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HyperHacker
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There are other filenames like that in Windows NT-based systems, such as $UpCase. (They all start with a dollar sign, and I think it only works in the root of the drive.) It'll tell you the file already exists but you can never see it listed or open it; in reality it does exist but because it's so important it's hidden by the filesystem driver.

I've also seen those fake scanners that claim you have viruses and then (despite claiming to be free) ask for some huge amount of money to remove them.

What's even worse is anti-virus programs that cause more problems than the viruses themselves. Ahem, Norton.
Sonicandfails
Posts: 614/917
"Hey everyone, listen up, your attention if you please. Thought I would give you a warning cause I found out this morning of a dangorous, insideous computer virus. If you should get any mail with the subject "Stinky Cheese"....
....it will translate your documents into Swahili, make your TV record Gili, nutuer your pets, and give your laundry static cling! Look out!"

Thought of Weird Al first thing when I read this.
It's so stupid Who would make an email about a fake virus? It's so pointless...
Deleted User
Posts: 130/-7750
Originally posted by Doritokiller
That is true, however... It just gives me a feeling that they might've deserved it.


You're basically saying that ignorance should be punished? I thought that's what learning is for...

And about the other thing, yes. I once went to a site that allowed you to make a free scan of your system, everything looked so real and profesional, with technical explanations and spify graphics, so I said, why not?

And then it was like: "4 Virus found, asdf.exe.vrz - Trojan.downloader" or something like that, and I was like " I have 4 visuses and I have to install your software to get rid of them? Yeah right..."

I went on research and found out that site was blacklisted somewhere, and I made a full scan on my system, and found nothing malicious (besides "grabbing cookies").

So yeah, be careful with the hoaxes...
Doritokiller
Posts: 360/369
That is true, however... It just gives me a feeling that they might've deserved it. It isn't rocket science. I mean, if someone who doesn't know computers goes to WINDOWS or system32, they'd find it hidden, since they both contain vital files. If a computer illiterate knows that they shouldn't mess around with files they're not sure of, and only one source has informed them about this, things would be a bit undecided.

Just for a bit of an addition to idiotic hoaxes... I once had a tray icon, alternating between the green handicapped icon for Accessibility, and some other icon I don't remember. Anyways, it would periodically (about every 20 minutes or so) tell me that my computer is infected, and should immediately buy some crappy, unknown antivirus software. Norton couldn't get rid of it, Ad-Aware couldn't get rid of it, and Spybot couldn't get rid of it. I got on Google, and found a thing called HijackThis. After 4 days of assistance, I finally got rid of the damned thing.

It's always funny (and a bit ironic) that something malicious tells you that you have a virus, and need to buy/download something, which gives you even more viruses.
Deleted User
Posts: 127/-7750
Well, yeah, the mail would go to the thrash without even being read, but there's always a n00b or 2 around that would fall for it, and that would've read my message. I was trying to make a generic message, like "If you find taskmgr.exe running on the background, you're infected!"... :o
Doritokiller
Posts: 359/369
Originally posted by Uly
It may need a few tweaks for optimun kickage, but I'm posting it so you don't fall for something like that...

... Most people here won't even get close to almost falling for that. Ask yourself: "Would someone actually take their time to warn an anonymous user about a virus?"

Most of the time, no. But whatever. It doesn't hurt to try to help, I guess.
Deleted User
Posts: 124/-7750
Well, the most harmful hoaxes are like this:

"There's a very dangerous virus that will activate on (Insert next week's date here) and will delete all your files. To check if you're infected try saving any kind of file (txt, bmp, rtf, etc.) with the name 'Con', if it doesn't let you save it (because it says reserved to a dispositive or something) you are infected."

Actually that happens on all computers v_v' and then it would continue with:

"This virus cannot be deleted by any antivirus to date, you have to do it yourself. Go to (Insert path here), and delete the file (Insert important system file here)."

It must be a file that damages the system but still allows the user to fordward the message.

"Please check if you can save files with the name 'Con' on other computers and forward this mail to all your friends."

I just made that up, but I'm pretty sure it would work as a destructive hoax, people check that they cannot save a file with the name "Con", go bananas and delete everything you tell them.

It may need a few tweaks for optimun kickage, but I'm posting it so you don't fall for something like that...
Dwedit
Posts: 77/116
Originally posted by HyperHacker

The boot sector is sector #0. Nobody I know calls it Zero Sector though. That sounds more like a level in a video game than a computer term.
And yes, that sector holds the boot code and partition table, so if it's deleted, your computer might find booting up difficult and the drive will appear to be empty. It's pretty easy to recover from though.



