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Zem
Posts: 924/1097
Originally posted by Leo D.
3) Only because it's sprited, doesn't mean you can't make it like a drawn comic. Try using different angles, close-ups, etc. Play around and see what looks better.

Yes. 8-Bit Theatre is a good example of this. In fact it's the only sprite comic I've seen that even bothers. Most of them follow the Bob and George format of four static panels... which works, but looks like it was put together on an assembly line.
Leo D.
Posts: 13/23
Originally posted by HyperMackerel
You should find that comic someone drew where Mario kicked a baby Yoshi toward a Big Boo and it exploded (as it does in SMW). Mario's facial expression was completely changed by editing two pixels.

What? Baby Yoshi? Boo? Explosion? I tried that and it didn't work...
EDIT: Oh, it only works for Big Boo Boss. Looks like EVERYTHING you throw at him explodes.

By the way, I would like to give somme advice to sprite comic artists too.
1) A single line for a speech bubble's tail gets hard to see. Like in the comic KATW posted... Pink and Green were a bad choice. How are we supposed to see a green line in a green background?
2) Sometimes people mix styles so badly. If you use 8-bit graphics in your comics, don't just add 16-bit shaded sprites in it. And if you want to use 8-bit sprites in your 16-bit comics, at least shade them. Also, one thing I've seen a lot is mixing Super Mario RPG and Donkey Kong Country sprites with 2D sprites... the result is ugly
2) If a character or plot is overused, better not use them. I think there's already too many Sonic and Megaman sprite comics scattered around the web, and we don't need another one. Try a different game/franchise. Like Bomberman. I've never seen a Bomberman sprite comic in my whole life.
3) Only because it's sprited, doesn't mean you can't make it like a drawn comic. Try using different angles, close-ups, etc. Play around and see what looks better.
4) Swearing and blood don't make a comic funny. I think I only used blood once in my comics, and it was in a very small quantity.
5) These guidelines aren't "laws" you need to follow at all costs. They're only for helping
Uh... I think that's all I have to say for now. Oh, and Shadic, Link's eye changes color in the last panel. I don't see a reason for that, since he doesn't look angry.
HyperHacker
Posts: 663/5072
You should find that comic someone drew where Mario kicked a baby Yoshi toward a Big Boo and it exploded (as it does in SMW). Mario's facial expression was completely changed by editing two pixels.
Smallhacker
Posts: 175/832
Originally posted by Shyguy
Megadeux


When did they rename Megazeux?
Shadic
Posts: 57/528


I... Don't fine that a bad use for comic sans... Even though it's you know, bolded and what-not. I've been using Comic Sans for awhile, but I guess I'll find another, smaller font.


By the way, that's an old-as-hell comic that I did awhile ago, and gave up on.
JDavis
Posts: 65/648
I agree with Alastor for once. Amazing.
Deleted User
Posts: 164/-7750
Meh.... Tried to pop it off the top of my head.
Alastor
Posts: 595/8204
to Shyguy:

... What?

Both of those seem bad to me.
Deleted User
Posts: 163/-7750
Also, make a step about using the jokes and context.

Bad: Why did something cross the road, Megadeux? ---------- Your butt! Ha!


Good: (Insert Megadeux saying something new and fresh to ZZT here)



Simon Belmont
Posts: 19/1773
Originally posted by Cymoro






WINS
Riku
Posts: 163/1823
*Copies and saves in wordpad*

Main things:

- Jokes
- Grammer (D
- Text?

So yeah, thanks.
Zem
Posts: 128/1097
Excellent thread. A+. Would read again

Content is a bit harder. Lemme see if I can articulate a couple things though.

