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Cruel Justice
Posts: 1584/1637
I noticed a flood of nude pictures pouring into the search. No wonder.
I would just browse around for 3d abstracts and I'd find a bunch of random nude pictures. "OH CRAP!" *click x* I don't want some faculty member getting any ideas.
Schweiz oder etwas
Posts: 1859/2046
Originally posted by Plus Sign Abomination
Yes, curse that fucking Michangelo. That sick fucking fuck.

So I was gonna insert a chain burn here where I'd pop in and mention something about craftsmanship and attention to detail, but it... well, it just wouldn't work.

I could stand on both sides of the argument here -- art is good, even crappy art, because it can still inspire others to create something (albeit something better). On the other hand, there are some serious problems with the implications of artistic nude photography, namely those surrounding the exploitation of children and young adults for profit. Until we get a handle on how many people are willing to view the photos as art and how many are willing to view the photos as masturbation material, there's always going to be a debilitating limp to the progress of artistic nudity.

Right now, in its current surroundings, it's just too taboo. And what's more, it may even be buried under more taboos as our society further divides itself. Hypothetically, when our society becomes a two-faced transmetropolitan mirror of ultraconservatism and hardcore pornography, a happy medium between the two -- artistic nudity that seeks to give a greater understanding as opposed to a cheap thrill -- may be shunned by both sides for each's own reason.
Ziff
Posts: 1399/1800
Yes, curse that fucking Michangelo. That sick fucking fuck.
Lakithunder
Posts: 1101/1284
My opinion= it is pretty much porn. If it can be viewed as porn, it is.

I really hate porn. No matter how "artsy" it looks, it still can be considered porn, or a tease. It is a matter of the eye of the beholder.
Kailieann
Posts: 626/808
I've done nude photography before, on both sides of the camera -- unfortunately, by that I mean both sides at the same time, exclusively, so..

It's hard to be too terribly artistic when you're both the photographer and the model, so you kinda just have to do what you can, and be happy with the results until you find someone else to work with.

Now, as for the primary discussion, emcee is absolutely correct -- the difference between art and pornography is intent (aside: *baps Neko*).

A pornographer's primary intention is to provoke sexual arousal in their audience.
Artists seek to provoke an (or perhaps more than one) emotional response, which may or may not include arousal (and if it does, it is more likely by consequence than by design).

As Kasumi quite appropriately said in her first post, this is a very big difference from mainstream pornography, especially for women, most of whom could never live up to the (completely fake) standards set by female porn stars.
And, while artistic photography celebrates the beauty of the human form in all its imperfection, mainstream pornography simply boils down to objectification of the subject.

And this is why, artistic or not, amateur pornography will always win out over mainstream. The subjects in amateur pornography are participating because they enjoy it, and not because they want to make money.

This discussion also reminds me strongly of FemJoy. A happy medium, if you will.
For those of you not familiar, FemJoy is a website that describes the content they produce as "Intellectual Pornography".
Their mission statement, if you will, is essentially to create pornography that glorifies women rather than objectifying them, and to arouse their audience without degrading the models.

And while they don't stray as far as I'd like from the young, thin, extremely well-proportioned archetype, I think they accomplish this goal quite well. I've given more than a little consideration to shelling out the $40 for access to the full, high-quality archives.

You may want to consider googling up a sample gallery or two. It's quite lovely work.
Tommathy
Posts: 316/339
I think everyone should have a naked picture of themselves sometime before their thirties and after their local age of majority.

Something to look back upon to realize how truly beautiful you were in your prime, or hell, how really good you look now.
Ziff
Posts: 1394/1800
Frankly, I think that exploitive photography can be done quite well. And although it lacks "beauty" it can show a depth of creative genius. But that's just me. And I'm quite anti-anything-past-the-1850s.

As for me? No, I wouldn't ever pose naked.
Kasumi-Astra
Posts: 176/258
Originally posted by Stalle
deviantART's artistic nude section has ALWAYS been a focal point of criticism due to how much plain old PORN gets uploaded and rarely taken down.


Browsing by popularity removes some of the worst offenders - which is what I linked to and how I browse the content. Even though there are some blatent pornographic examples, there is a much higher fraction of tasteful content than can be found elsewhere on the internet.

I think taste is the key difference here- no exploitative poses, no pouting expressions and an overall more natural, artistic look.

Would you consider participating in photography like this? What do you makes the difference between art such as this and regular pornography?
SuperKawaiiNeko
Posts: 75/79
Well. Some of the greatest achievements in human history were accidents, werent they?
emcee
Posts: 699/867
Originally posted by SuperKawaiiNeko
Whats the difference besides photographer quality? =P


Intent.
SuperKawaiiNeko
Posts: 74/79
Whats the difference besides photographer quality? =P
Stalle
Posts: 34/44
deviantART's artistic nude section has ALWAYS been a focal point of criticism due to how much plain old PORN gets uploaded and rarely taken down.
Kasumi-Astra
Posts: 175/258
Having discovered the glamour girls of Ryu's Form Site, I've started looking around for more artistic depictions of the female body.

...So if I can be honest, I wanted some more inspiration for my own art and I honestly find art such as this to be quite enjoyable (I really do ). Of course, finding such art on the pr0n utopia that is the internet is nigh on impossible.

Recently, I started looking at some of the non fan-art sections of Deviant Art and I found some remarkable photos. Many of them are really intimate, artistic, enjoyable depictions of the human body, and not just the women either. It's quite different from the ego-centric, lustful norm you see in pornography, and I find it wonderful and elightening. For someone who's been ashamed of their body for nigh on a decade, it's almost liberating- to the point that I'm considering eating five pieces of fruit and veg a day, taking care of my body properly and participating myself. Really.

NSFW: Deviant Art's Nudity Artistic photography category

I've linked to the all-time most popular view of the category, so much of the photos you'll see will be tasteful- but be careful, some are right stinkers
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