Sector 0 is the master boot record (MBR), not the boot sector. The MBR contains the partition table, which tells where all the partitions begin, and each partition contains a boot sector.

On some types of disks (like compactflash or SD cards), the MBR is omitted and the first sector is actually indeed the boot sector. This means those types of media can only support one partition. Sometimes a camera will format a card to include an MBR though.

Both the MBR and boot sector are important. The MBR says where all the partitions are, and if it gets wiped out, you lose all drives, but you can still slowly search the hard drive for possible boot sectors, and restore the partition table from there. The boot sector contains information about the parameters of the filesystem, and links to the root directory. If that gets wiped out, it's harder to guess what the old content was before, unless it was using the default parameters, and the root directory may be findable.
Ailure
Posts: 1862/2602
Tarale, you probably came up with the solution for thoose mails. Next time I get one of thoose, I do what Tarale said. Sometimes you can find a whole backlog of e-mail addresses in thoose mails.

Or maybe I should try spreading one of thoose hoaxes, with a rude message in it.
Tarale
Posts: 2132/2713
Originally posted by Danielle
Yeah, my brother still insists it's real.

sdfldkfjdkjgf I'm going to lose my mind D:


Well, that's when you screw with his head and tell him that by forwarding on that email, he's already infected his Zero Sector, and that it is only a matter of time before his computer will crash.

Thankfully, you know the solution (but it's very very complex) and you'll fix it for [insert monetary reward or other reward here]

Danielle
Posts: 5999/6737
Yeah, my brother still insists it's real.

sdfldkfjdkjgf I'm going to lose my mind D:
Cynthia
Posts: 4561/5814
You'd think that in 2006, people wouldn't be falling for this stuff.

10 years down the line, we're still going to see this crap.
HyperHacker
Posts: 3378/5072
Originally posted by Ailure
Might be someone who confused boot sector with zero sector or something. If the boot sector fails on a HD, it won't simple boot but usually the data can be saved.

...I seen grownups sending thoose around, it's usually the computer illiterate.

The boot sector is sector #0. Nobody I know calls it Zero Sector though. That sounds more like a level in a video game than a computer term.
And yes, that sector holds the boot code and partition table, so if it's deleted, your computer might find booting up difficult and the drive will appear to be empty. It's pretty easy to recover from though.

Also, I have my email configured to pipe all messages beginning with "Fw:" or "Fwd:" to the trash.
Alastor
Posts: 7443/8204
Oh, the viruses are hoaxes? I opened the described things on my other computer and I was worried that that my hard drive had a hole burned in it with a torch and that my zero sector was deleted and that all my vital information was gone. Whew, I sure dodged a bullet there.
Ailure
Posts: 1853/2602
Might be someone who confused boot sector with zero sector or something. If the boot sector fails on a HD, it won't simple boot but usually the data can be saved.

...I seen grownups sending thoose around, it's usually the computer illiterate.
fabio
Posts: 1821/2415
Whenever I see forwarded emails like this, I usually delete them without reading it.

Forwarded junk mail usually annoy me, especially when you get a junk email saying that you should forward this mail to 10 different friends in X minutes or else you'll be cursed for life. I've gotten several of those types of junk emails and I don't feel cursed at all.
Darkdata
Posts: 642/983
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>LIKE OH MY GOSH
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>THERE WAS THIS THING
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>AND IT DOES SOMETHING
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>AND IT EATS YOU
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>FLASH ANIMATION HERE
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>50 PICTURES
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>YAHOO MAIL ADD
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>LIKEOMG SIMENASD

Yeah it's not fun.

Also OH NOES it must also attack the tubes! (someone was going to say it )
Dr_Death16
Posts: 385/970
I think I got an email like this from an idiot friend. I opened it like usual, noticed it was a forward and deleted it after the first few lines. I missed out on valuable entertainment.

I need help finding my Zero Sector of my C drive... I've never seen vital information before.
Tarale
Posts: 2129/2713
I just love the wording of it. Things like the "Zero Sector" which is apparently "where the vital information is kept".

And things that "burn" your "whole hard disc C"

And other pseudo-computer terms

Throw in a few "respectable" names like McAfee, Microsoft and CNN.... (note you'll not find any information about this at McAfee, Microsoft or CNN.... ) and you seem to have the makings of a great piece of scaremongering that will make IT analysts laugh, and everyone else forward like crazy

ridiculous
Danielle
Posts: 5980/6737
HEY I JUST GOT THIS EMAIL A FEW DAYS AGO~

...And proceeded to call my brother on the phone and tell him he's a freaking idiot for believing it.
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