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Kingpin
Posts: 681/709
Originally posted by Prinny God of Nature
I'll see your somewhat less stupid ads...

...and raise you another piece of trash.

I will see your piece of trash and raise you the entire piece of trash in better quality.
PrincessPeach
Posts: 278/381
Originally posted by Ten
Whelp, I just found a pair of um... non-idiotic ads for the PS3, let's watch those.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hFkH8bdKi4g
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oYIic2odNqs&NR



Both commercials feel like bad plots from sci-fi movies.
Schweiz oder etwas
Posts: 1757/2046
I'll see your somewhat less stupid ads...

...and raise you another piece of trash.
Ten
Posts: 205/261
Whelp, I just found a pair of um... non-idiotic ads for the PS3, let's watch those.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hFkH8bdKi4g
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oYIic2odNqs&NR
Zidane
Posts: 66/105
Originally posted by Cara Zeltina
Are you really sure it is working for them? Can you prove that? I can't prove otherwise either of course, but the way you're holding up your arguement is with an undertone that you "know" it is working for them, and I don't see how you could "know" that anymore than I could. Still, it doesn't take much to see this is a pretty poor-taste advertisement.. And I can't see anyone in their 40's or so doing anything but rolling their eyes at these ad's..

Seriously, you can hold a professional image marketed towards 30-40 year olds that still catches the eye of the younger demograph without blowing up grandma's house and throwing zebra's around. Whether or not it actually works is definitely one thing, while whether or not it is stupid as hell is another. In the end though.. I suspect it can be "both."

Edit:
By the way, scientific stufies and crap to see what the audience wants doesn't really mean anything to me.. If that really worked, we wouldn't (all of us wouldn't) see so many annoying or pointless advertisements like we do today.. You can't ever read the minds of the public, it is a wild variable that cannot be determined by a scientific study.. At best, they round off an estimate from a vague or rough figure that only included a relatively small or moderate portion of the audience to begin with, and for that reason you can't ever actually "know" something is working.. They can only just "hope" it works in their position.


Maybe the advertising agency could've come up with something that may attract an audience of all ages, but it may not have been what they were hired to produce.

But are you even trying to understand my posts? There was no "knowing" undertone - I said quite clearly that Sony's commercial is working for them. I also happen to know that statistical analysis data is correct more often than not. Estimates are not vague, though they can sometimes be a little rough. If you want to thoroughly understand how and why statistical analysis works, though, you'll be studying for years.

Though some of the commercials you consider "annoying" or "pointless" may not be effective due to cheap research or budget constraints, most of them are. Have you ever seen the HeadOn commercial? It's been showing for quite a while now. It's one of the most annoying commercials I've ever seen, but it must be working if they're still using it.
Cara Zeltina
Posts: 86/95
I'd be fine with it if they were advertising HD "and" the console properly. Instead, for two minutes they go on about high definition picture quality (while only circling a camera around granny's house) and then a bunch of stuff explodes.. I know "why" they made stuff explode, it was an effect to add to the whole HD thing they kept going on about.. but it has "nothing" to do with the console or its picture quality, "at all."

Like I initially said.. it felt more like a Kodak commercial for the majority of it, then it just felt stupid towards the end as they threw in the Afrika footage for a couple of seconds.. I mean, ugh, if you're so on about it, why not "focus" on that game and have a bit of granny exploding at the end? And not the other way around like it is?
drjayphd
Posts: 979/1170
I have to say, the single most intelligent and thoughtful comments on that clip came from responses to rainbowwarrior777. Yes, you all wholeheartedly agree.

Although this was a close second: "Yeah! SRRSLY. WHat is this stupid shit. No one is screaming or playing rock music. You know? I didn't see a single can of Mountain Dew the ENTIRE time. I don't even understand how a calm ad can possibly be effective. Especially when it's clearly supposed to be in HD. I mean, YouTube HAS the sort of HD quality streaming that is needed to capture that quality, so WTF Sony? YOU GUYZ SUX!"

(Psst: the ad's way too brainy for its own good. It might be effective if it wasn't so... well, if it had anything to do with the PS3.)
Cara Zeltina
Posts: 85/95
Are you really sure it is working for them? Can you prove that? I can't prove otherwise either of course, but the way you're holding up your arguement is with an undertone that you "know" it is working for them, and I don't see how you could "know" that anymore than I could. Still, it doesn't take much to see this is a pretty poor-taste advertisement.. And I can't see anyone in their 40's or so doing anything but rolling their eyes at these ad's..

Seriously, you can hold a professional image marketed towards 30-40 year olds that still catches the eye of the younger demograph without blowing up grandma's house and throwing zebra's around. Whether or not it actually works is definitely one thing, while whether or not it is stupid as hell is another. In the end though.. I suspect it can be "both."

Edit:
By the way, scientific stufies and crap to see what the audience wants doesn't really mean anything to me.. If that really worked, we wouldn't (all of us wouldn't) see so many annoying or pointless advertisements like we do today.. You can't ever read the minds of the public, it is a wild variable that cannot be determined by a scientific study.. At best, they round off an estimate from a vague or rough figure that only included a relatively small or moderate portion of the audience to begin with, and for that reason you can't ever actually "know" something is working.. They can only just "hope" it works in their position.
Zidane
Posts: 65/105
Originally posted by Cara Zeltina
Originally posted by Zidane
It was a commercial targeting an older, non-gaming audience. When you look at these things with the bias that goes along with being young and a gamer, of course you're not going to understand it. :p If you look at it from another angle, it's commercials like these that convince older people to buy a product for either their kids or themselves.

There's no need to be angry for not seeing shots of upcoming games, though. There will most likely be plenty of game commercials as their release date draws closer (though really, it's never anything different from what you've already seen at a site like Gamespot).

