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Ziff
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Um, to be honest...flipping burgers at a McDonald's isn't going to give you any useful skills later in life.

And you're doing this for a VIDEO GAME CONSOLE!? I'm sorry, but I see nothing but idiocy here. Shouldn't you be working harder at school (which is so easy) and getting high 90 averages. Get a scholarship. Get a sick summer intern job. And then worry about pleasing your temporal desires of a bunch of plastic and melted sand at a later day?
NintendoFB
Posts: 49/190
Where I live, education is ridiculously easy, I have too much off time and I would rather be working somewhere, for little money, but learning some sort of skills needed for any later point in my life...













... I also need money for the Wii
geeogree
Posts: 200/207
not sure where else this is the case, but in Canada you can get parental permission to work as young as 12, but the minimum age in most places in 14.

I don't see why people that young would want to work . Even at that age you're not going to make very much money.

Plus, I think focusing more on your education and less on making money right now is the smart thing to do.
Metal Man88
Posts: 413/701
Eh. It's an oversight caused by the laws made to protect children from being forced into labor. But, in this case, I feel it's on the right side of overseeing--like some other laws about voting and such.
Schweiz oder etwas
Posts: 1793/2046
Originally posted by Pvt. Prinny
Originally posted by Dr_Death16
2. Child labor was once used as a sort of slavery, if you knew anything about history, you'd be aware of the term "sweatshop".


I'm going to point out, that "sweatshops" were never touched on in History Class in my entire life and required out of school education.



The History Channel rocks.

I am quoting this for truth and reconciliation. We dicked around with the American Revolution while I was reading up on Bolshevism and Napoleon. No sweatshops there... Lotta funny hats, though.

Anyway, a lot of the labor laws have to do with insurance policies for a company, too... For example, if you cut yourself with a knife at a restaurant or a box cutter at a retail location, your blood is on that company's hands. You're more of a liability because the converse of Death's statement is true: If you screw yourself up as a cause of work, then your employers are the ones who get in trouble.

Not only that, but as far as a service industry goes, there's a certain etiquette that's to be followed between served and server, as well as a degree of respect that's to be exchanged between them. A lot of adults for some reason have trouble seeking help for mundane tasks from kids, like finding something in the aisle of a store or ordering food from them. They want to see someone older and more "responsible" with a job like that. It gives them security and satisfaction.
spiroth10
Posts: 81/145
I used to feel the same way...

although now Im kinda angry because I live in a small town with no way out (my dad works full time, mom doesn't drive) so I cannot get a job, even though I am 16. Heck, I need a job in order to get a car to get a job. It's an endless loop right now.

but yeah, child labor laws are generally a good thing. Although I do think it would be nice if it was easier to get jobs at younger ages. I remember my first job. It was 2 summers ago. I only got it because of my sister. I sorted files. It was terribly boring.

like I said, I have trouble getting work now. But at your age, you shouldnt really be worrying about jobs/money. Just go and hang out with your friends.

Join a sports team (wrestling's awesome... sorry I had to plug my favorite sport). Seriously, modified sports are fun. It's not serious at all, and if you suck nobody cares. Its all for fun at that level.

It'll get you in shape too.
Sinfjotle
Posts: 1557/1697
Originally posted by Dr_Death16
2. Child labor was once used as a sort of slavery, if you knew anything about history, you'd be aware of the term "sweatshop".


I'm going to point out, that "sweatshops" were never touched on in History Class in my entire life and required out of school education.



The History Channel rocks.
NintendoFB
Posts: 36/190
I see your point, but I'm willing to work. Many 16 year olds are more responsible than me, but not where I live. I haven't learned much history, but I know why Child Labor laws exist.Again, I just wanted to get it off my chest.
Dr_Death16
Posts: 609/970
1. At such a young age you're not even slightly responsible for your own actions, so if you screw up, the company or your parents are probably going to get the brunt of the punishment one way or another. At least 16-year-olds are a bit more responsible in many ways. 2. Child labor was once used as a sort of slavery, if you knew anything about history, you'd be aware of the term "sweatshop". Also, poor and abusive parents could force young kids to work to make them money if they really wanted, and an age limit prevents that sort of problem. There are more reasons, but I'll stop there.

Really, in the end, if I'm an employer looking for new employees, why would I hire a 14 year old junior high kid for minimum wage when I could hire someone older who is legally responsible for their actions and has more experience in life for the same wage?
NintendoFB
Posts: 33/190
The stupid law saying that I can't work until I reach a certain age. Why? Is it because I can't compete with the "more mature" employees? School? I'm not responsible enough?

I see millions of douchebags complaining about getting hired at positions that I legally can't. I would gladly get paid to work retail. I know I'm only 14, but I want to be able to get my share of money too.

Please explain, if you can the reasons for these laws.
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