Originally posted by Tarale

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You don't have to do anything if you don't want to.

If you don't want to live, then don't. Doing so will hurt other people, but then that only matters to you if you value those people. If you don't, then does it matter at all?

Do you actually want some kind of help, or are you just philosophically babbling?

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Originally posted by SamuraiX

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Originally posted by Tarale

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You don't have to do anything if you don't want to.

If you don't want to live, then don't. Doing so will hurt other people, but then that only matters to you if you value those people. If you don't, then does it matter at all?

Do you actually want some kind of help, or are you just philosophically babbling?

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It won't bother anyone. In such a case, should I quit "babbling" and get to the point, as some might say?

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Originally posted by Tarale

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Originally posted by SamuraiX

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Originally posted by Tarale

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You don't have to do anything if you don't want to.

If you don't want to live, then don't. Doing so will hurt other people, but then that only matters to you if you value those people. If you don't, then does it matter at all?

Do you actually want some kind of help, or are you just philosophically babbling?

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It won't bother anyone. In such a case, should I quit "babbling" and get to the point, as some might say?

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There's a point? Really??

The Officer's Club is traditionally a place where people seek help for things. I would like to know if you are actually trying to seek help, or if you are trying to start a philosophical debate. Because if its the latter, I'm out, never had the stomach to go and read a bunch of Nietzsche or anything like that.

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Originally posted by SamuraiX

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I'm quite sure that whatever that post was supposed to be, I'd be better off not reading it.

I got my Microeconomics book today in the mail, and it seems fun, and not mangled. And my physics teacher gave me a set of books, and they are shiny and yellow and green. Jubilations! O=

After further reflection, I shouldn't really care about fitting in, now should I? It would be rather boring, I suppose.

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Originally posted by Tarale

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Originally posted by SamuraiX

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I'm quite sure that whatever that post was supposed to be, I'd be better off not reading it.

I got my Microeconomics book today in the mail, and it seems fun, and not mangled. And my physics teacher gave me a set of books, and they are shiny and yellow and green. Jubilations! O=

After further reflection, I shouldn't really care about fitting in, now should I? It would be rather boring, I suppose.

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It's nice to have some sense of belonging, but I guess it depends what you mean by "fitting in". I "fit in" with a bunch of weird geeky types, but other than that, everyone else thinks I'm weird.

I'm happy with most people thinking I'm weird though Or crazy.

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Originally posted by MathOnNapkins

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If it's "just you" then yeah, that sucks. Anybody who feels socially inept (like me most of the time) is going to feel isolated and like there's nobody like them. I've had what I think is a less than average amount of friends in my days, and they come and go for various reasons. Divergence in interests, or attitudes, or moving away, etc. It sucks, but I just focus on the things that I like to do if I have no one to hang out with. I dunno, do you just not TALK to people or something? I was really shy and introverted as a young kid, probably until 5th grade. Still don't like talking to strangers much at all.

You just have to make the best of it, I guess.

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Originally posted by Tarale

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I've had periods where I've had trouble with people in a general sense. I am capable of not talking to anyone for a long period of time, because I'm simply not able to adequately relate to anyone, nor am I willing to try.

However, I also associate these periods with fairly significant Depression. Both caused by the isolation and causing further isolation.

It may just be a period in your life that will pass.

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Originally posted by SamuraiX

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What, wait? Isolation translates to depression?

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Originally posted by Tarale

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Originally posted by Tarale

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Well, I know from personal experience that Depression is not a good thing. And by Depression, I'm not referring to a simple feeling of being a bit down -- I'm referring to a mental illness.

Everyone feels a bit down from time to time, but if it lasts a really long time, and you feel pretty much nothing *but* feeling down, then you might have Depression.

Depression can make you feel like you're unable to feel emotion (or emotion besides sadness), and make you lose pleasure in activities you would otherwise enjoy. It can also cause changes in your eating and sleeping. It often makes it hard to concentrate, and makes people feel fatigued.

Untreated Depression can lead to feelings of "going mad", cause people to cry frequently, and simply wish to "lay down and die" or become suicidal.

Having Depression can increase your risk of illness due to not taking care of yourself, and problems like Heart Disease. It's also thought that Depression alters the physiology of the brain, causing problems with - amongst other things - memory and concentration on a long term basis.

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Originally posted by SamuraiX

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It's "lie down and die," unless you're saying I'm an object. O=
I really don't think I'm focused enough to have Clinical Depression. I doubt that my fatigue, and sleeping is because of depression of all things. If constant sadness is a disease, why not Chronic Happiness, or Chronic Apathy? Is deviation from the normal in itself, a disease?

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Originally posted by Tarale

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Originally posted by SamuraiX

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It's "lie down and die," unless you're saying I'm an object. O=
I really don't think I'm focused enough to have Clinical Depression. I doubt that my fatigue, and sleeping is because of depression of all things. If constant sadness is a disease, why not Chronic Happiness, or Chronic Apathy? Is deviation from the normal in itself, a disease?

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There are other types of mental illnesses. "Chronic Happiness" could be construed as "Mania" for example. Apathy is usually associated with Depression however. And yes, the inability to experience certain emotions is considered a mental illness. It is not normal to be sad all the time, no. "Normal" would probably indicate a healthy balance of highs and lows.

I suffer from Atypical Depression (actually the most common type of Depression despite its name). I am moderately ok at the moment, but when I am feeling bad I can overeat (particularly chocolate and bread or pasta), I can sleep upward of 15 hours a day, and I pretty much avoid everyone at these times.

And no, it's not necessarily a very "focused" thing. I would describe it more like being under a heavy fog that just doesn't go away. It's quite a vague feeling really I found... and some days were better than others.

Course, if you are Depressed, I'm not saying you need to go get yourself on medication or anything for it. But I'm still guessing given that this thread exists at all that you're not entirely thrilled with the way things are, so you might want to do something.

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