (which I do consider myself) and a full 7 day week to set everything up.

As long as you have DSL/Cable, updating the system is no problem. In about 40 minutes, the system was up to date on my 768k Down cable connection. For most of you, it will be a lot less, with about 1.5 to 5 Mb/s down for speed.

anyway, The sound card works, my graphics card works (although I had to get the latest nvidia drivers through apt-get... no problem)

The thing that is different, that I must mention, is the fact that root works differently out of the box with Ubuntu. For some of you, it is your first distro, and if you ever migrate out, you might find trouble. The way other linux (and BSD, UNIX, probably AIX... and hell, almost all UNIX variants) systems work is to have root as a specific account with it's own password.

Ubuntu here requires sudo and uses the user password. For most cases this isn't a problem, but if it is, a sudo passwd in terminal can fix that right up.

Personally, I love gnome. I think it has a nice, clean, fast and efficient interface, and I personally like it better than KDE. Having a distro that welcomes gnome into it, and even integrates it gives me a feeling of "home". Slackware once had dropline gnome, but now thats pretty much history. Give gnome a chance, I find all the "eye candy" that KDE has just stupid (And my GeForce 7900 GT OC can handle WAYYY more than KDE)

What I find most surprising of all is that, aside from my basic hardware, Ubuntu configured my Nvidia Forceware network controller so I had internet connectivity out of the box. usually I have to plug the modem in via USB to set things up so easily.

overall, I highly reccomend this to linux novices, or migrating PC/MAC users. It doesn't take a tecchie like me to do anything. Even installing to the hard drive is simple!

This is the push Linux needed for the Desktop market. I can see this distro gaining great accliam in the next few years, and possibly inspiring even better distros in the future. This is a nice desktop based linux operating system that is easy to install, and use, for me, configuration was not even necessary at all!
HyperHacker

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Since: 11-18-05
From: Canada, w00t!
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Posted on 02-15-07 02:58 AM Link | Quote
My experiences with Ubuntu weren't as good. It doesn't like old/cheap hardware.

Desktop: black screen.
Laptop: No wifi. Every time I touch the touchpad or breathe too hard, it registers a mouse click - this is a hardware "feature" that can only be turned off by running a Windoze program in the background. (This isn't exactly an old/cheap laptop though, so what the heck)
Old computer (~700mhz CPU of some sort, something like 256MB RAM, cheapo PCI video card): Runs, but command line magic is required to get a serial mouse working. Very slow, particularly in drawing the GUI (the cheap video card at work). Severe keyboard issues; typing one character yields anywhere from zero to 200, making logging in almost impossible.

Yeah, Ubuntu isn't for old/cheap computers or Gateway MX7515 laptops, at least not without some tweaks.
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Posted on 02-15-07 04:41 PM Link | Quote
Yea, i tried Ubuntu for a bit. First as a LiveCD, then installing it to my HD....i had to remove it because i was running out of space... but yes. This was my first ever experance with Linux. I have it uninstalled right now, but i use the LiveCD to troubleshoot any problems so i can have at least internet connection to post my problem on forums. I was INSANELY cautious when installing this thing to my HD, because i have never partitioned my Hard Drive before.... but Ubuntu's User Friendly forums and installation really helped. I took a HUGE sigh when i was able to boot into Windows....and Uninstalling it was a cinch.
I just had to run the boot loader fixer,and then use GParted to remove the Linux partition.

So, Linux was pretty fine for me for a while.
spiroth10

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Since: 01-28-06
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Posted on 02-15-07 11:28 PM Link | Quote
yeah, I have some horror stories about repartitioning. Once I installed DOS to play old games -- it decided to format my whole hard disk. I got cocky and figured "Oh, it'll just use free space"

I was wrong. Had to get all sorts of windows specific hardware working using only CD-Rs, Another computer, and Slackware Linux. I did, however, learn how to run AOL in linux as well as setup 3 types of winmodems (no problems now that I have cable internet)

anyway, I just installed beryl (for teh 5th time now...), and let me warn new users -- don't install this yet if you aren't willing to put some extra hours in should it screw up your installation. It did mine a few times...

