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KTurbo
Posts: 135/164
Thank you, I made this one with it.
emcee
Posts: 633/867
Well, I finally finished the new version. On the surface it looks the same, but there are some major differences:

1. The color, border, font and image menus now work more like normal drop boxes. Click it to open it, choose an item or click somewhere else to close it. When you first close it you can still browse through the options using the up and down arrows on your keyboard, until you click somewhere else a second time.

2. The light blue boxes that contain options for configuring fonts and borders now open when you click on it and close when you click somewhere else.

3. On the output tab there is now a save button. The first time you click it after opening the page it will ask for a name for your layout, and then a password (do not use special characters). If this is the first time saving to that name it will set the password, to save over it you will have to enter the same password. Once it's been saved once it won't ask for a password until you leave and come back. You can also hit ctrl+alt+s to save. This way, the first time it will ask for a name and password, after that it will save to the last used name and password.

4. On the output tab there is now a load button. Click it and enter the name of a previously saved layout to load it into the editor. You do not need the password to load a layout.

5. On the output tab there is now a manual edit button. When you click it, if you haven't yet saved it ask you to do so, if you have it will ask if you want to save again or edit the last saved version, then it will open your layout in the manual editor. For this to work, you will have to allow pop-ups from puzzlebag.com. The manual editor is a separate editor that can be accessed directly here. Under Edit CSS, Edit Header, and Edit Signature is the code for the layout. You can manually edit it and see the changes by clicking where it says update in the upper right. After you get it looking like you want it you can click on output and copy the code from there into your profile. Don't copy the code from the edit tabs, the board will convert the line breaks into break tags and screw it up. You can also load other layouts into the manual editor that you saved in the main layout maker by clicking where it says load at the upper right.

6. The vertical sliders now line up even after you make the layout bigger.

7. I fix a bunch of little bugs.

This will be the last version aside from bug fixes.

Try it out.
Randy53215
Posts: 530/726
This is seriously an awesome feature you have created, very nice "program."

Now when people want layout they can go there.

Very big thumbs up.
emcee
Posts: 592/867
Originally posted by Dr_Death16
What property are you using for transparency effect? Opacity doesn't work in IE, so if that's your problem, you can blame Microsoft--my own layout uses it as well.


Opacity works fine on IE with filter:alpha(opacity=n). And it will show up in the preview on the layout maker, but not in your actual layout.

Edit: Ok, I found out that by taking out the space between the colon after the word filter and the word alpha, it keeps it from being blocked. So new layouts using transparencies will work, and if you already created one, just find where it says filter and remove the space after the colon.
Sonicandfails
Posts: 679/917
Well then, Opera users get an extra touch to my layout! Totally free!

Fun. I might be doing another layout soon, this one was just thrown together, and I got my Kirby idea worked out fairly well.
Tommathy
Posts: 295/339
Originally posted by SonicandFAILS
Hmmm...Tuna never said anything like that when he viewed it in Opera...

I'll look into it, but is it really a problem yet? (ie. Tables broken, stretching)


No, it doesn't break anything, and almost looks intentional until you really think about whether SonicandFAILS would have the design savy to offset his quoted text in such a way.
Dr_Death16
Posts: 530/970
Originally posted by emcee
Well this is kind of dumb. I remembered that I was having problems with transparencies on IE back when I was making my last layout. So I checked to make sure it was displaying right with layouts made with this and it wasn't. I tried everything I could think of to make them show up. Then, I viewed source on one. Turns out, for some reason the board is converting the word filter (followed by a colon) into x:, which messes it up.

What property are you using for transparency effect? Opacity doesn't work in IE, so if that's your problem, you can blame Microsoft--my own layout uses it as well.
emcee
Posts: 590/867
Well this is kind of dumb. I remembered that I was having problems with transparencies on IE back when I was making my last layout. So I checked to make sure it was displaying right with layouts made with this and it wasn't. I tried everything I could think of to make them show up. Then, I viewed source on one. Turns out, for some reason the board is converting the word filter (followed by a colon) into x:, which messes it up.
The Red Snifit
Posts: 637/739
Bad: Hard to work with
Good: It makes layouts pretty well.
I made this for fun, and now I use it. It's good for people who can't make layouts, or who isn't good at them. In short, This works well, but making it could be easier.
Sonicandfails
Posts: 675/917
Hmmm...Tuna never said anything like that when he viewed it in Opera...

I'll look into it, but is it really a problem yet? (ie. Tables broken, stretching)
Kattwah
Posts: 3058/3349
Originally posted by fabio
I like this as well. I agree with Dr_Death16 about not having to worry about breaking tables with this. That's why I haven't had an actual layout until now because I don't know CSS that well.


You could have just ASKED me you know

Anyways, I clap for the existence of this. Mainly for the fact that now we wont have people going "OMG HALP WHAT IS LAYOUT?"
Tommathy
Posts: 294/339
Here's how SF's layout renders in Opera
Sonicandfails
Posts: 671/917
The interface was fine! Be quiet you fools!
I made this pretty easily, and it looks great!

I will definetly use this again in the future in case I want to change it again (I've been thinking of a Kirby Super Star one).
Boom.dk
Posts: 303/356
Well, apart from the totally annoying interface, this is a really nice thingy. Good job! *thumbs up*
emcee
Posts: 589/867
Thanks for the feedback.

Nebetsu: You're right about the menus being annoying, having them automatically pop open when you mouseover and close when you mouseout seemed like a good idea in my head, but in practice it's just kind of frustrating. If I have time tommorrow I'll change them so there's something you click to open and close them.



Dr_Death16: I was thinking of something similar to that, where the code could be manually edit while using it. The only problem is as soon as you make a change with one of the menu options you would lose any manual changes you made. There's probably a way around this, though, it would just take some work. Or maybe, I could just put a link on the output panel to a seperate app for editing the code



Anyway, I just fixed a little bug in it where the "Originally Posted By" text is bigger in the preview than it is in your actual layout.



I'm thinking of adding a save feature, since it should be pretty easy to implement.

fabio
Posts: 1933/2415
I like this as well. I agree with Dr_Death16 about not having to worry about breaking tables with this. That's why I haven't had an actual layout until now because I don't know CSS that well.
Dr_Death16
Posts: 510/970
Emcee- this is a pretty genius idea IMO. If this thread were stickied somewhere or more high-profile, it'd help noobs and veterans alike to create layouts. New people usually end up screwing around with the html and creating horrific things they call layouts that break tables or etc., and this would help cut down on this by combating ignorance. Again, brilliant.
Heck, if you made it even a little more featured it could be better--something like Uly perhaps suggested, inputting raw code and seeing results with the ability to change it bit-by-bit. However, I can see your limitations in this regard and it would merely be a luxury if such a thing were done.
Nebetsu
Posts: 321/356
I actually quite like this. I made the background a few days ago when I was screwing around with GIMP. I think I'm keeping this as my normal background and I don't think I'll be doing it the normal way again! ^^

EDIT: Though: I don't know if it's firefox or your thing, but the menus are a little annoying to use.
emcee
Posts: 588/867
That looks pretty cool. Glad to see I'm not the only one whose tried using it.
Nebetsu
Posts: 317/356
Here's an interesting test with it. Like it?
This is a long thread. Click here to view it.
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