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| HyperHacker Posts: 3255/5072 |
The GBA doesn't have any native 3D hardware, but has scaling and rotation of backgrounds and sprites. It's also ~4x as fast as the SNES and has twice as much RAM, and the carts can be much bigger, so software 3D is slightly more feasible than it was on SNES.
The Triforce in LTTP would consist of maybe 24 triangles, with no textures, lighting, hit detection etc, so I think a stock SNES could probably pull it off if it weren't too busy. | ||||||||||||||||||||
| Robin Posts: 8/11 |
The spinning Triforce at the start of Link to the Past is a proper 3D model, is it not?
Pretty sure that Hyrule Magic can even edit that baby. | ||||||||||||||||||||
| Blue Warrior Posts: 148/356 |
Beats me. I'm just kinda asking if there's a chip in the GBA that's similar to the SNES's FX function.  | ||||||||||||||||||||
| Deleted User Posts: 36/-7750 |
Would it be possible for a GBA game to have a FX Chip and have the same effect? | ||||||||||||||||||||
| Blue Warrior Posts: 146/356 |
Originally posted by ibz10g The Gameboy Color obviously can't do so, but I would think the GBA is at least capable of performing a similar operation, although I'm not sure. I'm certain it has an engine similar to the SNES's Mode 7, but as for a piece of code that mirror's the FX chip, I don't know, as I don't recall a single GBA game playing like that. | ||||||||||||||||||||
| ibz10g Posts: 54/588 |
I suppose, but this thread should have been pretty much over. Looking at starfox, I guess the Snes could (poorly) create 3D models, but it doesn't seem as though the gameboy could. | ||||||||||||||||||||
| HyperHacker Posts: 3250/5072 |
I think the GBA graphics system was at least inspired by the SNES, but other than that there's no real relation among any. They just use the best hardware they have that can make a decently powerful, reasonably priced handheld. | ||||||||||||||||||||
| Blue Warrior Posts: 142/356 |
Originally posted by ibz10g Although they can be compared, I can't say they're based off of each other, especially the DS (touch screen isn't screaming, "N64!!!"). Same could be said for GBA; not only did it have a different screen resolution, but was also 32-bit and had a better sound card (thus more compatibility of voices, as well as... "better" sounding music, although I'm unsure if that's the correct word). Plus, all those handhelds you mentioned are going to be superior to the systems you compared them to, because they were made at a later time period, thus more technology, more ram, and more ideas. | ||||||||||||||||||||
| NSNick Posts: 1535/2228 |
The SNES didn't do it by itself, Star Fox had the FX chip in it. | ||||||||||||||||||||
| ibz10g Posts: 48/588 |
Did the Snes do it, or was it the game? | ||||||||||||||||||||
| The Red Snifit Posts: 611/739 |
Originally posted by ibz10g So... I guess you guys aren't counting Star Fox.  (Even if it was just bad polygons)HyperHacker |
Posts: 3238/5072 Pretty sure GBC is far more powerful than NES. It had much more RAM and ~4 to 8 times the CPU speed, and a second background layer (which unfortunately was quite useless due to its lack of transparency). | ibz10g |
Posts: 47/588 maybe, I've never played it that much. I mean, aside from touch screen... you know, with SM64DS and all... oh, I give up.Alastor |
Posts: 7309/8204 But... No. The DS isn't even close to based on the N64. | ibz10g |
Posts: 46/588 I suppose, but those are essientially what they're based off of. | Alastor |
Posts: 7308/8204 Originally posted by ibz10gThe DS is much stronger than the N64, though... GBA > SNES, too... Not sure about GBC, though. HyperHacker |
Posts: 3236/5072 They draw the track in a top-down view in mode 7, then use HDMA (I think) to fake a 3D perspective by distorting the layer into a trapezoid. Throw in some backgrounds on other layers, sprites designed to look like 3D models, and voila, pseudo-3D. F-Zero did this too. | ibz10g |
Posts: 45/588 I looked into it and well, I guess it could have in theory, but the thing had modes 0-7. None of them were capable of rendering a true 3D structure, though 7 did create quite an illusion. Technology hadn't quite advanced to that point, I guess, which gives me another thought. Was the Gamboy Advanced based solely on the Snes?
| Looking at it this way, I can't believe I didn't see it before. Gameboy Color->NES GBA->SNES Nintendo DS->N64 Does this mean that they'll release a handheld equivelant to the Gamecube next? EDIT: ^n00b reply^ MathOnNapkins |
Posts: 778/1106 Originally posted by ibz10g It could, it would just be really slow. Later systems had hardware acceleration that was built to handle 3D models. The snes would have had to do it all in software which takes a lot more time and it has a slow cpu to begin with. Cynthia |
Posts: 4386/5814 Mode 7. That's the only way they could do that. | This is a long thread. Click here to view it. | | ||||