I sort of fit in the older demograph moreso than the younger one.. And I still find the commercial to be fucking stupid. I mean.. it felt more like a Kodak advertisement or something, until they talk about getting shot, which is even more fucking stupid, because they're essentially suggesting their console is "so real" you can hardly tell the difference from it and the world around you.. and we all know that's full of crap.

Graphics have gotten good, but not photorealistic good, and certainly there is nothing immersive enough to merit that kind of an advertisement angle.. It sounds very much like they're making it out to be beyond what it is, and preying on the naive to fall for it.. Not that it would be a first for any company to do that, but ugh, there are so many more intelligent ways to have gone about this..

The whole thing just.. bored me. Like most commercials do, but worse it told me nothing about the product or the games.. why should I care, is what I ask myself.. And that's kind of counter-productive for what a commercial is suppose to do. (They're suppose to at least tell you what a product does, so the interested will actually look further into it later..) Meh, I admit I am not Sony's greatest fan at the moment either, but if they had made a cool commercial, displaying all of what the console could do, I might have at least given them some credit for that.. but lately it just feels like they keep screwing stuff up..


I was thinking it targeted people in their late thirties or early forties. Unfortunately, there are some things that people cannot see for what they really are. So, simply put, commercials like these coming from big companies like Sony all work for the company in some way. They spend large amounts of money in hiring professionals to conduct scientific polls, analyze statistics, and figure out how people think. Whether you like it or not, this commercial is working for them.
Cara Zeltina
Posts: 84/95
Originally posted by Zidane
It was a commercial targeting an older, non-gaming audience. When you look at these things with the bias that goes along with being young and a gamer, of course you're not going to understand it. :p If you look at it from another angle, it's commercials like these that convince older people to buy a product for either their kids or themselves.

There's no need to be angry for not seeing shots of upcoming games, though. There will most likely be plenty of game commercials as their release date draws closer (though really, it's never anything different from what you've already seen at a site like Gamespot).

I sort of fit in the older demograph moreso than the younger one.. And I still find the commercial to be fucking stupid. I mean.. it felt more like a Kodak advertisement or something, until they talk about getting shot, which is even more fucking stupid, because they're essentially suggesting their console is "so real" you can hardly tell the difference from it and the world around you.. and we all know that's full of crap.

Graphics have gotten good, but not photorealistic good, and certainly there is nothing immersive enough to merit that kind of an advertisement angle.. It sounds very much like they're making it out to be beyond what it is, and preying on the naive to fall for it.. Not that it would be a first for any company to do that, but ugh, there are so many more intelligent ways to have gone about this..

The whole thing just.. bored me. Like most commercials do, but worse it told me nothing about the product or the games.. why should I care, is what I ask myself.. And that's kind of counter-productive for what a commercial is suppose to do. (They're suppose to at least tell you what a product does, so the interested will actually look further into it later..) Meh, I admit I am not Sony's greatest fan at the moment either, but if they had made a cool commercial, displaying all of what the console could do, I might have at least given them some credit for that.. but lately it just feels like they keep screwing stuff up..
Xeo Belmont
Posts: 455/1016
Originally posted by Prinny God of Nature
Xeogred, you know... I've kinda come to have a silent respect for you... But right now, that's hinging on whether or not you're being sarcastic.


Haha, yeah sorry. My posts have been quite sloppy and too short lately. I was being sarcastic, or at least tried to.

Basically, this ad sucks ass.
Zidane
Posts: 64/105
It was a commercial targeting an older, non-gaming audience. When you look at these things with the bias that goes along with being young and a gamer, of course you're not going to understand it. :p If you look at it from another angle, it's commercials like these that convince older people to buy a product for either their kids or themselves.

There's no need to be angry for not seeing shots of upcoming games, though. There will most likely be plenty of game commercials as their release date draws closer (though really, it's never anything different from what you've already seen at a site like Gamespot).
Cynthia
Posts: 4999/5814
There was also U R Not E, which is rather self-explanatory.
NSNick
Posts: 1757/2228
It was for the original PlayStation, and it stood for "Ready the Ninth Of September."
FreeDOS +
Posts: 959/1312
That was... just stupid. If they hope they can sell consoles, they better have included some subliminal messages in there or something, because that's not going to get them anywhere.

and no, I don't remember ENOS, mind explaning it? (I probably never saw it in the first place, I rarely watch TV)
Cynthia
Posts: 4994/5814
Yeah but that wasn't as retarded. It was actually clever for the few people who got it.

Who does Sony have doing their ads now? Can't be in-house...
NSNick
Posts: 1756/2228
Sony always does weird ads for console launches. Remember ENOS?
Tanks
Posts: 326/596
After seeing the commercial with the old lady... I felt... well... yeah... not so sure sony was actually do so well. First the set the prices to high, then they lower the price of the crap downgraded system but will only take affect weeks after the release, and now they show some commercial with Grandma blowing up her living room... Is Sony on drugs? I really don't see what that whole 2min. commercial had to do wth Afrika?
cpubasic13
Posts: 884/1193
Haven't seen that ad yet, however I just saw another ad for the PS3. It started with the PS3 shown, then the camera zooms out to show a baby doll with no clothes on looking at it. The view goes to the baby's face, where it starts to smile and giggle, but then the giggle turns into a horribly evil laugh as its arms start flailing up and down. Its eyes show various images of games (some explosions and whatnot, but too hard to tell what was what) and then its eyes turn red as it telepathically raises the PS3 off the ground.

Under it it says "Play B3YOND" and then it goes black with the release date on it. However, it just said 1117, not 11/17, and it looked like ///7.

That was fucked up.
Ten
Posts: 203/261
To think a year ago I was knocking Nintendo for being deviant and praising Sony for staying on the ball...
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