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HyperHacker
Posts: 4497/5072		 Well I linked to plenty more in the other thread.
Alastor
Posts: 7880/8204		 That site is untrustworthy, as it doesn't have enough sources =/
HyperHacker
Posts: 4494/5072		 As long as people are (or were ) discussing global warming here, I may as well link to this. To summarize:


THIS IS NOT NORMAL.
Kasumi-Astra
Posts: 197/258		 Please don't post new posts unless it's responding to fresh replies. Secondly, could you make your replies consist of more than one sentence, and relevant and interesting to the topic at hand.
Finally, this thread had been sleeping without a reply for almost a month- please don't bump inactive threads unless you have something important to say
koopadude
Posts: 15/20		 If there is a black hole in the center of Milky Way, WOW!
SantaMushroom
Posts: 208/245		 I just hope global warming doesn't cause problems in my life. Another natural thing i'm all "piss my pants" about is the Yellowstone super-volcano. It could cause serious damage and even death I just hope it doesn't erupt in my lifetime
koopadude
Posts: 13/20		 I dont know yet, but it said there is dust in the center? But I dont think that is true
l0rca
Posts: 66/70
Originally posted by Kasumi-Astra

The fact is that we know that emissions into our atmosphere can affect the greenhouse effect. We know that the hole in the OZone layer has increased in size throughout the 20th century. We know that sea levels are rising and that we are seeing unprecedented examples of extreme weather. How do you explain these away? You can't.


http://www.everything2.com/index.pl?node_id=1690658&lastnode_id=1140332
Kasumi-Astra
Posts: 170/258
Originally posted by Tanks

That still doesn't mean global warming is a proven fact even if alot of things do point to it... It could be a natural cause we don't know about... If it is a synthetic cause, I would bet it's mostly nuclear power. I was just thinking about this though, what will we say when we have our next little ice age. There's to much ozone being emitted by our "insert whatever waste emmiting thing you want here" global cooling will kill us all!


Whoah, nelly- I said that global warming is a fact- whether synthetic or natural it is most certainly warmer on Planet Earth than two centuries ago. Pleading ignorance is not good enough- in another two centuries there will be dire consequences for the fragile ecosystems in the world. There will be grave losses of human life. You can't just say "there might be something we don't know about".
The fact is that we know that emissions into our atmosphere can affect the greenhouse effect. We know that the hole in the OZone layer has increased in size throughout the 20th century. We know that sea levels are rising and that we are seeing unprecedented examples of extreme weather. How do you explain these away? You can't.

As for nuclear power, it has much less emissions than gas and coal powerstations, and won't contribute nearly as much carbon as the world's fleet of cars. How do can you suggest that it is to blame if you simply don't know?
Tanks
Posts: 371/596
Originally posted by Kasumi-Astra
Global Warming is fact. That's clear. The world has warmed significantly in the past century.

For global warming to be natural, something must be releasing gasses into the atmosphere that intensifies the greenhouse effect. In the past, natural phenomena that altered the climate has included volcanoes, meteorites and thick polar icesheets from ice ages. What natural phenomena do you propose is causing global warming, because it's not any of the above...


That still doesn't mean global warming is a proven fact even if alot of things do point to it... It could be a natural cause we don't know about... If it is a synthetic cause, I would bet it's mostly nuclear power. I was just thinking about this though, what will we say when we have our next little ice age. There's to much ozone being emitted by our "insert whatever waste emmiting thing you want here" global cooling will kill us all!
l0rca
Posts: 62/70
Originally posted by Danielle
*Danielle looks at the book next to her, waiting to be read, The Elegant Universe.

I'll get back to you when I finish this book.


That won't really help. The M-Theory, while helpful, is even more theoretically-inclined. But the first 150 pages are great. I don't remember much about super massive black holes in it though.
Kasumi-Astra
Posts: 169/258		 Global Warming is fact. That's clear. The world has warmed significantly in the past century.

For global warming to be natural, something must be releasing gasses into the atmosphere that intensifies the greenhouse effect. In the past, natural phenomena that altered the climate has included volcanoes, meteorites and thick polar icesheets from ice ages. What natural phenomena do you propose is causing global warming, because it's not any of the above...
Skreename
Posts: 1390/1427
Originally posted by Tanks
and plus the polar ice caps melting wouldn't raise water levels, it would lower since ice is more dense than water.

Err... Aside from the fact that ice is LESS dense than water, that theory seems to have a slight flaw. Is all of the ice that would be melting already in the ocean? No, no it's not. If you've forgotten, Antarctica definitely has GROUND beneath it. Furthermore, the fact that ice floats on water means that even if there was no ground beneath Antarctica (meaning, if it was like the Arctic minus Russia/Canada/etc.), the ice is STILL not already in the oceans, as half of it (plus or minus) is floating on top.

I could swear the ozone layer hole was supposedly caused by CFCs, but that's only tangentially related to that.
Tanks
Posts: 369/596
Originally posted by Jilkon
It has already been proven over and over again that global warming exists and we're in deep shit. It's just that the global companies would much rather make money than save the planet, thus they lobby against the entire idea.


NO.... not really, there's always another side to the issue. Many other scientists think that global warming is natural just like the ice age was natural. Green house gases and other pollutants can cause problems in small areas, such as Mexico City, but it didn't cause a hole in the O-zone layer. that was probably their also. and plus the polar ice caps melting wouldn't raise water levels, it would lower since ice is more dnse than water. I'm not saying, screw the enviorment but rather these things are most likely natural, we're not in deep shit, and go plant a damn tree for mother nature. do it or father time will smite you
Jilkon
Posts: 224/227
Originally posted by Tanks
Originally posted by Stalle
The only way to truly detect a blackhole is by it's gravity and they've done that with so many galaxies it's insane.


They can do that but they can't prove that global warming really exsits? Maybe they should focus on our planets welfare the the black hole that's gonna swallow us in about 300,000,000,000,000 years.

It has already been proven over and over again that global warming exists and we're in deep shit. It's just that the global companies would much rather make money than save the planet, thus they lobby against the entire idea.

As for the black hole deal, it kinda reminds me of Gunbuster. Watch that, it has a nice twist to it.
Kasumi-Astra
Posts: 168/258		 But the likelihood of him finding it is looking pretty bad
FreeDOS +
Posts: 1092/1312
Originally posted by Kasumi-Astra
What I'd take away from this thread is that if Google doesn't have the answer, Wikipedia doesn't have the answer, and we don't have the answer, then it's a fair bet that no-one does

Actually it's not really fair at all, there's plenty of information out there not to be seen on the Internet.
Stalle
Posts: 21/44		 Oh come on, It's a Futurama reference.
Lakithunder
Posts: 1040/1284
Originally posted by Stalle
Shatner IS the real slim shady.. all you other slim shadys.. are just imitating.

*cough*

Sorry.


He ain't slim, dawg, he is faaaat...

Good rap song though...in a way....
Stalle
Posts: 20/44		 Shatner IS the real slim shady.. all you other slim shadys.. are just imitating.

*cough*

Sorry.
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