One thing that I've seen a lot... people planning to introduce OHNO PLOT TWISTS in their comics and making use of AWESOME FORESHADOWING like having some shadowy bad guys give vague, shadowy pronouncements in a shadowy room. "DOES HE SUSPECT ANYTHING YET??" "NO." "GOOD SO YOU CAN BETRAY HIM. IN THE FUTURE. AND PEOPLE WILL GO LIKE OMG." Having a plan and hinting at craziness to come is fine and all, but make sure it's not completely predictable and stupid... and if you're planning ahead, try to really think through everything so you don't end up having to do a bunch of lame retcons (that is, changing things that already happened in the comic (or coming up with absurd situations to explain why they were NOT WHAT THEY SEEM) to fit in with what you decided your NEW plan is).

Self-insertion comics about you and your friends are usually lame. Just something I've noticed. Don't think I've ever seen any good ones.

Please, please, please re-read the dialogue and overall flow of a particular comic to ensure that it makes sense. Imagine you're someone else seeing it for the first time and just think whether it's easy to tell what's going on. I've tried to struggle through way too many comics where each panel was filled with characters, motion lines, and word bubbles of unknown origin and no clear sequence.

Oh, that's another thing, word bubbles. For whatever reason, even the best-produced sprite comics out there have occasional slip-ups where you naturally read the word bubbles in the wrong order and have to go back over them to make sense. Most amateur sprite comics are filled with this kind of thing, and it makes reading through them twice as hard and makes them suck twice as much. Even if it causes a little more clutter, make sure that A) it's clear who's talking and B) it's easy to read left to right, top to bottom and you'll get the dialogue in the right order. Sometimes this takes a little finagling to get right, but it's worth it.

That's all I can think of for now.
Cymoro
Posts: 72/-244
Some suggestions for content: Do not get ideas from sitcoms or family-friendly TV. A much better type of humor to zuse is British. Wastch some Monty Python, Red Dwarf, and read a few Douglas Adams books. I'm not saying take material from them (i.e. A comic that says NI NI NI NI 42 ITS COLD OUTSIDE), but try to model your writing after it.
Yoshi Dude
Posts: 254/1408
Originally posted by EvilMushroom
Anyone that can help me more, like with some good dialouge tips, or even one liners,
Provided that you stick to good grammar and all, the only thing left is the content.
Don't write down the first thing that pops into your head and show it off. It'll probably be stupid. Write it down, let it sit for a while, look at it again later.. is it still funny? Can any improvements be made? Should this writing be trashed?
Show a few friends, get pointers. Heck, you can post it here. If you put in a good effort, it will show, even if the content itself bombs. People will be more willing to help you out.
That's just one method of perfecting your comic.
No inside jokes.
Um.. yeah. Dialogue is much more difficult to guide, because a lot of it is just talent. You can make a sprite comic look good with practice, but sometimes people can never become a humorous or interesting writer.
Just keep working at it. Comics improve with practice.
SantaMushroom
Posts: 15/245
I'm overall crap at sprite comics. In fact, i basically suck at most forms of art or comics. I am just one of those people that need to practice. A lot, infact. Let me get out one of my comics.. Wait.
I'm just going to tell you.
It all is talking faces, and a stickman. Anyone that can help me more, like with some good dialouge tips, or even one liners,
JDavis
Posts: 39/648
It looks fine in mine.

Of course, I use Paint Shop Pro, so it's anti-aliased and I don't bold it 99.9% of the time (there have been occasions of bold when a character was yelling, but then it is also increased in size).
Xkeeper
Posts: 357/5653
Originally posted by JDavis
What's wrong with Comic Sans?

It's overused and tends not to look that good in sprite comics.
JDavis
Posts: 38/648
What's wrong with Comic Sans?
Xkeeper
Posts: 353/5653
Cymoro
Posts: 61/-244
Originally posted by Yoshi Dude
NOTHING about content is mentioned


Your mom didn't mention content >(

There's a few thing I have to add, and two sections are going to be dedicated to content (humor and storylines), not to mention a few more.

(My sarcasm meter is also down for the week due to having bad luck, so forgive me for any serious business D: )
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