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HyperHacker Posts: 4446/5072 |
Originally posted by Kailieann Exactly. | ||||||||||
Kailieann Posts: 658/808 |
To be fair, how many blind people do you know?
Several of them use the internet, Alice. | ||||||||||
HyperHacker Posts: 4442/5072 |
The real question is what blind person uses the Interweb? I don't know any. Do you know any? | ||||||||||
D 2007 Posts: 307/497 |
Originally posted by Metal Man88 Just to show how immature I really am, I actually laughed out loud when I read that. | ||||||||||
Metal Man88 Posts: 545/701 |
I came up with a new rhyme for this: "Standards are for standorks!"
Also, don't modern text-readers interpret tables correctly? It's pretty easy to make it interpret the TDs and stuff and go "Table Column List: Bla bla bla" and such. And then go down by column, or something. ...But how are blind people supposed to understand tables anyway? | ||||||||||
HyperHacker Posts: 4408/5072 |
Well yes, if you're having it read the source code. | ||||||||||
Cirvania Posts: 1078/1181 |
Originally posted by KailieannOriginally posted by FreeDOS + "Less than" "Table" "Greater Than" "Less than" "Tee Arr" "Greater Than" "Less than" "Tee Dee" "Greater Than" "This is what a table sounds like" "Less than" "Slash Tee Dee" "Greater Than" "Less than" "Slash Tee Arr" "Greater Than" " Less than" "Slash Table" "Greater Than" Repeat ad nauseam. | ||||||||||
D 2007 Posts: 293/497 |
there's a difference between using tables "the standards way" (i.e., not using them) and u sing them the "I don't feel like debugging these DIVs for five hours trying to find out what dumb quirk in (browser) makes it render this way" way. | ||||||||||
FreeDOS + Posts: 1123/1312 |
Originally posted by KailieannOriginally posted by FreeDOS + That's called accessibility, not standards. | ||||||||||
D 2007 Posts: 292/497 |
Originally posted by HyperHackerOriginally posted by Metal Man88 I believe you need two DIVs for that, one with outset border and a bit of padding (for outer) and inset border (for inside) but then again divs in divs are unpredictable | ||||||||||
HyperHacker Posts: 4394/5072 |
Originally posted by Metal Man88 I've been saying this the whole time, but only now people have started agreeing with me. CSS is a load plain and simple. Good idea, terrible execution. BTW:
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Kailieann Posts: 650/808 |
Originally posted by FreeDOS + Since | ||||||||||
Metal Man88 Posts: 539/701 |
Some dumb people are saying tables are clumsy and should be replaced with CSS.
That'd be great, but the CSS doesn't work so that's a load of BS. May tables live forever! | ||||||||||
FreeDOS + Posts: 1122/1312 |
Originally posted by Xkeeper Since when were tables non-standard? I didn't get the memo. | ||||||||||
Ninetales Posts: 775/894 |
Originally posted by Xkeeper This is a perfect example of this. IE: < Opera: < FF: Works beautifully. Why won't it just work already?! Kailieann |
Posts: 632/808 Originally posted by Xkeeper quoted and emphasized for emphasis. Xkeeper |
Posts: 4977/5653 *225825> +FreeDOS-plus> width: 100%;
| *225829> +FreeDOS-plus> any thoughts? *225841> +FreeDOS-plus> my conclusion, IE and Opera are wrong *225850> @laptuna> since when did width:100% *225856> @laptuna> and margin: 0 170px 0 0; *225903> @laptuna> equate to so big it's off the fucking screen *225922> @laptuna> last I checked, 100% - 170 != 105% *230015> +FreeDOS-plus> who knows, KHTML did it too, and they generally have the best adherance to standards *230042> @laptuna> so it confirms what I already knew *230048> @laptuna> namely, standards are bullshit, long live tables sigh Xkeeper |
Posts: 4975/5653 gee, I've only pasted it into IRC 20 times | FreeDOS + |
Posts: 1109/1312 I dare you to post the code of it. A picture is useless without any proof | Xkeeper |
Posts: 4974/5653
| This is Opera and IE7 (well, kind of. IE7 has a larger space between them, but for the most part, it's pretty perfect.) This is Firefox. Of course, this is with MAGICAL STANDARDS and VALID HTML/CSS. But, you know, standards don't really mean anything. *Xkeeper goes back to using tables |