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| Ailure Posts: 2083/2602 |
Originally posted by ColinTrue. Thing is, back in the Atari days, Atari had complete domination and were close to dominating if I recall, while today we have three diffrent major consoles and two handhelds. | ||||||||||||
| PrincessPeach Posts: 288/381 |
Nintendo sued Lik-Sang because Lik-Sang sold Flashcards and writer for Game Boy and Nintendo 64.
And I could understand Sony, if it really was illegal or moral not accectable to sell PSP's to Europe (It remains uncertain, if the PSP or PS3 are devices of hell or not), but It's a complete different matter to sue one company in many different countries for the same reason in the same time frame. On a sidenote: Phoenix Writh lost it. | ||||||||||||
| HyperHacker Posts: 4012/5072 |
Well I can't blame you for not throwing out your existing Sony products. I still use my Playstation (albeit mostly for NES emulation) sometimes. Buying new products and using the ones you already have are quite separate. | ||||||||||||
| Yoronosuku Posts: 985/1239 |
Originally posted by HyperHackerOriginally posted by Yoronosuku I'll admit I was not a huge fan of the rootkit dealie, but I won't lie, the Sony products I do own, namely the few games that were PSX/2 specific that I still love to play, are obviously only playable on their products  granted, Sony themself did not make the game product, so it dosn't make much of a difference. Regardless, I would boycot their entire product line, yes, games and all, if they were to get PA shut down. There's just some things you don't fool with. | ||||||||||||
| NintendoFB Posts: 52/190 |
What was the point of that lawsuit? Sony still made the money off the PSPs. | ||||||||||||
| Cynthia Posts: 5132/5814 |
They won't.  If Sony was ever to blow a system, Microsoft and Nintendo would pick up the gamers. | ||||||||||||
| The Red Snifit Posts: 659/739 |
Sheesh...
At THIS rate, Sony will cause the next video game crash.
Sony has to do something REALLY good for me to like them again.  | ||||||||||||
| HyperHacker Posts: 3973/5072 |
Now get me some barbed wire and some plane tickets.  Really I should try to contact the ISP, but I fear if I email them they'll just spam me. | ||||||||||||
| BlackNemesis13 Posts: 4/17 |
Looks like some phishing scammers are already trying to profit from this whole thing. I just got this e-mail yesterday:
-- Dear valued customer, Your Login/Email is: e-mail@domain.com Your password is: *********** As of today, Lik-Sang.com will not be in the position to accept any new orders and will cancel and refund all existing orders that have already been placed. Furthermore, Lik-Sang is working closely with banks and PayPal to refund any store credits held by the company, and the customer support department is taking care of any open transactions such as pending RMAs or repairs and shipping related matters. The staff of Lik-Sang will make sure that nobody will get hurt in the crossfire of this ordeal. To read the full article please visit: http://www.lik-sang.com/news.php?artc=3901 Our records indicates you can retrieve an additional $ 9,99 USD refund in your PayPal account. In order to successfully retrieve the refund please confirm your existing PayPal account on this page. Please notice that the confirmation of your PayPal account is needed to have this refund send into your PayPal account. If your PayPal account is no longer active on this (e-mail@domain.com) address you will have to create a free PayPal account at: https://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=_registration-run to retrieve this refund. Once your account is created and activated please confirm your account information at the above page. We feel very sorry for any inconvenience and trying to make all refunds to take place as soon as possible. Team Lik-Sang -- I removed the direct link to their site but it linked to a page at ljk-sang.com that probably (I didn't click the link obviously) asks for login info. Anyone else get an e-mail like this? | ||||||||||||
| HyperHacker Posts: 3871/5072 |
Originally posted by rubixcuber Yeah, it does annoy me that Nintendo would go after the supplier of a device that can be, but isn't exclusively, used for piracy rather than the actual pirates. But at least they were suing over sales of a piracy-related item, and just filed one lawsuit to regain the losses they claim to have suffered (whether they did or not is another story). As opposed to Sony's exploitation of the law to run someone out of business for selling their own product. Originally posted by Yoronosuku With all the BS they've pulled recently, you haven't already?  I was never a fan of their products to begin with, and I completely stopped buying any Sony product after that rootkit incident. | ||||||||||||
| stardust4ever Posts: 3/23 |
In the past, I have bought several items from Lik-Sang.com
The first item I ever ordered from them was an N64 Gameshark Pro for $30 - I chose Lik-Sang b/c they had a surplus - it would have been fifty in the US. Although it had great hacking software, my Game Shark was very finiky, and finally died after about six months - when I was saving the code "Mario 64 Everything Cap", my TV screen garbled up and when I reset all was dead
I had also ordered a portable famicom (3rd party crap), of which I had to stuff a piece of cardboard between the cartrige to keep it from resetting. Oh, and their "Global Priority" mail system was sooo sloooooooooooooooooooooooooooooww....... Once I waited like 4 months for a product to get there, although I was being cheap with postage. I ordered two items a month apart and a month and a half later, both arrived on the same day. But I did get my hands on a special little gem  of a GBA cart:
Famicom Mini Series #21: FDS Super Mario 2j Known in the USA as the lost levels, I got about as far on it as my fiance did on SMB1 - which is "not very" 
I believe the day that it finally arrived at my doorstep, made it all the more worth it in the end  | ||||||||||||
| Cynthia Posts: 5053/5814 |
Play-Asia's trying to cover their own asses here and I'm not surprised. Better safe than sorry right now.
