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Ailure
Posts: 2110/2602
"Zune MP3 by Microsoft is iPod killer for Christmas 2006. Get the latest info on Zune."

First thing that comes up on google. I didn't check the site itself but, whenever something claims to be a iPod killer, it usually isn't.
HyperHacker
Posts: 4020/5072
You missed a few.

Step 4.1: Install patch #KB38y75843256Q-7G.
Step 4.2: Watch how much better the system performs. No more "error 0102" on bootup! Now only "error 0116" immediately after bootup.
Cirvania
Posts: 1014/1181
You people fail to consider that the product in question is made by Microsoft.

CIRVANTE'S QUICKY GUIDE TO ZUNE, 11.13.2006

Step one: Buy a Zune (~$250)

Step two: Download your music and watch as it's DRMed behind your back.

Step three: Play your music.

Step four: Stare at the screen in horror as Zune suddenly decides to freeze up in the middle of things. WHY HALO THAR BSOD! :O

Step five: Desperately try to revive your Zune into a working state to no avail, leaving you with a cryptic error code and the option to call Microsoft's Customer Service department (yeah right).

Step six: Repeat ad nauseam until you wake up and decide to buy a better (and cheaper) multimedia player.
HyperHacker
Posts: 4016/5072
Originally posted by drjayphd
Hope you dirty, stinkin' pirates enjoy paying Universal for the privilege of using a Zune. Wait, what do you mean you don't download illegally? That's not what Microsoft says. Oh, what's this? You say you don't listen to music on Universal's labels? TOO BAD. You're paying them anyway.

If you'll excuse me, I'll see if anyone's installed an orifice in Redmond so one could literally fuck Microsoft in the earhole. Dunno where Universal's headquarters are, but I'd imagine the same thing would be going on.

Hah, I like one of those comments. Since we're paying for music they assume we're going to download illegally, does that mean we should have permission to download illegal music?
paulguy
Posts: 62/71
The DS can play Vorbis for me. Sounds great. Kinda expensive though. The card is about $75 and the memory card is about $20 for a 1GB. Still worth it though; don't have to waste money on games I don't like. I buy games I like.
drjayphd
Posts: 1000/1170
Hope you dirty, stinkin' pirates enjoy paying Universal for the privilege of using a Zune. Wait, what do you mean you don't download illegally? That's not what Microsoft says. Oh, what's this? You say you don't listen to music on Universal's labels? TOO BAD. You're paying them anyway.

If you'll excuse me, I'll see if anyone's installed an orifice in Redmond so one could literally fuck Microsoft in the earhole. Dunno where Universal's headquarters are, but I'd imagine the same thing would be going on.
NintendoFB
Posts: 73/190
Damn, I'm gonna get one. Thanks a lot!
FreeDOS +
Posts: 1004/1312
Best Buy for $40. The 1GB CompactFlash was $30.
NintendoFB
Posts: 69/190
FreeDOS: Where'd you get it? I've been looking everywhere for one of those, but none of them are under $80...
FreeDOS +
Posts: 995/1312
Not a flash cart, Max Media Dock. a puny $40 device that can defeat all of the PSP fanboys' claims. Right now it has a 1GB CompactFlash in it halt-full of MP3s (I'd normally use vorbis, but the DS doesn't quite have that much power).
paulguy
Posts: 61/71
Originally posted by FreeDOS
Personally, I just use my DS to play music; but mostly because my iPod broke and it's less expensive to get a CompactFlash card.


HAHA yeah! I do the same thing. I'm listening to CT music right now. What flashcart do you have?

Also, about the MP3 player, get something less... Microsoft... Creative is a good brand.
HyperHacker
Posts: 3968/5072
Call me crazy but I prefer having a product that works to one that I have to (technically illegally) hack to do what it should be doing. MuVo makes some nice DRM-free players Creative makes some nice DRM-free players such as the MuVo series, or you can use a DS. Plus even if you work around the DRM, you're still supporting it by buying the product.

BTW, recording the songs back through your analog input is A) completely unnecessary when you should be able to simply copy them back, and B) quite painful if you like your songs to sound good.
FreeDOS +
Posts: 985/1312
Personally, I just use my DS to play music; but mostly because my iPod broke and it's less expensive to get a CompactFlash card.
spiroth10
Posts: 79/145
does that really matter for me though? I have a 512MB flash drive for transporting music/Data around, and I don't plan on using the WiFi capabilities, especially to share songs. I think the concept is stupid.

I just want to play music (with high quality) and video (in decent quality), and to see pictures, portably, and do it for myself.

my flash drive is perfect for sharing things, as stated above. So is my CD/DVD-RW drive. and my memory card slots, not to mention my removable floppy disk drive.

and about DRM, I'll be the first to admit I have no respect for laws in regard to anything digital. I would see nothing wrong with illegally removing such information. Not only would there be no proof of this crime, but I'm pretty sure some hacker group will find a way to strip this -- or even hack the firmware.

but that makes me ask myself if I even care about the DRM. Im not sharing the music FROM the player. It all starts on my PC's 250 gig HD. so, tell me again how this affects me?

edit:

also, If I really want to break the DRM, during one of the three plays I can hook it up to my PC Via a double sided headphone jack (yes, I actually have one of those... dont ask how/why) into my line in, and record it playing through, then cut out the silence before/after the song. voila. perfect quality too.
Xkeeper
Posts: 4445/5653
Zune automatically adds its own DRM to any media file played on it, so even if you make an MP3 yourself or it's not "pirated" (OCRemix, for example), sending it to someone will automaitcally give them only 3 times to listen to it.

That's why they suck.
spiroth10
Posts: 78/145
yeah, I'm actually going with MS this time, but Im not part of the audio/video player holy war here. It was just convienient timing, and the fact that ebgames is selling them.

I no longer wanted my gamecube, as I rarely play games anymore, and had a bunch of XBOX games/some DS games to get rid of for the same reason (I am keeping some games though). I Did, however, want an mp3 player with at least 30 gigs and decent video support.

I ended up trading in $237 worth of games/hardware (and Im gonna sell some more on ebay or amazon soon -- older/rarer stuff though), and (seeing as I'm no longer buying new consoles -- Im a PC gamer now) I preordered a Zune in Black.

I could care less who makes it or why. I could care less if they stop making zunes in a month. I just wanted a media player, and Im getting one. like I said, Im not part of the holy war, and if I was, I'd have to rally against apple. Up until now they're player has been extremely overpriced. They only bring it down now because of the Zune, even if they won't admit it, the price gradient wasn't in their favor.

but if they had Ipods at eb, and I could have traded in old games to get one, I would have done so just as fast. Although I *do* like the bigger screen (yes, I know the resolution is the same), and I've heard terrible things about the battery life of Ipods while running video.

Right now, Im stuck using MS Media Center XP anyway -- this computer is (almost) solely ment at running games as close to full speed/graphics as possible -- Linux/wine just dont offer that, and it'll be awhile yet until games are made for linux, so Im fine with the windows-only thing.

comments/questions/complaints? If you want to, you can try to persuade me to cancel the Zune and get credit back -- there is enough there to get a wii if you can show me I made the wrong choice -- but I doubt you can. As long as I can put my current MP3/WMA/video collection on the Zune, I'm totally satisfied.
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