If you have any problems, login to a failsafe terminal session, type in [code]sudo nautilus[/code] now enable "view hidden files" and go to /home/[name]. Delete the .beryl derectory here, and restart gnome/kde/xfce. It will create a new configuration directory without errors.

also, if you get errors, or cannot get things working after changing beryl's settings, I caution you to remember what you changed, follow the steps above and MAKE SURE NOT TO ENABLE THOSE OPTIONS AGAIN!!!

The water effects screw up my box for some reason (dunno why, my graphics card is pretty good...)

aside from that, beryl gives you a system that kicks vistas sorry @55. Still has less errors too (but the ones it does have seem to be quite nasty...)
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Since: 11-17-05
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Posted on 02-15-07 11:58 PM Link | Quote
My ATI Radeon Xpress 200 doesn't have 3D support with the open-source ATI Drivers, and ATI's driver sucks and doesn't support AIGLX, forcing me to use XGL if I want to run Beryl... which isn't desirable by me.

My laptop was a different story, but it was a little slow considering my laptop is a little older and Beryl runs a little slow... therefore... I uninstalled it..

And as for getting Beryl installed, search the Ubuntu forums or Beryl-Projects wiki for installing Beryl with your specific graphics card.

Plus, I think ubuntu is the shit.

And I think linux is gonna start being big since they're offering free driver development to device manufacturer's if provided with product specs...

That means, more support for more devices, which calls for linux=win.
spiroth10

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Posted on 02-16-07 01:00 AM Link | Quote
yeah, my thoughts exactly black lord.

although I think you misunderstood -- I was giving advice to others who couldn't run beryl. I have it set up just fine, but the water effects seriously screw things up on my system. My Graphics Card is an Nvidia Geforce 7900 GT OC, though, and Nvidia's drivers tend to be better on linux than windows, at least from my experiences.

I think Ubuntu is going to bridge the gap between Masochistic linux geeks like me, and casual desktop users like U1traMan here.

With all the easy to follow guides on setting things up (mainly http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy and the forums...), and active support for gnome and beryl/compiz on desktop, It is quite easily the best distro for windows/mac users to transfer to.

The best thing is, almost all major hardware is automatically supported. With distros like Gentoo and Slackware, I can tell you from experience that it may take you a week to get your sound card to work, and maybe two just to get xorg up and running.

If what you say is true about driver support -- I'm sure it will benefit the opensource community as a whole (open source drivers = ports to other systems including BSD/others).

The more hardware supported, the easier the setup process becomes, and the flashier the desktop looks, the more users will flock to Linux.

A major problem, however, is still commercial software. There will have to be a substantial shift of users (which is happening, but very slowly... a bit faster after ubuntu perhaps...) in order for companies to produce games/software for it. You can't even buy mac software at Wal-Mart anymore, why should they carry Linux?

And without that software support, there will be a lot of users unable/unwilling to switch. If we could get everybody in the world to use linux one day, I gurantee software companies would immediatly drop windows support. I bet even microsoft would make linux software then (or more likely, the microsoft linux joke could become reality...)

but all in all, the ubuntu movement is really pushing Linux forward in a way it hasn't been before. For the first time ever, there is a linux distro being backed by a multimillionaire just like M$ and Apple.

I am a firm supporter of ubuntu, and when I get a job, I might even donate to help the good fight.
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Posted on 02-16-07 02:37 AM Link | Quote
I started off my linux ventures with SUSE and Fedora, I ran SUSE for a long time and then my cousin showed me Ubuntu... at first I wasn't the biggest fan, but after a while a grew very fond of the package management, and I could never go back to SUSE or Fedora, or any other distro of choice.
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