On the other hand, if they stop orders and Sony STILL goes after them, then there's no excuse. | ||||||||||||
| Yoronosuku Posts: 960/1239 |
Originally posted by Millenia I'm not even kidding. If they shut down PA, I will officialy and forever abandon the Sony brand. This is not fangirlism based, its the fact that Sony is being complete jackasses to these legitimate, useful, and resourceful companies for no reason. | ||||||||||||
| Cara Zeltina Posts: 91/95 |
Originally posted by rubixcuber It is not a matter that Sony sued Lik.. Neither does it matter that Nintendo did in the past, that's all well and good for both of them. The "point" here is the -method- Sony used.. They filed duplicate cases against Lik in multiple different countries, effectively pinning Lik-Sang (a relatively small business) into a corner with an army of lawsuits.. Think of driving a nail into a wall with a cannon ball, that was the type of tactics that Sony used here.. they did NOT need to file the case in multiple locations like they did,. and Lik had NO HOPE of ever fighting all of that.. How "could" you fight all that? You'd be facing a lot of different types of laws and styles of lawyers.. and a very high - if not absurd - cost. Sony also goes on record to say it isn't their fault.. But clearly from Lik's statements, and the obvious issue I just listed above.. it WAS their fault. So they basically lied, full well knowing they were going to drive someone out of business. Now whether or not Lik had it coming with their "grey area" business to begin with is another story.. This case (or rather multiple duplicate cases) was filed on something unrelated.. The claimed reason for Sony suing was rather trivial, as I am sure most can agree.. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to see that Sony just planned from the start to snuff them out - since I doubt they even cared about the case itself, and just wanted the supplier out of the way.. Alastor made it a point earlier though.. Lik was a grey-area company and acted very spiteful in response to this, it is hard to say anyone was the good guy here.. But regardless, Sony chose some dirty tactics, and Lik was a very reliable supplier for gamers worldwide.. It doesn't bode well for Sony when you look at the full picture. | ||||||||||||
| Hiryuu Posts: 1911/2480 |
Just got this off BMS
"Play-Asia restricting PS3 sales Posted by Keith - Mon 10/30 2006 - 03:45 PM Loserbait writes: In the aftermath of Lik-Sang's demise, Play-Asia is no longer sending any PS3 orders to Europe." There's an article in the link. Looks like PA thinks they're next. rubixcuber |
Posts: 348/356 Not that I approve of what Sony did, but they aren't the only ones to sue Lik-Sang:
| http://www.gamesindustry.biz/content_page.php?section_name=ret&aid=1816 HyperHacker |
Posts: 3815/5072 Originally posted by neotransotaku I'm just saying if you've been sued, I think you could categorize the money lost to the other party as legal costs. Whether you'd be correct to do so is another question. PrincessPeach |
Posts: 277/381 Hmmm.. Incoherent things, the left hand does not know what the right hand does.
| Sony, if you will not learn now, you won't learn later. And I just hope that till March 2007, all European homes are fitted with Wiis and X360s. neotransotaku |
Posts: 1774/1860 Originally posted by HyperHackerI think legal costs are kept seperate from award amounts for civil cases. Anyways, Sony is now the new Microsoft after all this  HyperHacker |
Posts: 3809/5072 Argh... those f... a... I'm speechless. I can't think of a way to express just how much I'd like to go blow up Sony HQ right now.
| This is an interesting quote, though... "Lik-Sang did not contest this case (i.e. they did not turn up and therefore incurred no legal costs). We have been awarded substantial costs against Lik-Sang which have not been paid," If I read this right then they've been awarded some crazy amounts of money from Lik-Sang... I'd consider that legal costs. This is a long thread. Click here to view it. | | |||
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