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| Higsby Posts: 59/93 |
Set up on the moon? It doesn't seem to bad but what would people do there that they can't do in the space station? Unless they have plans on what it would be useful for I would have to say no. |
| luigi Posts: 35/79 |
well a moon base seems kinda weird but still it would give you the feeling on how other planets would probably be like....and you would be closer to certain planets and get more detail on them! |
| Uki-Ki-rby Posts: 141/173 |
1) there are no spaces in "terraforming"
2) It will probably make it more hospitable than it is now 3) Do you know what the relation between temperatures and time in the Sun and in the shade is on the moon compared to Mars?. |
| Koryo Posts: 109/122 |
That's right. Terra form Mars, but don't visit the moon. Do you have any idea the relative distances between the Earth, Moon, and Mars? And do you even know what terra forming would really entail? |
| Uki-Ki-rby Posts: 135/173 |
I say no because the moon may not contain as much ground resources as Mars could provide. If we use the right terraforming technologies we could grow plants on Mars if we invent an artificial atmosphere... Or at least a minor sun blocker.. Mars would require some modifications such as water transplanting from Earth unless we could find a planet/planetoid within distance that contains ice which we could harvest and filter out for water. But overall on topic.. Moon = no. Although gravity could have many altering affects on life we could have but many versions of artificial gravity are already being studied. see here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Artificial_gravity |
| Koryo Posts: 99/122 |
How much more can we realistically expand on Earth? Our natural resources and land use are already strained. Remember, every day that we spend cooped up on Earth is another day living under the threat of extinction by nuclear war. It is accepted by many historians that the early US avoided many of Europe's social problems because we had an open frontier. In Europe, if you didn't like where you were, you were stuck there. In the US, you could leave your troubles behind and move farther and farther west. Today, Earth is getting to be like those crowded European cities. I believe tensions between humans will only continue to rise on Earth until we can expand somewhere else (and there is only one place left to expand to: space). It seems to me like a common false assumption that too many people have: "we should make earth perfect before we consider expanding beyond earth." I don't think that's ever going to happen. One last thing. Think back to the space race between the USA and UUSR. Competition got the American scientists kicked into full inventing gear. Since then, what advances have we made to space exploration? Few that were as ground breaking. I don't think the technology to colonize space is likely to be invented, much less perfected, until we actually start doing it. I think the best case scenario (for getting humans onto other planets as soon as possible) would be a new space race between, say, the US and China. I think people who think we shouldn't go to the moon fail to see the big picture. What will human civilization be like in 100 yeras? 500 years? Do you really expect us to sit around contemplating our naval for the next 5 centuries? Humanity needs to do something, and colonizing space is the only thing left to do. |
| Alkis Posts: 52/54 |
Oxygen and water can be recycled, electricity could be generated with photovoltaic cells.
The moon has plenty of natural resources that could be exploited for the good of humanity. |
| Shadic Posts: 510/528 |
In order to really inhabit the Moon, the colony that we would build would need to be self-dependent. We would otherwise waste far too much money (fuel) going back and forth to give our Moon-People food and water otherwise. |
| Kattwah Posts: 3307/3349 |
*Reopened*
It wasnt THAT big of a bump, and this is still a good subject to discuss. Anyways, my two cents? As said before, Its really a question of are we ready to set up on the moon? Can we really supply enough resources to sustain some form of life up there? Do we actually have the technology available to build a liveable, sustainable "bubble" on another planet. Also: can we get anything out of living there, besides data? Hopefully, sending people to the moon wont be a worthless cause =/ |
| beneficii Posts: 307/310 |
Pleae don't bump.  |
| jordan_mega_gamer Posts: 35/41 |
I like your reasoning, Alkis, but we'd still need to get all the resources on the moon first before we could launch anything.  I suppose it might save fuel in the long run, but the main benefit is all the extra room they'll have up there to plan and launch stuff. Still, I see it as a necessary step. The nearest planet to us, Mars, still would take about 5 months to fly to, or so I heard. Getting to the moon only takes a day or two at the most.
Edit: Sorry you thought that was a bump. I used to be active a while back and we generally went by a rule-of-thumb that anything still on the first page was fair game. Still, it doesn't look as active here as it used to be, so if the rule has changed let me know. |
| Alkis Posts: 4/54 |
Building a base on the moon would facilitate many things. Launching a spaceship from the Moon is easier than launching a spaceship from Earth, because of the reduced gravity. |
| Ziff Posts: 1482/1800 |
Plus, it would allow nerds like me to finally be filled with Star Trek hope. |
| Koryo Posts: 16/122 |
I don't see why there's any debate about it. I guess you could call it manifest destiny. Humans have a right to expand beyond Earth. As long as we have only one planet, we run a serious risk of losing it all at once. One nuclear war, one meteorite, one global plague, or one massive environmental mishap, and we lose it all. I also firmly believe that humans will never stop fighting each other unless there is something else. As long as Earth is all we know, then Earth will continue to be divided into many countries that compete and sometimes even war with each other. I believe the Earth will only be able to unify if there are other human populated planets. We as a race (and as Americans) have been slacking off for quite a few years. The competition of the Cold War space race lit a fire under us and got the first men into space and the first man on the moon. Since then, what progress have we made? Certainly not as much as we could have. Humans can colonize space 100 yeas from now, or 500 years from now. What we do today has a direct impact on that number.
IMHO |
| HyperHacker Posts: 4496/5072 |
Living underwater is what we really need to be working on, and living on the moon is a HUGE step toward that. |
| Alastor Posts: 7783/8204 |
YES! EXACTLY! MANIFEST DESTINY 2! |
| Sukasa Posts: 1932/2068 |
The moon is like a stepping stone; once we get there, anywhere will be proven possible with time, resources, and initiative. Plus, the techonologies developed may be adapted for an underwater habitat, paving the way for better use of terrestrial space! |
| Metal Man88 Posts: 537/701 |
To the mooon we gooo! I want to live there! |
| Rom Manic Posts: 462/557 |
Good idea, I must say. It's inevitable we'll eventually be flying to other planets, possibly intergalactic travel, but we'll have to wait and see. |
| Tarale Posts: 2454/2713 |
Isn't the Moon Kingdom already there??
What? Don't tell me that Sailor Moon isn't real.... 
... dammit, I had something more serious to say, but it's 40 degrees celcius here today and I think my brain is fried. I think it's something that we should be considering, but there's no doubt that its an expensive exercise. Still, it seems that that's where things will head at some point anyway. |
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